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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2019, 11:55:58 pm »
Something tells me the generator business is going to be booming.

I'm way ahead of 'em. Plus enough gas laid up to run it for a week.


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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2019, 12:07:43 am »

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, left, tours a home destroyed by the Kincade fire on Friday. Newsom
declared a state of emergency Friday as wildfires scorch both ends of the state from Sonoma to Los Angeles

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2019, 12:08:27 am »
I'm way ahead of 'em. Plus enough gas laid up to run it for a week.

I am shy a generator right now... All I have right now is a 5500 construction jenny... way too loud.  Been swapping around a bit. I have a big trailer mounted welder, but I need to rebuild the motor... Would like to have a shed out back by the pump house for a dedicated jenny and batts, and that's where I am going.

But I am also down to one freezer... and one fridge. Been converting as much as I can to canned so I don't need em so much. Got plenty of white gas, kerosene, diesel, and gasoline, not to mention enough candles for a winter or two... Light ain't a problem. And wood for the stove, so heat and cooking ain't a problem. Just the fridge and freezer. And half the year - the half that is likely to be a problem - I can just set all that outside in the snow, or on the mud porch if I don't want it frozen.

I'll get by alright.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2019, 12:44:31 am »
Tell me how wwe 'voted for this?'
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Don't bother, just like with some it's because..............Trump! So it for others because................California! Because shit in other states doesn't stink.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2019, 12:46:35 am »
@sneakypete
Not to mention fires...

Hungry? No power, what they gonna do? Well up here that would be fire up the grill, or build a fire in the firepit and cook on that... Guess what happens next with gusty winds...
Not to worry, what the idjits do is fire up the Hibachi indoors, soon no more idjits.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2019, 01:33:35 am »
California  only starting having problems of this magnitude, when it reached One Party Rule.
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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2019, 02:35:00 am »
Not to worry, what the idjits do is fire up the Hibachi indoors, soon no more idjits.

LOL! One can hope, I guess... So far as I can see, we ain't running short on idjits.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2019, 02:41:46 am »
How many more fires will there be from candles and oil lamps???

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2019, 02:44:22 am »
BTW, my prediction is this will continue until the state concedes and gives the power companies some immunity from fires started by power lines in high wind and dry weather conditions.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2019, 02:45:04 am »


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7616391/PG-E-threatens-cut-power-2-5-million-people-historic-wind-event.html

The list of counties is a bit misleading. I live in Santa Clara County, but San Jose and surrounding cities are largely unaffected. The map kind of shows that, though you almost have to know where the boundary is between the bay and land.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 02:46:41 am by PeteS in CA »
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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2019, 02:47:08 am »
The map and list of counties are a bit misleading. I live in Santa Clara County, but San Jose and surrounding cities are largely unaffected.

Thanks.  It's from this morning and I didn't see an update. 

So you're okay -- electricity and no fire??

@PeteS in CA




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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2019, 04:01:36 am »
California gets about 10% of its electricity from wind energy.  http://content.caiso.com/green/renewrpt/DailyRenewablesWatch.pdf

I wonder how much of this electricity will be generated by the 50 mph winds currently being experienced?
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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2019, 04:11:01 am »
BTW, my prediction is this will continue until the state concedes and gives the power companies some immunity from fires started by power lines in high wind and dry weather conditions.

Sounds like a better idea, than the present situation. This business of being incapable of dealing with old problems, just began during One-Party Rule.

This Governor, former mayor of the streets of San Feces needs to be recalled. The Republicans need a high profile candidate (like Reagan, Arnold, etc.) How about Tom McClintock gives it another try?



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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2019, 04:37:42 am »
California gets about 10% of its electricity from wind energy.  http://content.caiso.com/green/renewrpt/DailyRenewablesWatch.pdf

I wonder how much of this electricity will be generated by the 50 mph winds currently being experienced?

Where did you get that 10% number? Doesn't look even close.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2019, 04:45:44 am »
California gets about 10% of its electricity from wind energy.  http://content.caiso.com/green/renewrpt/DailyRenewablesWatch.pdf

I wonder how much of this electricity will be generated by the 50 mph winds currently being experienced?

