Noonan: The Impeachment Needle May Move Soon

[skeeter]

Like @skeeter said on the thread you linked to...your premise is laughable on it's face.

Ok Skippy...show me where he's done any of that.

The leftist are now indulging in impeachment fantasies, re-imagining its original purpose to suit themselves and as if it won't be used against them one day.

And they probably will pull it off, the rat media being in lockstep and all.

I'm not sure how they plan on dealing with the voters, half of whom know damn well this is just a way to redo an election the rats had already lost. They probably figure they'll cross that bridge when they get to it but I do not think they'll ever actually get to it.

[OfTheCross]

Like @skeeter said on the thread you linked to...your premise is laughable on it's face.

Ok Skippy...show me where he's done any of that.

The Dems are building their case. If he's done any of that they'll present their Articles of Impeachment.

[Wingnut]

The Dems are building their case. If he's done any of that they'll present their Articles of Impeachment.

I think you meant to say even if he hasn't done any of that they'll present it.


Get real my liberal interloper. 

[Cyber Liberty]

I think you meant to say even if he hasn't done any of that they'll present it.


Get real my liberal interloper.

Lookit the bright side!  OffalTheCross didn't link a locked thread this time, saving me the work of having to edit out his link again.  Of course, had he done that after I explained he is not to do that, we would not be talking to him right now because Ban Hammer.   

Everyody is out to save me work?

[OfTheCross]

I think you meant to say even if he hasn't done any of that they'll present it.


Get real my liberal interloper.

Well, these are laws that Donald Trump has possibly broken.

Whether or not the Dems will have any evidence of it is a mystery to us all.

The longer their inquiry takes the less likely I think it is that they'll impeach.

If Donald doesn't commit any unforced errors and keeps a low profile about this the American public will forget about it.

I think what's hurting is that ever week there's a new mini-scandal surrounding the impeachment inquiry and it's keeping it in the news cycle

[skeeter]

Well, these are laws that Donald Trump has possibly broken.

Whether or not the Dems will have any evidence of it is a mystery to us all.

The longer their inquiry takes the less likely I think it is that they'll impeach.

If Donald doesn't commit any unforced errors and keeps a low profile about this the American public will forget about it.

I think what's hurting is that ever week there's a new mini-scandal surrounding the impeachment inquiry and it's keeping it in the news cycle

do you think Biden might anything to worry about?

[Wingnut]

Lookit the bright side! 

Everyody is out to save me work?

Well, you are the right to be on OTC like rust on a pump handle.

[OfTheCross]

do you think Biden might anything to worry about?

Very possible. Since he's not the front runner any more the heat is a little off him. But if her were to get the nomination he'd have plenty to worry about.

[Cyber Liberty]

The longer their inquiry takes the less likely I think it is that they'll impeach.

If Donald doesn't commit any unforced errors and keeps a low profile about this the American public will forget about it.

I think what's hurting is that ever week there's a new mini-scandal surrounding the impeachment inquiry and it's keeping it in the news cycle

What you seem to think, is that we are all really stupid on TBR.  Riiiight.  Trump "lays low" (whatever the heck that means.  Behave like a Democrat?), and the Rats will let off.

I don't like posters who denigrate the intelligence or our Members.  Capiche?

[OfTheCross]

What you seem to think, is that we are all really stupid on TBR.  Riiiight.  Trump "lays low" (whatever the heck that means.  Behave like a Democrat?), and the Rats will let off.

I don't like posters who denigrate the intelligence or our Members.  Capiche?

Lay low. Like Mike Pence; you never hear that guy. Like, maybe not tweet everyday about the impeachment. Like, maybe not talk about impeachment at all the rallies. Like that.

Just handle all other matters, don't rock the boat. Walk a straight line for a while.

Since we're speaking Italian let me give you a mob example. When the block is hot and cops start coming about, you stop making noise and take the business underground for a while.

[catfish1957]

I think what's hurting is that ever week there's a new mini-scandal surrounding the impeachment inquiry and it's keeping it in the news cycle

So you are basically saying this impeachment process is being impeded by a long drawn out game of "Whack-a-mole"?  Whose fault is that, that the dim wits have a attention span of 5 monutes?

Personally, I don't see enough here that would convince roughly 20 GOP senators to vote for conviction.  Trump's not the most ethical guy out there, but the "High Crimes and Misdeameanor"  bar hasn't even closely been breached yet.

[OfTheCross]

So you are basically saying this impeachment process is being impeded by a long drawn out game of "Whack-a-mole"?  Whose fault is that, that the dim wits have a attention span of 5 monutes?

Personally, I don't see enough here that would convince roughly 20 GOP senators to vote for conviction.  Trump's not the most ethical guy out there, but the "High Crimes and Misdeameanor"  bar hasn't even closely been breached yet.

I agree. I said going in to this that if they get even 1 GOP Senator to vote for impeachment to consider that a victory.

