Anti-Trump ‘Republican’ Group to Run Pro-Impeachment Ads in Target States

[sneakypete]

@Hoodat
@sneakypete

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol (emphasis added)

The Congress for Cultural Freedom:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_for_Cultural_Freedom  (emphasis added)

@Applewood

Your red slip is showing.

[sneakypete]

Nowhere is anything saying Bill Kristol is a communist.

@Chosen Daughter

*I* am saying he was and is a communist. He pretends to be conservative because that was the covert role he chose to further the cause,while making himself rich so he would be influential in Republican Politics. EVERYONE loved the idea of a Jewish intellectual who "saw the light,renounced communism, and became a conservative". A "OUR Jewish intellectual can whip YOUR Jewish intellectual" thing.

  I believe his father made a turn after the war.

You mean when Communism lost it's charm with most Americans,and the Cold War began? Gee,I wonder why he switched sides?

The elder Kristol made no secret of his youthful flirtations with socialism.

"Socialism"???? No "spin" there,is there?

Like many neoconservatives, he was a college Trotskyite who lurched radically rightward after World War II.

A conversion of convenience. The neocons did everything they could do to harm conservatism and cause the Dim left to take control and swing the country left.

 

By 1982, he was universally acknowledged as a chief engine of right-wing thought in American politics and one of the minds behind the Reagan Revolution.

Or so the story goes,anyway.

Which is why it's so curious that, according to FBI documents obtained by Gawker under the Freedom of Information Act, he was the subject of a five-month FBI counterintelligence investigation in 1988.

Not so curious.

The FBI heavily redacted the documents—citing national security in many instances—so it's difficult to make out exactly what happened. But it seems fairly clear that, sometime around May of 1988, the FBI's counterintelligence division came to possess a notebook or address book belonging to a suspected Soviet agent. And Irving Kristol's name was in it. That launched a five-month investigation into Kristol's background, including criminal record checks, interviews with "assets" at the school where he taught, and eventually an interview with Kristol himself, conducted under a "pretext" so as to avoid letting him know the true nature of the investigation. This despite the fact that Kristol had already been subjected to an FBI background check in 1972, when he was considered for a job in the Nixon White House, and came up clean.

Thanks to the influence of Bill Kristol and other fellow travelers with influence.

And since we want to talk about Communists how about Melania's Communist card carrying parents.  Who also are regulars at White House events and often travel with the Donald and Melania.

Go ahead. Talk about them.

[Applewood]

@Applewood

Your red slip is showing.

@sneakypete

What the hell are you talking about?  Did you even bother to read what I posted?  Do you even know how to read?  Or do you only read what confirms your fantasies? 

Bottom line is you are wrong about the elder Mr. Kristol and have no proof of your allegations against Bill Kristol.   You just hurl accusations and expect everyone to believe them as truth. 

Sorry, my friend, but I worked for attorneys too long to believe your nonsense absent real proof.  And it looks like all you are posting is bovine excrement.

[catfish1957]

Kristol needs to be like me.  Put the digust about Trump comments and actions aside, and realize that a POTUS Warren is looming in 2021.  That's the real enemy.

[libertybele]

Kristol needs to be like me.  Put the digust about Trump comments and actions aside, and realize that a POTUS Warren is looming in 2021.  That's the real enemy.

A lot of people need to get over their anti-Trump sentiment (IMHO a lot of that is unfounded) and realize that a POTUS Warren, Biden or Buttgig is looming in 2021.  Yes, they are the real enemy.

President Trump is not the enemy -- take a look at the economy, the progress along the border, the re-alliance with Israel, building up of our military, and above all his patriotism is on full display!   

[Applewood]

@libertybele
@catfish1957

Sorry guys, but I am not going to vote for Trump period.  in my view he is not an improvement over those idiots on the Democrat side.  Our economy is still shaky, we are still being invaded by illegals and alleged refugees, his supposedly conservative judicial appointees are still a question mark and he did not keep his other campaign promises.  He spends much of his time whining and insulting people on Twitter,  on the road doing his rock star tour, living it up at one of his resorts or traveling ostensibly to meet with world leaders with nothing to show for it.  His presidency is one big reality tv show. Constant drama and controversy, but little to no real work.  Overall, as president, he is a failure.  And I will not vote for a guy who didn't do his job for four years so he can have another four years to screw around. 

So many think we need to keep him because the alternative -- rabid socialist/commie democrats -- is so bad.  Well, if the senate falls to the Democrats, you can be sure they will pass Medicare for All and every other socialist/communist BS they are touting.  And Trump has shown he will sign everything put in front of him; so you can be sure he will sign these bills too.  So tell me how having him in the White House with a Democrat-controlled congress will be an improvement.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

What the hell are you talking about?  Did you even bother to read what I posted?  Do you even know how to read?  Or do you only read what confirms your fantasies? 

Bottom line is you are wrong about the elder Mr. Kristol and have no proof of your allegations against Bill Kristol.

@Applewood

You just keep telling yourself that,Comrade.

 

You just hurl accusations and expect everyone to believe them as truth. 

