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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2019, 03:05:32 pm »
If the house votes for impeachment, and it moves to the Senate for the Trial, they can-and should-subpoena Hunter Biden and the Whistle blower.

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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2019, 03:47:54 pm »
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The AT's are like petulant children. They can't have EVERYTHING they want and WHO they want,so they have hissy-fits and would rather have nothing at all than have to accept someone they don't approve of that would get them 75 percent of it. So they vote against and attack the "75 percent guy" to "punish all those Party Traitors that voted for the outsider guy and kept my favorite RINO from losing to the Dim candidate."

I added "genuinely" because the hatred is at least somewhat rational if you don't actually support the policies. When someone criticizes the efforts and ignores the positives it gives me a strong suspicion that their hatred of Trump is little more than an extension of their hatred for conservative principles in general.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2019, 03:53:34 pm »
If the house votes for impeachment, and it moves to the Senate for the Trial, they can-and should-subpoena Hunter Biden and the Whistle blower.

Yes, they should.  It will be interesting to see if the Senate does their due diligence under the direction of Roberts.  I have my doubts.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2019, 05:12:28 pm »
If the house votes for impeachment, and it moves to the Senate for the Trial, they can-and should-subpoena Hunter Biden and the Whistle blower.

Would pay $ to seem both Bidens squirm with a RICO dagger hanging above the witness chair.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2019, 08:14:12 pm »
Yes, the debt has risen, but unemployment is at historic lows; people are back to work and the use of food stamps has dramatically declined.

Hillary may not be locked up and the corruption that existed within the DOJ still exists, however that corruption is not Trump's creation and if you think she is healthy enough and has enough stamina to run, you're dreaming, not to mention that the deadlines that she must meet to run are narrowing.

The USCMA is in the hands of Congress, I anticipate that the House led majority under Pelosi will sink it. 

As for the wall, you are absolutely correct, it is not built 100% by any means, though finally 'new' wall is being put in place in spite of obstruction by Nancy and Chucky.

Portions of Bammycare have been dismantled.

Is the swamp worse then ever, or has Trump exposed how deep it really is?

The GOP is losing power?  Last time I checked they had a full majority under the leadership of Lyin' Ryan and they blew it.  They had a full majority when Bammy was president and they blew it. Trump didn't elect Ryan, nor McConnell.

IMHO our standing in the world is far better now than under Bammy.  At least Trump doesn't apologize for our country, quite the opposite; American Pride!

I am by far a Trump supporter, but I believe he needs to be given credit for trying to head this country in a better direction and standing up to the leftist bat crap crazies. He's shown tenacity, patriotism and leadership.  He is not perfect, has some rough edges for sure, but he IS what is standing between us and the liberal leftists who want to lead us into socialism.

I shutter to think of a President Warren, Buttgig, Biden, etc.  Have you taken a look at what they are proposing?

No one on the GOP side who could do better than Trump has come forward to run against him.  No one.  So ... here we sit.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2019, 04:20:12 am »
I agree with Ted they need to get them both to testify.  And Trump should ask the questions.  That would be a real great show.  We have to get something out of all this.
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2019, 04:37:40 am »
I agree with Ted they need to get them both to testify.  And Trump should ask the questions.  That would be a real great show.  We have to get something out of all this.

I think and hope that the bulk of he population understands that Trump bended a few ethics rules to try to root out what may be the most  corrupt politico operations in our lifetime.  I knew the Bidens were crooks, but the tip of this iceberg has to be hiding might what be a behemoth of a scandal.
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2019, 06:02:51 pm »
@Snarknado

The AT's are like petulant children. They can't have EVERYTHING they want and WHO they want,so they have hissy-fits and would rather have nothing at all than have to accept someone they don't approve of that would get them 75 percent of it. So they vote against and attack the "75 percent guy" to "punish all those Party Traitors that voted for the outsider guy and kept my favorite RINO from losing to the Dim candidate."

It's disappointing to see conservatives who at this point still don't support Trump.

I was in that Ben Shapiro camp that didn't believe Trump was a conservative and did not like his personality. After 3 years it's hard to argue with his performance. He has done what he said he would do and even though he has been under constant attack he has not wavered and has pushed ahead. I have contributed to his campaign and will vote for him in 2020.

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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2019, 06:43:27 pm »
You guys have your own facts @Right_in_Virginia says the Mueller Report was not about Russian interference.  @sneakypete thinks the impeachment is about Biden.

Good grief you sound like a severely confused guy.  I pray you don't travel without a responsible adult.

Please, for your own sake don't try to speak for me @Once-Ler  This is simply not in your wheelhouse.


