Anti-Trump ‘Republican’ Group to Run Pro-Impeachment Ads in Target States

[truth_seeker]

@Applewood

Yeah,that must be why he is appointing conservative justices to federal courts,and putting up a border wall and deporting illegal aliens,huh?

Two SC justices, and about 1180 other judges.

When I cite "scatterbrain, I mean this type of non-sensical BS.

[Applewood]

@Applewood

Yeah,that must be why he is appointing conservative justices to federal courts,and putting up a border wall and deporting illegal aliens,huh?

@sneakypete

1.  Conservative judges. Maybe.  John Roberts was sold to us as a conservative and we found out differently.  Is anyone keeping track of these judges and justices to see if they are really conservative?

2. Border Wall.  Totally useless and a waste of money, especially since this country is still letting in illegals.

3.  Deporting Illegals.  And before long, they're back.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

1.  Conservative judges. Maybe.  John Roberts was sold to us as a conservative and we found out differently.  Is anyone keeping track of these judges and justices to see if they are really conservative?

2. Border Wall.  Totally useless and a waste of money, especially since this country is still letting in illegals.

3.  Deporting Illegals.  And before long, they're back.

@Applewood

Roberts was part of the Boy Jorge Homosexual Mafia. Don't blame Trump for that.

As for the rest of it,you need to change your screen name to "Negative Nelly". "Applewood" just seems too cheerful,and you are the least cheerful poster I know of.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

The Democrats have done to Impeachment, what Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize did,   rendered it meaningless.

Incorrect.

Impeachment is the ONLY mechanism to remove a president by the Senate.  Unless the House impeaches, the Senate can do nothing.

Think about that when we have a GOP House and a Democrat Senate.

[txradioguy]

As if the Tom Styer and Michael Bloomberg ads every commercial break weren't bad enough...

[IsailedawayfromFR]

@Chosen Daughter

People forget that Trump was at one time a Democrat. His fans say he has evolved over the years, but I'm not so sure.  The family leave thing, his willingness to go along with measures that would deny a rightful owner of his firearms without due process, his willingness to violate the Constitution to go after media that say things about him he doesn't like and of course, those spending spree bills he has signed -- do not point to a guy who has entirely given up his New York liberal Democrat roots.. 

To rectify these inconsistencies, Trump followers have decided to redefine conservativism as Trump, all things he says and does and anyone who worships him.  True conservatives who have rejected Trump are now called closet Democrats/liberals. traitors, enemies of the state and worse.  It's funny that the same people who complained (rightly) about Obama's obvious liberal/socialist policies are now ok when Trump does the same or similar.  What Trump says or does, which often is close to what Obama said and did, is now accepted as "conservative."

That means exactly what?

Here in Texas at one time about everyone elected to office was also a Democrat.  Do you really want to diss our entire state from what we used to be?

How about Reagan?  Are your really placing the same brand on him as well that he cannot be trusted as he was once a Democrat?

The mantra should better follow whether his current words and actions follow conservative principles rather than what happened in the past.

[DCPatriot]

Kristol needs to be like me.  Put the digust about Trump comments and actions aside, and realize that a POTUS Warren is looming in 2021.  That's the real enemy.

@roamer_1

At this point, not conceding any ground pushes 'Stubborn' to the limit.   It becomes a psychosis.

Giving you full credit for being able to understand Bill Kristol's POV/approach of President Trump.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

@Chosen Daughter

People forget that Trump was at one time a Democrat.  His fans say he has evolved over the years, but I'm not so sure.  The family leave thing, his willingness to go along with measures that would deny a rightful owner of his firearms without due process, his willingness to violate the Constitution to go after media that say things about him he doesn't like and of course, those spending spree bills he has signed -- do not point to a guy who has entirely given up his New York liberal Democrat roots..

To rectify these inconsistencies, Trump followers have decided to redefine conservativism as Trump, all things he says and does and anyone who worships him. True conservatives who have rejected Trump are now called closet Democrats/liberals. traitors, enemies of the state and worse.  It's funny that the same people who complained (rightly) about Obama's obvious liberal/socialist policies are now ok when Trump does the same or similar.  What Trump says or does, which often is close to what Obama said and did, is now accepted as "conservative."

Thank you.  That is the truth.  They love their liberal.

Another thing has been the prison reform. 

Yes, the ‘prison reform’ bill lets out high-risk inmates and sex offenders
Daniel Horowitz · December 4, 2018   

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/yes-the-prison-reform-bill-lets-out-high-risk-inmates-and-sex-offenders/

Exclusive–Conservative Leaders Ask Trump to Oppose Prison Reform Bill: ‘It’s Prison Release’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/11/exclusive-conservative-leaders-ask-trump-to-oppose-prison-reform-bill-its-prison-release/

Who would have thought that Kim Kardashian would be the star of Republicans for letting violent prisoners out early?