Not true. You,for example,wouldn't recognize a truth if it bit you on the ass.

Sorry, my friend, but I worked for attorneys too long to believe your nonsense absent real proof. 

ROFLMAO! Thank you for proving my point. We ALL know how honest and trustworthy attorneys are,don't we?

[sneakypete]

..... a POTUS Warren is looming in 2021.  That's the real enemy.

@catfish1957

WHO is shouting "Bring in the clowns"? That woman should be in  a State Farm for Fools somewhere,not on a campaign trail.

[sneakypete]

A lot of people need to get over their anti-Trump sentiment (IMHO a lot of that is unfounded) and realize that a POTUS Warren, Biden or Buttgig is looming in 2021.  Yes, they are the real enemy.

President Trump is not the enemy -- take a look at the economy, the progress along the border, the re-alliance with Israel, building up of our military, and above all his patriotism is on full display!   

@libertybele

The NT's don't care anything about that. All the ones who aren't Dims pretending to be Republicans are mad that Trump "stole" the election from Jebbie or one of their other favorite RINO's,and they are never going to get over it.

[sneakypete]

@libertybele
@catfish1957

Sorry guys, but I am not going to vote for Trump period. 

@Applewood

Ok,you have that right,and I never once suspected you were going to vote for him anyway.

[aligncare]

@libertybele

The AT's don't care anything about that. All the ones who aren't Dims pretending to be Republicans are mad that Trump "stole" the election from Jebbie or one of their other favorite RINO's,and they are never going to get over it.

@sneakypete

My friend, you must get the terminology straight around here.

AT= always Trumper (that’s me) and NT= neverTrumper (that’s maybe a dozen posting members).

But, I’m a big fan of yours, so carry on!

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

My friend, you must get the terminology straight around here.

AT= always Trumper (that’s me) and NT= neverTrumper (that’s maybe a dozen posting members).

But, I’m a big fan of yours, so carry on!

@aligncare

Thank you for pointing that out to me. I have already edited that post to correct it.

Although truthfully,I don't understand the Always Trumpers either. Somebody is right or wrong based on what they do or say,not on who they are.

Damn chemo-brain!

[Chosen Daughter]

@libertybele
@catfish1957

Sorry guys, but I am not going to vote for Trump period.  in my view he is not an improvement over those idiots on the Democrat side.  Our economy is still shaky, we are still being invaded by illegals and alleged refugees, his supposedly conservative judicial appointees are still a question mark and he did not keep his other campaign promises.  He spends much of his time whining and insulting people on Twitter,  on the road doing his rock star tour, living it up at one of his resorts or traveling ostensibly to meet with world leaders with nothing to show for it.  His presidency is one big reality tv show. Constant drama and controversy, but little to no real work.  Overall, as president, he is a failure.  And I will not vote for a guy who didn't do his job for four years so he can have another four years to screw around. 

So many think we need to keep him because the alternative -- rabid socialist/commie democrats -- is so bad.  Well, if the senate falls to the Democrats, you can be sure they will pass Medicare for All and every other socialist/communist BS they are touting.  And Trump has shown he will sign everything put in front of him; so you can be sure he will sign these bills too.  So tell me how having him in the White House with a Democrat-controlled congress will be an improvement.

Good post.

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump announced an "18th wave" of judicial appointments last week, among them Patrick J. Bumatay, a federal prosecutor who is the second openly gay person Trump has nominated to become a federal judge, according to the Washington Blade.
Patrick Bumatay: Trump's second openly gay nominee to be …


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/10/17/patrick-bumatay-trump-judicial-nominee/1668092002/

Conservatives used to realize what the gay agenda was doing to this country.

And this Administration is nothing but a personality cult.

[Applewood]

@sneakypete

Not true. You, for example, wouldn't recognize a truth if it bit you on the ass.

I would if you made a statement supported by factual evidence.  But since you have no proof for your claims, then what you post is not truth, but BS.

ROFLMAO! Thank you for proving my point. We ALL know how honest and trustworthy attorneys are, don't we?

Having worked for attorneys for 35 years and still keep in touch with a few, I do know honest and trustworthy attorneys.  You, on the other hand, judge the whole profession by the likes of Michael Cohen, Michael Aenatti, Gloria Allred and the other shysters you see on tv.   I'm reasonably sure that your profession has had some bad apples.  All of them do. Would you like it if I judged your profession as unsavory based on the few lousy ones?

[Hoodat]

Understood. It is just I'm guessing (admittedly, quessing) that most Americans believe that if Bolton, Giuliani, Mick, Rick, and the Mikey P's could exonerate Trump,

Exonerate him from what?  Let's at least come up with a credible case for a charge first before tossing out the 'exoneration' word.

It makes zero sense that he would allow himself to go down in history as an impeached president for the sake of preserving executive privilege if he could have presented evidence to prevent such from occurring (and, as a bonus, humiliate the Democrats).

Trump has zero control over what the House does.  If they wish to pursue an impeachment with zero evidence and zero witnesses, then there is nothing he can do to stop them.  Trump simply doesn't care what they think or do.  And it is this that infuriates them the most.  He refuses to allow them to hold him to a standard which they themselves do not follow.