From your link it is 1.8% for wind energy.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2019, 04:50:39 am »
Huge parts of northern California are now without power:

http://critweb-outage.pgealerts.com/

If you zoom in it will show the actual outline of the areas turned off. It is huge.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2019, 06:34:56 am »
California gets about 10% of its electricity from wind energy.  http://content.caiso.com/green/renewrpt/DailyRenewablesWatch.pdf

I wonder how much of this electricity will be generated by the 50 mph winds currently being experienced?

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IF I remember correctly,exactly NONE of it.  They shut down the wind mills and lock the blades down in high winds to keep them from spinning too fast. I don't know what the maximum wind speed would be,but 50 would seem past the limit to me.
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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2019, 10:59:04 am »
Walk around with their phones held toward the sky.
Learn morse, use the viewfinder to aim the flashes and signal each other with sunlight reflected from the screens?
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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2019, 01:29:11 pm »
Thanks.  It's from this morning and I didn't see an update. 

So you're okay -- electricity and no fire??

@PeteS in CA

I've not been affected - power shut down or fire. @skeeter is near the edge of affected and unaffected areas (power, not fire) as her town is partly in the Santa Clara Valley and partly in the foothills of the Santa Cruz Mountains. Saratoga is similarly partly affected, and an edge of Appletino could be affected. Looking in the other direction of that map I linked, part of San Jose's Almaden Valley could be affected (the edge is right at the start/finish park of a 5K/10K I did several weeks ago). On the other side of the Santa Clara Valley, parts of East San Jose that are up in the foothills could be affected, including Alum Rock Park and the Mt. Hamilton area (including Lick Observatory).

For the terminally curious, the elevation profiles for these two trail runs give some idea of the terrain in those areas:

https://brazenracing.com/trailquake/race-info/#course  (I did the half marathon several years ago, it is tough!)

https://brazenracing.com/trailhog/race-info/#course  (I did the half marathon several years ago; on a hot day even the 5K is tough)

Both of those venues are in areas that could have power shut off.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 01:35:37 pm by PeteS in CA »
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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2019, 01:51:01 pm »
I've not been affected - power shut down or fire. @skeeter is near the edge of affected and unaffected areas (power, not fire) as her town is partly in the Santa Clara Valley and partly in the foothills of the Santa Cruz Mountains. Saratoga is similarly partly affected, and an edge of Appletino could be affected. Looking in the other direction of that map I linked, part of San Jose's Almaden Valley could be affected (the edge is right at the start/finish park of a 5K/10K I did several weeks ago). On the other side of the Santa Clara Valley, parts of East San Jose that are up in the foothills could be affected, including Alum Rock Park and the Mt. Hamilton area (including Lick Observatory).

For the terminally curious, the elevation profiles for these two trail runs give some idea of the terrain in those areas:

https://brazenracing.com/trailquake/race-info/#course  (I did the half marathon several years ago, it is tough!)

https://brazenracing.com/trailhog/race-info/#course  (I did the half marathon several years ago; on a hot day even the 5K is tough)

Both of those venues are in areas that could have power shut off.

They got us this time. Power was cut here around 11 last night.

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2019, 02:00:37 pm »
California wildfires prompt more evacuations as PG&E shuts off power to almost 1 million customers

By Christina Maxouris, CNN

Updated 8:42 AM ET, Sun October 27, 2019
 

Millions facing a critical fire threat in California 02:08

(CNN)Powerful winds in California prompted a massive power shutoff to nearly a million customers while wildfires raged across parts of the state.

"The Red Flag fire weather conditions combined with dry fuels will bring the potential for very rapid fire spread and extreme fire behavior with any new ignitions Sunday night into Monday," the National Weather Service in Los Angeles said.
The Tick Fire, which is burning near Santa Clarita, had destroyed at least 16 structures by late Saturday and was threatening about 10,000 more, the Los Angeles County Fire Department said.

https://us.cnn.com/2019/10/27/us/california-power-outages-fires-sunday/index.html

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2019, 02:02:18 pm »
How does Mejifornia solve the problem?  It needs to side with Charlie Schumer and make sure all cars in the state are electrically powered. :whistle:

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Re: California prepares for biggest blackout yet
« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2019, 02:10:48 pm »
Where did you get that 10% number? Doesn't look even close.
Table for Oct 26, 2019 shows 23,339 MWh for wind and 555,019 MWh for total demand, making it 4.2%.  That is for today, which has high winds.

Go back and look at older ones say Sept 18, 2019.
It is 10.5%

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