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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #75 on: October 29, 2019, 07:07:15 pm »
No, if you still worship polls you haven't learned a thing and the sand is in your nostrils, not ours.  If you don't like the Forum, then find one more to your liking.

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This is supposed to be a discussion group,not a circle-jerk.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #76 on: October 29, 2019, 07:10:11 pm »
Never believe the right either. That is the lesson y'all have yet to learn.

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WHAT "Right"?????

All we have had my entire damn life is globalist-corporate employees passing themselves off as the opposition,when the truth is they have FAR more in common with the outright communists of the left than they do to freedom-loving conservatives.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #77 on: October 29, 2019, 07:14:48 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

BAD Cyber,BAD! NEVER tell anyone to find another forum. We NEED dissenting voices to sharpen our arguments and to keep from getting over-confident.

This is supposed to be a discussion group,not a circle-jerk.

Touche.  What you say there has stayed my hand a few times.  But, that said, I really get tired of people who insult the Forum, as a whole.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #78 on: October 29, 2019, 07:26:06 pm »
Nor is it a bad thing if a conservative "American First Party" emerges from the ashes of the "Dim Lite GOP" of today.

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I don't care a whit for 'America First' nonsense.
America can compete like anyone else. I will happily prefer a 'Made in USA' label where it's earned.

But a constitutional and conservative party - yep.

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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #79 on: October 29, 2019, 07:28:53 pm »
@roamer_1

WHAT "Right"?????

All we have had my entire damn life is globalist-corporate employees passing themselves off as the opposition,when the truth is they have FAR more in common with the outright communists of the left than they do to freedom-loving conservatives.

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YEP. I was referring to the so-called right. To include Brightfart and Conservative Outhouse.

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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #80 on: October 29, 2019, 07:30:29 pm »
I did not support Trump in 2016.   But I support the rights of the 63 million who did. 

You may be right that saving the GOP from itself may well be a lost cause.   What I advocate is a two-pronged approach -  strong support for the President in his battle against impeachment by the mob of kangaroos,  and the clear-eyed realization that Trump's legacy, and the GOP's ultimate survival in the face of the socialist threat, requires him to not run for re-election so the demons can be confronted head-on without distraction.   

 
And who among them will do that confronting?

The very agencies which are supposed to investigate wrongdoing in our government are ridiculously corrupt, those who are supposed to prosecute are ignoring the most egregious violations of not only law, but National Security, on so many levels while looking for a millimeter sized dust kitten to raise hell about, all on a partisan basis.

While I did not vote for Trump (I voted Constitution Party), I AM a believer that those who have sworn solemn oaths to uphold the Constitution and do their jobs should be held to their oaths, or should find a more suitable line of work. Surely there are stables which need cleaning somewhere.

However, by drawing fire, President Trump has enticed the Democrats to expose the virulent, rabid, foaming at the mouth partisanship that was formerly less evident to those who are not political junkies, the overwhelming bias of the Mainstream Media to any who will see, and the endemic multilevel corruption in agencies throughout government, and internationally, a sepsis which wreaks havoc on the proper functioning of those agencies.

It may not seem evident, but there is some culling of the ranks going on, although the progress is less evident in the form of indictments, arrests, and convictions, than I would like to see. Some very high profile people who have displayed patent disregard for the laws of, and this country, itself, remain at large, while investigations seem to be only permitting the location of potentially damaging evidence and witnesses, intel which can be (and likely is being) used to destroy that evidence and silence those witnesses. Those who are not made into examples will likely heed those who are, and nothing less than a complete sweep will be adequate to ensure the safety of those who remain.

Could this have been ripped open, at least among those not mesmerized by the snake charmers of the MSM, without the bombast and rancor present in today's political discourse? Perhaps not, or not so effectively.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #81 on: October 29, 2019, 07:33:07 pm »
Touche.  What you say there has stayed my hand a few times.  But, that said, I really get tired of people who insult the Forum, as a whole.