[dfwgator]

Exonerate him from what?  Let's at least come up with a credible case for a charge first before tossing out the 'exoneration' word.


Trump has zero control over what the House does.  If they wish to pursue an impeachment with zero evidence and zero witnesses, then there is nothing he can do to stop them.  Trump simply doesn't care what they think or do.  And it is this that infuriates them the most.  He refuses to allow them to hold him to a standard which they themselves do not follow.

The Democrats have done to Impeachment, what Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize did,   rendered it meaningless.

[Applewood]

@Chosen Daughter

People forget that Trump was at one time a Democrat.  His fans say he has evolved over the years, but I'm not so sure.  The family leave thing, his willingness to go along with measures that would deny a rightful owner of his firearms without due process, his willingness to violate the Constitution to go after media that say things about him he doesn't like and of course, those spending spree bills he has signed -- do not point to a guy who has entirely given up his New York liberal Democrat roots.. 

To rectify these inconsistencies, Trump followers have decided to redefine conservativism as Trump, all things he says and does and anyone who worships him.  True conservatives who have rejected Trump are now called closet Democrats/liberals. traitors, enemies of the state and worse.  It's funny that the same people who complained (rightly) about Obama's obvious liberal/socialist policies are now ok when Trump does the same or similar.  What Trump says or does, which often is close to what Obama said and did, is now accepted as "conservative." 

[Chosen Daughter]

@Chosen Daughter

People forget that Trump was at one time a Democrat.  His fans say he has evolved over the years, but I'm not so sure.  The family leave thing, his willingness to go along with measures that would deny a rightful owner of his firearms without due process, his willingness to violate the Constitution to go after media that say things about him he doesn't like and of course, those spending spree bills he has signed -- do not point to a guy who has entirely given up his New York liberal Democrat roots.. 

To rectify these inconsistencies, Trump followers have decided to redefine conservativism as Trump, all things he says and does and anyone who worships him.  True conservatives who have rejected Trump are now called closet Democrats/liberals. traitors, enemies of the state and worse.  It's funny that the same people who complained (rightly) about Obama's obvious liberal/socialist policies are now ok when Trump does the same or similar.  What Trump says or does, which often is close to what Obama said and did, is now accepted as "conservative."

Thank you.  That is the truth.  They love their liberal.

Another thing has been the prison reform. 

Yes, the ‘prison reform’ bill lets out high-risk inmates and sex offenders
Daniel Horowitz · December 4, 2018   

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/yes-the-prison-reform-bill-lets-out-high-risk-inmates-and-sex-offenders/

Exclusive–Conservative Leaders Ask Trump to Oppose Prison Reform Bill: ‘It’s Prison Release’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/11/exclusive-conservative-leaders-ask-trump-to-oppose-prison-reform-bill-its-prison-release/

Who would have thought that Kim Kardashian would be the star of Republicans for letting violent prisoners out early?

[Applewood]

Thank you.  That is the truth.  They love their liberal.

Another thing has been the prison reform. 
...

Trump signed off on it, so of course, it's ok.

[truth_seeker]

Kim Kardasian's husband is doing something instead of scatterbrained negativity day and night, 24/7

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sunday+services

Here is just one of the many "Sunday Service" gatherings that Kanye put together, in SLC.

I realize that both Kanye's religion,, and the SLC religion, aren't good enuff for a certain types.

As a common sense conservative, I believe Kanye may be doing MORE for conservatism, than the scatterbrain BS which typifies many days and nights'threads here.


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[sneakypete]

The Democrats have done to Impeachment, what Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize did,   rendered it meaningless.

@dfwgator

As much as it pains me to defend Obomber,The Nobel Peace Prize became a Leftist Participation Trophy long before Obomber got into politics.

They gave it to him as well as a cash award,and he would have been a fool to turn it down. Especially since he had no idea what it was for,and in HIS alleged mind,he may have even earned it.

[sneakypete]

@Chosen Daughter

People forget that Trump was at one time a Democrat. 

@Applewood 

He was a registered Dim because he was living and working in NYC,and he needed to get his permits approved in this lifetime.

[truth_seeker]

People forget that Trump was at one time a Democrat. 

So was Reagan, so it means nothing, zip, nada.

[Applewood]

@sneakypete
@truth_seeker

I was a Democrat too in my younger years.  But I grew up and became a conservative Republican.  .

My point -- since both of you apparently missed it -- is that I don't trust Trump's alleged conversion to conservatism.  He has shown, by the examples @Chosen Daughter and I gave, that he still holds onto his New York liberal roots.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete
@truth_seeker

I was a Democrat too in my younger years.  But I grew up and became a conservative Republican.  .

My point -- since both of you apparently missed it -- is that I don't trust Trump's alleged conversion to conservatism.  He has shown, by the examples @Chosen Daughter and I gave, that he still holds onto his New York liberal roots.

@Applewood

Yeah,that must be why he is appointing conservative justices to federal courts,and putting up a border wall and deporting illegal aliens,huh?