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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2019, 06:47:41 pm »
You guys have your own facts @Right_in_Virginia says the Mueller Report was not about Russian interference.  @sneakypete thinks the impeachment is about Biden.

I constantly question if my vehemently anti-Trump opinions turn people off to my message.  I know they do, but I have decided that you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink.  I decided facts don't care about feelings. 

Do you ever question if you have any credibility outside of your own bubble, or if you make the Trump GOP look worse with each sycophantic post? 


In truth, the nutjob Always Trumps who cannot have an intellectually honest conversation about his failings are just as deficient as you are with your never ending carping

I hear you think you have been winning for 3 years but IMO we have a $23 Trillion debt. 
Agree.   He should’ve never signed those budgets.  But on the flip side he has ALLEGEDLY slashed a whole of regulations which may have some positive fiscal benefit.   But... AGREE

Obamacare is law. 

In truth, I think the man did about all he could possibly do on this front.  The Republicans in Congress had no interest in repealing that Obamination...they are part of the swamp too

Hillary is SO NOT locked up she thinks she might run again. 
The wheels of justice grind slowly...I’d say the jury is still out here.  This is a swamp issue too.

No wall built, Mexico didn't pay for it.
Despite massive wailing and gnashing of teeth...and every legal trick known to man...progress and fundng is happening.

 Swamp is worse than ever. 
Vehemently disagree.   The first part of destroying the swamp is EXPOSING the swamp...any fair minded intellectually honest person can see that is happening...DAILY

Our standing in the world deteriorates. 
Heres a hint for you:   That swamp we all rail about?  It’s international.  The “standing” you’re so worried about is in the eyes of Swamp dwellers like Merkel, Macron, Trudeau et al.  No loss. The average guy and gal in the Western world?  I think we’re doing just fine there

No China deal. 
We are still engaged with a trade war brought on by Trumps tariffs...we are winning that war and bring some semblance to a system that has been horrifically anti-American for decades.   Screw a bunch of China deal

No USMCA. 

hard to have a deal when one body in our system of government won’t bring it for a vote.   Could he squawk some more about it?  Sure.

The GOP is losing power nationally and statewide since 2016, and Americans hate each other. 
Agree.   Not real sure how you’re putting this in his court.   How is it his fault that half of our countrymen are either morons or Communist


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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2019, 06:53:13 pm »
It's disappointing to see conservatives who at this point still don't support Trump.

I was in that Ben Shapiro camp that didn't believe Trump was a conservative and did not like his personality. After 3 years it's hard to argue with his performance. He has done what he said he would do and even though he has been under constant attack he has not wavered and has pushed ahead. I have contributed to his campaign and will vote for him in 2020.

Even early on I had trouble believing anyone who voted against Trump could seriously call themselves conservatives. In fact it was those very people such as Susan Wright who drove me away from Redstate and eventually to TBR. If there are any genuine conservatives left who still decry Trump's election, I'd love to hear all the ways they think we'd be better off today under Clinton.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2019, 07:39:41 pm »
Even early on I had trouble believing anyone who voted against Trump could seriously call themselves conservatives. In fact it was those very people such as Susan Wright who drove me away from Redstate and eventually to TBR. If there are any genuine conservatives left who still decry Trump's election, I'd love to hear all the ways they think we'd be better off today under Clinton.

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One big part of the problem is there are so many small-minded people who hear the word "conservative",and automatically think "Republican". It just ain't so. Most of the rank and file Republicans of the last few decades were people who liked to lay down in the middle of the road so they wouldn't offend anyone,and so maybe they could get cut into the deals being made.

If you want change in America,laws have to be changed. If you want laws changed,you are going to have to start electing "outsiders" to public office because the people who have betrayed their oaths for cash and other considerations are going to keep on doing what they have been doing,and they are going to fight any changes in the system that might cost THEM money or power.

You are NOT going to get change by electing the same people over and over. The system,like ALL systems,is set up to protect itself. To change it,you MUST elect people who haven't spent decades profiting and benefiting from the existing conditions you want changed.

Trump is not somebody I would want for a friend. Or even a casual acquaintance I would have to socialize with. To put it plainer,I don't like his personality.

Then again,I don't vote for people because I want to marry them. I vote for people who I think will do the things that need to be done,and in my entire lifetime if you want to list those people,there are only two who had the desire to make change and the intention. Goldwater and Trump.

I wasn't even going to vote for a Presidential candidate last time,but changed my mind and decided to vote for Trump the night before the election. It turned out to be one of my better decisions.
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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2019, 08:34:40 pm »
@Snarknado

One big part of the problem is there are so many small-minded people who hear the word "conservative",and automatically think "Republican". It just ain't so. Most of the rank and file Republicans of the last few decades were people who liked to lay down in the middle of the road so they wouldn't offend anyone,and so maybe they could get cut into the deals being made.