You believe Trump is worshipped by his followers?

More than half of America support him.

What you are saying is beyond idiocy.

What type of religion do you believe someone has who supports Trump?  Idol worship?

Why are you so blatantly antagonist against anyone who supports the guy?  Particularly since you espouse a supposedly religious frame of mind in your ramblings.

And why do you not instead recognize people are ALL flawed?  Including you and me.

Pray for him instead so we can retain his good qualities and improve on his weak ones.

Unless you simply say as you are a Christian he is not worth saving at all?

@Chosen Daughter

[Fishrrman]

Applewood wrote:
"Sorry guys, but I am not going to vote for Trump period."

Then, a simple question:
What are you doing in this forum?

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

At this point, not conceding any ground pushes 'Stubborn' to the limit.   It becomes a psychosis.

Giving you full credit for being able to understand Bill Kristol's POV/approach of President Trump.

@DCPatriot

You're kidding right?
Come talk to me when at least you can show smaller government and federalism... Till then there ain't no difference between all y'all and Warren, but for a difference in where to put the deck chairs.

[skeeter]

@DCPatriot
Till then there ain't no difference between all y'all and Warren, but for a difference in where to put the deck chairs.

You are entitled to your opinion here, but I feel compelled to tell you its complete bullsh*t.

You don't like Trump, got it.

Telling those with whom you disagree they are no different than Warren is needlessly provocative and just plain dumb.

[roamer_1]

You are entitled to your opinion here, but I feel compelled to tell you its complete bullsh*t.

You don't like Trump, got it.

Telling those with whom you disagree they are no different than Warren is needlessly provocative and just plain dumb.

No it isn't bullsh*t. It's the bloody truth.
I don't give a sh*t about Tump (which is different).
And I meant exactly what I said.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

You are entitled to your opinion here, but I feel compelled to tell you its complete bullsh*t.

You don't like Trump, got it.

Telling those with whom you disagree they are no different than Warren is needlessly provocative and just plain dumb.

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot

You're kidding right?
Come talk to me when at least you can show smaller government and federalism... Till then there ain't no difference between all y'all and Warren, but for a difference in where to put the deck chairs.

@roamer_1

No, my friend.  I'm not kidding.  You are totally FOS at this point regarding anything political.

You and a couple of others are my comedic relief.   Happy New Year!   

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

No, my friend.  I'm not kidding.  You are totally FOS at this point regarding anything political.

You and a couple of others are my comedic relief.   Happy New Year!   

@DCPatriot
Fear. At this point y'all will sanction anything... And do.

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot
Fear. At this point y'all will sanction anything... And do.

Not at all.  That's what the Left sells.

Back to my point: 

It's impossible today, to have any serious discussion with anyone on a Conservative political forum who believes there's no difference between Pres. Trump's GOP and 'THEM'!

Why waste my time?    At this point, given your intellect, it screams "TROLL". 

But to read that you really believe that sh*t??   

 

[roamer_1]

Not at all.  That's what the Left sells.

Back to my point: 

It's impossible today, to have any serious discussion with anyone on a Conservative political forum who believes there's no difference between Pres. Trump's GOP and 'THEM'!

Why waste my time?    At this point, given your intellect, it screams "TROLL". 

But to read that you really believe that sh*t??   

 

@DCPatriot

There IS no difference. No matter which, you get HUGE government costing trillions upon trillions of dollars that we do not have. Either one you get centralized government with unlimited power... The only argument is in who is doing big government better.

I have no interest in that argument. And no dog in this hunt.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Not at all.  That's what the Left sells.

Back to my point: 

It's impossible today, to have any serious discussion with anyone on a Conservative political forum who believes there's no difference between Pres. Trump's GOP and 'THEM'!

Why waste my time?    At this point, given your intellect, it screams "TROLL". 

But to read that you really believe that sh*t??   

 

Otherwise rational people are sometimes blinded by a single obsession.

Having said that, it is indeed of interest to have a forum available like this wherein one can at least try to understand differences among conservatives of different stripes.

I refuse to dial into liberal websites to try to understand libs.  It would make me throw up.

[roamer_1]

Otherwise rational people are sometimes blinded by a single obsession.

If that was pointed at me @IsailedawayfromFR , I have no singular obsession... I have done nothing here other than defense of Conservatism. I am still exactly where I have always been.

If anyone has become obsessed, it is those who cater to Tumpism.
It has become only about Tump, 24/7, and has nothing to do with Conservatism anymore (not that it ever did).