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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #82 on: October 29, 2019, 07:33:45 pm »
Never believe the right either. That is the lesson y'all have yet to learn.
True enough!

Look what the CONgress did for us while they had a POTUS who would have signed what his predecessor would have vetoed!
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #83 on: October 29, 2019, 07:38:27 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Not me. I never go off the handle on anyone.

Well,maybe once or twice.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #84 on: October 29, 2019, 07:40:39 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Not me. I never go off the handle on anyone.

Well,maybe once or twice.

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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2019, 07:47:43 pm »
@Jazzhead

That's GOOD news if an actual GOP replaces the self-serving globalist bastards that have controlled the party since Ike took over. What we had prior to "The Trump Surprise" was essentially a One Party system with two incestuous branches.

So you're voting for the Dem to ensure creative destruction?   
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #86 on: October 29, 2019, 07:51:33 pm »
True enough!

Look what the CONgress did for us while they had a POTUS who would have signed what his predecessor would have vetoed!

That's right. I am done with lip service.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #87 on: October 29, 2019, 07:57:13 pm »
No, if you still worship polls you haven't learned a thing and the sand is in your nostrils, not ours.  If you don't like the Forum, then find one more to your liking.

When did I suggest I didn't like the Forum, CL?  Don't 10,000-plus posts count for something?   

(I was simply surprised that, in reviewing the hundreds of available emojis,  I didn't spot one to express the concept of willful ignorance (e.g., a camel with its head in the sand).   I was making a suggestion, not a complaint.  And by the way,  how does my willingness to consider the possible message provided by dozens of similar polls equate to your charge of "sand in my nostrils"?  Doesn't that apply more readily to your blanket dismissal of polls as media driven, notwithstanding they all basically provide the same bad news about how the President is perceived?)
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #88 on: October 29, 2019, 08:01:22 pm »
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@roamer_1

I guess you want to come in last in every competition,and bet on losing horses,too?
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #89 on: October 29, 2019, 08:07:20 pm »



@roamer_1

I guess you want to come in last in every competition,and bet on losing horses,too?

@sneakypete

Nope... both of those examples require merit.
And I am very merit based.

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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2019, 08:11:15 pm »
And who among them will do that confronting?

 

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Well,JEB ain't doing anything. Granted,he ain't the man he was when his mama was cracking the whip,but he is a known name that won't rock any boats,and him running would have the RINO Party Peopple all getting orgasmic.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #91 on: October 29, 2019, 08:14:08 pm »

Well,JEB ain't doing anything. Granted,he ain't the man he was when his mama was cracking the whip,but he is a known name that won't rock any boats,and him running would have the RINO Party Peopple all getting orgasmic.

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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #92 on: October 29, 2019, 08:18:07 pm »
So you're voting for the Dem to ensure creative destruction?

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What kind of twisted mind do you have to come to that conclusion? If I wanted that,I would have voted for one of the usual suspects,not Trump. I voted for Trump BECAUSE I was hoping he would take office and blow up the good old boy/business as usual corrupt system in place.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #93 on: October 29, 2019, 08:26:36 pm »
@Jazzhead

What kind of twisted mind do you have to come to that conclusion? If I wanted that,I would have voted for one of the usual suspects,not Trump. I voted for Trump BECAUSE I was hoping he would take office and blow up the good old boy/business as usual corrupt system in place.

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You'd do better with a 'Throw the bastards out' mentality, which I would happily join you in.
Stackin all your chips on one man changing any damn thing that big is an exercise in futility.
As is being proven daily.

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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #94 on: October 29, 2019, 08:50:48 pm »
I agree, and in more normal times the Carville adage of "it's the economy, stupid" would prevail.   But the frenzied media isn't talking about the economy, or even the Administration's triumph in killing that animal al-Baghdadi.   It is Trump hatred, 24/7. 