If you want change in America,laws have to be changed. If you want laws changed,you are going to have to start electing "outsiders" to public office because the people who have betrayed their oaths for cash and other considerations are going to keep on doing what they have been doing,and they are going to fight any changes in the system that might cost THEM money or power.

You are NOT going to get change by electing the same people over and over. The system,like ALL systems,is set up to protect itself. To change it,you MUST elect people who haven't spent decades profiting and benefiting from the existing conditions you want changed.

Trump is not somebody I would want for a friend. Or even a casual acquaintance I would have to socialize with. To put it plainer,I don't like his personality.

Then again,I don't vote for people because I want to marry them. I vote for people who I think will do the things that need to be done,and in my entire lifetime if you want to list those people,there are only two who had the desire to make change and the intention. Goldwater and Trump.

I wasn't even going to vote for a Presidential candidate last time,but changed my mind and decided to vote for Trump the night before the election. It turned out to be one of my better decisions.

Unfortunately it almost always boils down to having no choice but to go with the lesser of two evils. Even when it's a worthless POS like McCain.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2019, 09:01:11 pm »
When we have the statement that conservatives do or do not like Trump, then we get into the argument of what is conservatism.
Judicial picks, deregulation, lower taxes, all solid conservative ideas, along with national defense (included in this, border security) the President gets solid marks,
Free trade? Deregulation is good, tariffs is still a wait and see, but it seems to be used more for leverage by the President, so far.
Big Government? Been a mixed bag. Obamacare is collapsing, but it hasn't gone away. Scary notions of Government subsidized family leave.


In this completely unscientific method of mine, I'd give him fairly high marks, 75-85%, 80-90%?
I'll take it.

I don't think anyone will ever be 100% to my liking, and that's okay.
That's life.

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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2019, 09:05:13 pm »
When we have the statement that conservatives do or do not like Trump, then we get into the argument of what is conservatism.
Judicial picks, deregulation, lower taxes, all solid conservative ideas, along with national defense (included in this, border security) the President gets solid marks,
Free trade? Deregulation is good, tariffs is still a wait and see, but it seems to be used more for leverage by the President, so far.
Big Government? Been a mixed bag. Obamacare is collapsing, but it hasn't gone away. Scary notions of Government subsidized family leave.


In this completely unscientific method of mine, I'd give him fairly high marks, 75-85%, 80-90%?
I'll take it.

I don't think anyone will ever be 100% to my liking, and that's okay.
That's life.

Carry on.

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« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2019, 09:18:49 pm »
When we have the statement that conservatives do or do not like Trump, then we get into the argument of what is conservatism.
Judicial picks, deregulation, lower taxes, all solid conservative ideas, along with national defense (included in this, border security) the President gets solid marks,
Free trade? Deregulation is good, tariffs is still a wait and see, but it seems to be used more for leverage by the President, so far.
Big Government? Been a mixed bag. Obamacare is collapsing, but it hasn't gone away. Scary notions of Government subsidized family leave.


In this completely unscientific method of mine, I'd give him fairly high marks, 75-85%, 80-90%?
I'll take it.

I don't think anyone will ever be 100% to my liking, and that's okay.
That's life.

Carry on.

Reagan was about as close as we've come, and he ballooned the debt, raised payroll taxes and made SS benefits taxable. GWB was a joke, but he did get worthwhile tax cuts that 0bama was mostly unable to undo, a pretty amazing accomplishment in itself.
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2019, 09:44:28 pm »
Reagan was about as close as we've come, and he ballooned the debt, raised payroll taxes and made SS benefits taxable. GWB was a joke, but he did get worthwhile tax cuts that 0bama was mostly unable to undo, a pretty amazing accomplishment in itself.

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Reagan was a good man,and that was the problem. He was too trusting. He signed off on the things you stated because the Dims promised him they would do things he wanted done. Surprising no one of today,they lied and didn't do what they had promised to do,leaving Reagan,and the nation,holding the bag.

One advantage Trump has over Reagan is that Trump grew up doing business in NYC,where you have to bribe everybody to do what they are already being paid to do. He knew this,and just added a percentage to his contract prices to cover the graft. Cost of doing business. He nor anyone else may have liked it,but you did it or you went out of business.

Once he was sworn in,HE was in the catbird's seat,and there was no more "doing business as usual" with the corrupt Dim and RINO politicians. THIS is why they hate him so much.
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2019, 11:10:06 pm »
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« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2019, 11:15:46 pm »
Unfortunately it almost always boils down to having no choice but to go with the lesser of two evils. Even when it's a worthless POS like McCain.