[DCPatriot]

If that was pointed at me @IsailedawayfromFR , I have no singular obsession... I have done nothing here other than defense of Conservatism. I am still exactly where I have always been.

If anyone has become obsessed, it is those who cater to Tumpism.
It has become only about Tump, 24/7, and has nothing to do with Conservatism anymore (not that it ever did).

@roamer_1

'Screw' you, my friend!

Who the hell are you?  You ain't a High Priest/Prophet from the Montana mountaintop, are you?

No!!  You're a stubborn bore!

We have to live in the REAL world.  Not some fantasy bullshit 'Utopia' you dream about in your cabin.

As the saying goes, "Lead, Follow...or GTF out of the way!"

Fact is, Donald Trump could simply 'threaten' to not run for reelection and by the end of the week,
the market will lose every effing penny his policies gifted America the past 3 years.

Krugman could actually say, "I told you so!"

....just the very THREAT.

THAT'S the real world, 'Montana'.

[Mesaclone]

There IS no difference.

@roamer_1

If you actually believe that, you've entirely lost touch with reality.

Let me give you just one, rather obvious, difference and see if we can build from there. President Hillary would have appointed two hard core Leftist Supreme's by now rather than Gorsuch and Kavanaugh...shifting the Supreme Court to a solid liberal majority. Further, and possibly worse, at the District and Appeals level we'd be looking at DEEP lib majorities in most courts...a huge boon to liberal causes and absolutely gutting any hope for an originalist and pro-Bill of Rights court.

So how is that not a "difference"?

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

'Screw' you, my friend!

Who the hell are you?  You ain't a High Priest/Prophet from the Montana mountaintop, are you?

No!!  You're a stubborn bore!

We have to live in the REAL world.  Not some fantasy bullshit 'Utopia' you dream about in your cabin.

As the saying goes, "Lead, Follow...or GTF out of the way!"

Fact is, Donald Trump could simply 'threaten' to not run for reelection and by the end of the week,
the market will lose every effing penny his policies gifted America the past 3 years.

Krugman could actually say, "I told you so!"

....just the very THREAT.

THAT'S the real world, 'Montana'.

Likewise @DCPatriot .
There is no utopia in defending Conservatism rather than Tump. Or even in defending Conservatism AGAINST Tump.

And your reply is knee-jerk, and typical. Point at anything except Conservatism, anything at all to justify setting aside every_singe_thing we (here) purport to defend and support. Always the same: Nevermind Conservatism and your stupid principles, because [mealy mouthed and/or fear based excuse here]!!!! Except in caps.

The fact of the matter remains the same:

I will never support this administration for the principles of social conservatism alone.
I will never support this administration for the principles of fiscal conservatism alone.
I will never support this administration for the principles of civil-libertarianism alone.
I will never support this administration for the principles of defense and foreign policy alone.

Add those all together, and you should understand 'OH HELL NO!!!'

That is neither utopian, nor should it be surprising. There is NOTHING conservative about this administration.

Candy thrown by the clown at the front of the parade, and poo-throwing at democrats is an emotional feel-good strategy with ~zero~ meat.

MEH. Defend him on the principles or STFU.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

If you actually believe that, you've entirely lost touch with reality.

Let me give you just one, rather obvious, difference and see if we can build from there. President Hillary would have appointed two hard core Leftist Supreme's by now rather than Gorsuch and Kavanaugh...shifting the Supreme Court to a solid liberal majority. Further, and possibly worse, at the District and Appeals level we'd be looking at DEEP lib majorities in most courts...a huge boon to liberal causes and absolutely gutting any hope for an originalist and pro-Bill of Rights court.

So how is that not a "difference"?

@Mesaclone
Because to date it is unproven. I will not succumb to the largely propaganda laced declarations of a Conservative court.

Show me the money.

Credit when it's due, but not before it's due.
No more paying forward on promises that are always vaporware.

[Mesaclone]

Because to date it is unproven. I will not succumb to the largely propaganda laced declarations of a Conservative court.

Show me the money.

Credit when it's due, but not before it's due.
No more paying forward on promises that are always vaporware.

That's a nonsensical reply. The courts rule almost daily on issues critical to conservatism...are you arguing that having less conservatives and far more liberals does not impact the types of rulings the courts make?  Not only is it proven that the types of judges appointed is of tremendous impact on how the constitution is interpreted, its legitimately inarguable to anyone sane.

So, again, how is that not a difference?

[roamer_1]

That's a nonsensical reply. The courts rule almost daily on issues critical to conservatism...are you arguing that having less conservatives and far more liberals does not impact the types of rulings the courts make?

@Mesaclone
It is not nonsensical - The very same claims were made through 8 years of Bush.
Bupkis.