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Libertarians relish spoiler role in Kentucky governor’s race as Bevin trails
By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News

    Kentucky’s Libertarian Party appears to be relishing its role as a potential spoiler in the state’s gubernatorial contest – as incumbent Republican Gov. Matt Bevin trails the state's Democratic attorney general in the results of the closely watched contest Tuesday.

"We are always happy to split the vote in a way that causes delicious tears. Tonight there are plenty of delicious tears from Bevin supporters," the party said in a Facebook post Tuesday night.


In the contest, Democratic state attorney general Andy Beshear leads Bevin by 5,333 votes out of more than 1.4 million cast, with 100 percent of precincts reporting in the Kentucky election.

Libertarian gubernatorial nominee John Hicks grabbed 28,426 votes – or approximately 2 percent of the vote – far more than the vote difference between Beshear and Bevin.

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Assholes.  Why they would torpedo a Congervative Governor for their own selfish purposes is beyond me...especially since it opens the door for a Corruptacrat like Andy Beshear.

Their joy may still be all for naught however.
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Called it.

When the libertarians took over the Iowa GOP at the state convention a few years back, the only thing they cared about was destroying Republicans.

They were absolutely toothless in their opposition to Dems, if they expressed any at all. They were happy to give the state over to full socialism over petty sleights and catty backbiting.

It's pretty much why I hate them with a passion now.
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Called it.

When the libertarians took over the Iowa GOP at the state convention a few years back, the only thing they cared about was destroying Republicans.

They were absolutely toothless in their opposition to Dems, if they expressed any at all. They were happy to give the state over to full socialism over petty sleights and catty backbiting.

It's pretty much why I hate them with a passion now.

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And that is why I refer to them most times as Liberal-tarians.  They are far more aligned in their way of doing things and policies with the Progressive Democrats than they are with Conservatives.

My hatred for them is as passionate as yours.
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Libertarians are some of the most useless humans of the political soup.

One step above "pacifists" (the lowest of the low).

But not by much.

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And that is why I refer to them most times as Liberal-tarians.  They are far more aligned in their way of doing things and policies with the Progressive Democrats than they are with Conservatives.

My hatred for them is as passionate as yours.

And yet, on another thread, you repeatedly accused them of "stealing" votes from the R's.  As if Bevin would have won if a Libertarian had not ran, because all of their votes would have gone to the Republican.

If "They are far more aligned in their way of doing things and policies with the Progressive Democrats than they are with Conservatives.", then they peal votes from the Dem, not the Rep. 

Can't have it both ways.
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And yet, on another thread, you repeatedly accused them of "stealing" votes from the R's.  As if Bevin would have won if a Libertarian had not ran, because all of their votes would have gone to the Republican.

If "They are far more aligned in their way of doing things and policies with the Progressive Democrats than they are with Conservatives.", then they peal votes from the Dem, not the Rep. 

Can't have it both ways.

They did steal votes from Bevin and who won wouldn’t have been an issue had they not purposely set out to sabotage the GOP candidate for no other reason that to throw a political tantrum.

Not trying to have it both ways. Just accurately describing the general mindset and philosophy of the Libertarian party.
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They did steal votes from Bevin and who won wouldn’t have been an issue had they not purposely set out to sabotage the GOP candidate for no other reason that to throw a political tantrum.

Not trying to have it both ways. Just accurately describing the general mindset and philosophy of the Libertarian party.

Which votes did they "steal"?  And how?
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Which votes did they "steal"?  And how?

You clearly didn't read their post I quoted above did you?
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Will anyone investigate?
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Will anyone investigate?

I wonder if that's some of the "irregularities" Bevin mentioned yesterday?
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Will anyone investigate?


I think this is a fake. This account has been suspended.
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You clearly didn't read their post I quoted above did you?

I sure don't see a post anywhere on this thread that explains how any votes were "stolen".

Normally, when people talk about Libertarians "stealing" votes, they mean that by a L candidate running they syphoned off votes from the R, as if the R's had some right to expect those votes in the first place.

But that doesn't make sense here, as from what you've said about the Ls they're more likely to have syphoned off votes from the D.
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I think this is a fake. This account has been suspended.

Yes, the account has been suspended but that does not make the content fake necessarily.  This should be thoroughly investigate IMHO.
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Yes, the account has been suspended but that does not make the content fake necessarily.  This should be thoroughly investigate IMHO.


It should just to make sure.
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The problems I have with the Libertarians is how they lie and lie.

1. They claim we have been a isolationist country from the begining. They are wrong. The only time we where truly isolationist was in the 1930s..
2. They claim that Lincoln was a third party candidate. He wasn't
3. They claim to be a true third party, but they also go after the GOP 99% of the time. Sometime they go after the Dems. Like .01% of the time
4. They are not a serious party.
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I say good on em.

Everybody saying they are poaching Republican votes can suck it... Because the customer is always right.

If you want to stop Libertarians, then return to the civil-libertarianism of Conservatism to bring em back in the tent. Don't expect them to vote for something they don't want and worse than that, act like you own them votes.

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I say good on em.

Everybody saying they are poaching Republican votes can suck it... Because the customer is always right.

If you want to stop Libertarians, then return to the civil-libertarianism of Conservatism to bring em back in the tent. Don't expect them to vote for something they don't want and worse than that, act like you own them votes.

Yep.  Most, probably all,  Ls I know would be perfectly happy to vote R, if they'd just run Conservatives.  They'd still have some policy disagreements, but they're smart enough to know an electable solid Conservative is the best they're going to get, and if we don't bring some sanity to our gov't those Conservative/Libertarian differences will be irrelevant anyway.
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I say good on em.

Everybody saying they are poaching Republican votes can suck it... Because the customer is always right.

Which customer would that be?

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The voter.

So Donald Trump's voters were right?




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Yep.  Most, probably all,  Ls I know would be perfectly happy to vote R, if they'd just run Conservatives.  They'd still have some policy disagreements, but they're smart enough to know an electable solid Conservative is the best they're going to get, and if we don't bring some sanity to our gov't those Conservative/Libertarian differences will be irrelevant anyway.

That's right... There is nothing for civil libertarians or for fiscal conservatives in the Republican party. They've been thrown under the bus more than any. No wonder they are looking elsewhere.

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So Donald Trump's voters were right?

Yep. No denying it.
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