No.  I disagree.  I couldn't and didn't vote for McCain, nor did I vote for Bammy.  I voted 3rd party.  Some see it as a wasted voted.  I do now know how difficult and nearly impossible it is for a 3rd party to win.  Even at that, I still couldn't vote for someone who I was completely opposed to.

If it again gets to the point that I am completely opposed to either the DEM or GOP nominee, I will refrain from voting for the presidency and vote down ballot; but ONLY for those who I feel deserve their seat.
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« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2019, 11:57:45 pm »
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Thanx for your reply.  We disagree on everything.
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Fascinating...you disagree with me even on the things I agree with you.

 I guess all you’ve proven is that you are either just downright disagreeable (which I think I doubt) or you didn’t bother to actually read AND PROCESS OR CONSIDER anything I said.  I’m going with option 2.
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« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2019, 01:28:48 am »
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Fascinating...you disagree with me even on the things I agree with you.

 I guess all you’ve proven is that you are either just downright disagreeable (which I think I doubt) or you didn’t bother to actually read AND PROCESS OR CONSIDER anything I said.  I’m going with option 2.
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In truth, the nutjob Always Trumps who cannot have an intellectually honest conversation about his failings are just as deficient as you are with your never ending carping

I disagree.  Do I need to tell you why I disagree with your slur on my character?  And hey buddy, great beginning to your persuasive post.

But on the flip side he has ALLEGEDLY slashed a whole of regulations which may have some positive fiscal benefit.

I disagree.  Trump saying he slashed red tape is not the same as slashing red tape.  Let's look at the debt and deficit to find the savings...NOT IN EVIDENCE.

In truth, I think the man did about all he could possibly do on this front. 

I disagree.  I saw President Trump sit on his ass or go golfing while the GOP congress struggled to repeal Obamacare

The wheels of justice grind slowly...I’d say the jury is still out here.  This is a swamp issue too.


I disagree.  Hitlery will never be locked up and I think you actually know this...unless you go to the rally, look into President Trump's mesmerizing eyes and chant with the crowd. 

Despite massive wailing and gnashing of teeth...and every legal trick known to man...progress and fundng is happening.


I disagree and I'll reiterate not one single mile of new wall has been built since Trump got elected according to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection commissioner.  https://www.newsweek.com/cbp-no-new-border-wall-1472077

Vehemently disagree.   The first part of destroying the swamp is EXPOSING the swamp...any fair minded intellectually honest person can see that is happening...DAILY

I disagree.  People have complained about corruption in government for decades.  Trump perfected it.

Heres a hint for you:   That swamp we all rail about?  It’s international.  The “standing” you’re so worried about is in the eyes of Swamp dwellers like Merkel, Macron, Trudeau et al.  No loss. The average guy and gal in the Western world?  I think we’re doing just fine there

I disagree.  Not worth pointing out why.

We are still engaged with a trade war brought on by Trumps tariffs...we are winning that war and bring some semblance to a system that has been horrifically anti-American for decades.   Screw a bunch of China deal


I disagree.  Trump's trade impotence says "Screw the American consumer."   

hard to have a deal when one body in our system of government won’t bring it for a vote.   Could he squawk some more about it?  Sure.


I disagree.  Trump say he wrote a book on deals.  He sucks at it.

Agree.   Not real sure how you’re putting this in his court.   How is it his fault that half of our countrymen are either morons or Communist

I'm less than worried that the GOP is losing power nationally and statewide since 2016, but that is Trump's fault, and American's hate each other more than they did before Trump so I blame him for that too.

happy?

I'm gonna go back to hating on the President.  You may continue to whine about me if you want, but I've answered your points.
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« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2019, 03:25:06 am »
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Ok!  I was wrong...you are just a disagreeable lout.  My bad.

Side note:  please feel free to show me where I challenged your CHARACTER.  I made no such reference to character. 
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« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2019, 03:55:20 am »
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Ok!  I was wrong...you are just a disagreeable lout.  My bad.

Side note:  please feel free to show me where I challenged your CHARACTER.  I made no such reference to character.
OK @Axeslinger .  I quoted you, but let's try again.

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the nutjob Always Trumps who cannot have an intellectually honest conversation about his failings are just as deficient as you are with your never ending carping

Any clearer or is that just me being disagreeable?  That's a legitimate question because you sound like my wife, pastor, therapist, parole officer, and both my friends.[/ inappropriate punch line]

I'm sorry we don't see the same reality.  I appreciate you being intellectually honest with me, and I don't doubt you sincerely believe that you are, but I might a lost cause.  Thank you for your reply, and so many well thought out excuses for the President's failures.