I wish it weren't so.   I wish we could run on the economy,  immigration and disengagement from Mideast tribal conflicts.   But the media is drowning out those discussions and demanding the election be a referendum on Trump the alleged madman.   And in the meantime,  with the media running interference, the Dems are prepared to nominate a socialist and elect him or her as the voters are distracted.    It makes no sense that Trump's poll numbers should be as low as they are given his policy successes.   But we live in the world as it is, not as it we wish it to be.   

I am merely being realistic in the face of the onslaught.   We need to both defend the President and urge him that his bid for re-election will jeopardize all the good that he's done. 

Politics is a team game.   Trump has driven down the court, but is blocked at the basket.   He needs to pass the ball to a teammate who can make the winning shot.   

1. Trump voters largely ignore the biased media.

2. Polls wrong in 2016.

3. Scott Adams predicted Trump's 2016 win.

4. Bradley effect, counts for Trump voters' inadccurate polling.

5. Adams predicts Trump wins handily, in 2020.

6. Zogby and some others predict Trump will win in 2020.

The "Regular" media is bering replaced by "new media."

Matt Gaetz has agreed to appear on Adam' podcast.

Kanye West is an example of a black "influencer," that will mean votes.

Have YOU looked at polls, for Hispanic and black Trump voters?


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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #95 on: October 29, 2019, 08:58:39 pm »
True enough!

Look what the CONgress did for us while they had a POTUS who would have signed what his predecessor would have vetoed!

There is but one party in Congress.  I'll name it the "Preserve the Swamp and Fleece the People party."
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #96 on: October 29, 2019, 09:02:45 pm »
Christophe Hahn is a ridiculous shill.

I agree. I have learned a lot about THE LEFT! SO SAD. There really is something mental going on.
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #97 on: October 29, 2019, 09:10:46 pm »
I hate this guy..he is on all the time..I mute him and Maria Harf another imbecile from O'Bama's State Dept


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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2019, 10:18:15 pm »
When did I suggest I didn't like the Forum, CL?  Don't 10,000-plus posts count for something?   

(I was simply surprised that, in reviewing the hundreds of available emojis,  I didn't spot one to express the concept of willful ignorance (e.g., a camel with its head in the sand).   I was making a suggestion, not a complaint.  And by the way,  how does my willingness to consider the possible message provided by dozens of similar polls equate to your charge of "sand in my nostrils"?  Doesn't that apply more readily to your blanket dismissal of polls as media driven, notwithstanding they all basically provide the same bad news about how the President is perceived?)

My fault, really.  I misread you, and I was being a shit.  I really do like your comments, they make me think.   :beer:

(I simply don't believe political opinion polls done by the media.  There are polling companies who do polls for really good reasons ("Would you be more or less likely to buy a hamburger if it came in a pink wrapper?"), but the media, being biased, does polls to move public opinion, not measure it.   :shrug:)
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Re: Fox News contributor: 'Most likely' outcome is Trump doesn't run in 2020
« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2019, 10:37:33 pm »
@sneakypete
You'd do better with a 'Throw the bastards out' mentality, which I would happily join you in.
Stackin all your chips on one man changing any damn thing that big is an exercise in futility.
 

@roamer_1

You are NEVER going to win a horse race if you keep betting on horses that aren't running.

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As is being proven daily.

Horse Hillary! Name ONE US President in the last 100 years that has advanced the cause of freedom and promoted America like Trump.

You can bet your bippy that raghead leader would still be alive and still be raping and murdering Americans if Boy Jorge,Bubba Bill,or Bathhouse Barry were still in the Oval Office.

You are an adult,yet you seem to be so confused you think it is necessary to identify with or even like a candidate before you vote for them. This is the real world,not some imaginary construct where you are going to get everything you want in one package. Even Santa doesn't deliver like that to children.

Then again,maybe I am wrong. Who did you support and vote for,and why?
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