[catfish1957]

I agree. I said going in to this that if they get even 1 GOP Senator to vote for impeachment to consider that a victory.

I am really confused now.  How does one GOP senator (which likely will happen with Romney) voting for conviciton constitue a victory?

Bi-partisan comdenation?  That might buy Schumer and Peolosi a cup of coffee at the Captiol coffee shop.

[sneakypete]

Impeaching without a thorough, independent investigation is an iffy proposition - they'll be going to the Senate with conclusions based on a one-sided, totally partisan process. I would expect Roberts to give the Senate wide latitude to get at the other side of the story. That could get pretty messy and take a long time, with daily opportunities to criticize the fairness of the way the House conducted its investigation. I think they need a lot more than they have now.

 

@Snarknado

I expect Roberts to stick a knife in the back of the still clueless Republicans that think he is a conservative because he wears a Big R  "R" on his chest. Don't expect "Principle Stands" to be made by a homosexual jurist still in the closet.

[sneakypete]

What worries me is are there are enough cowards in the GOP who, while they don't openly say so, privately long to get rid of the outsider and are hoping the rats give them cover so they can participate in driving him out.

@skeeter

I have the same fears. Just look at Lady Lindsey,who is now swinging both ways when it comes to politics. Talks tough one day to appeal to conservatives,and then works with the left the next day to make it harder for Trump to get re-elected.

[txradioguy]

@Snarknado

I expect Roberts to stick a knife in the back of the still clueless Republicans that think he is a conservative because he wears a Big R  "R" on his chest. Don't expect "Principle Stands" to be made by a homosexual jurist still in the closet.

Actually Roberts actually is there more in a ministerial role than in a legal one.  The framers decided that the Chief Justice should preside over the proceedings mainly to keep the Vice President from doing so as President of the Senate and to avoid any ponstances when he might have a manifest interest, which would destroy his impartiality.

[sneakypete]

Ok...now how about something from the Federalist Papers...something more relevant to our actual Constitution.

@txradioguy

I was unaware that our Constitution was still relevant.

Sadly,I am NOT trying to be a wise-ass. I wish I were.

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

I was unaware that our Constitution was still relevant.

Sadly,I am NOT trying to be a wise-ass. I wish I were.

No I know what you mean.

It's still relevant to those of us who truly care about it...or at one point in our lives took an oath to uphold and defend it.  If you know what I mean.

[sneakypete]

I'm not sure how they plan on dealing with the voters,

@skeeter

You are kidding,right?

Half of them are clueless fools that don't know and don't want to know,and the other half are globalists who dream of living in the comic book world of their youth and actively hate the Constitution for getting in the way of their dreamed of World Wide Government,Inc,where everyone will be forced to live  under the will of their masters.

There is NOTHING a natural slave loves more than a strict master.

[sneakypete]

I agree. I said going in to this that if they get even 1 GOP Senator to vote for impeachment to consider that a victory.

@OfTheCross

Does the name "Susan Collins" ring a bell? I'd be shocked if she hasn't already agreed to vote to convict.

[sneakypete]

Impeaching without a thorough, independent investigation is an iffy proposition - they'll be going to the Senate with conclusions based on a one-sided, totally partisan process.

@Snarknado

I have said it before,and I will say it again,impeachment is not going to happen unless something is exposed by accident that gives them no choice. The whole purposes of this whole impeachment farce is to make Trump lose re-election by convincing the unaffiliated voters that he is a criminal trying to destroy America for his own profits in power and wealth.

Which,ironically enough,is exactly what the Dim money men are doing.

Impeaching him is the last thing they want to do. They want to DEFEAT him,and make conservatives appear to be losers while making themselves look lik Patriotic Winners.

In FACT,impeaching him a few months before an election might even delay the election until a new president and staff are in the WH,and this is the last thing they want to do.

I have no idea why so many people have so much trouble understanding that.

[skeeter]

@skeeter

You are kidding,right?

Half of them are clueless fools that don't know and don't want to know,and the other half are globalists who dream of living in the comic book world of their youth and actively hate the Constitution for getting in the way of their dreamed of World Wide Government,Inc,where everyone will be forced to live  under the will of their masters.

There is NOTHING a natural slave loves more than a strict master.

Its the other half I'm referring to.

CWI occurred because the southern half of the nation, more or less, didn't feel their interests were being adequately represented in DC.

Today the left half is telling the other half they to not intend to allow them ANY representation.

Doesn't take a spelling bee champ to see where this is headed.

[sneakypete]

Its the other half I'm referring to.



Doesn't take a spelling bee champ to see where this is headed.

@skeeter

Or a history professor. Violence and revolution are MUSTS if a Communist government is to take control because the majority of the people nowhere will willingly vote for them if they have any other options.

[Fishrrman]

Sneaky P wrote:
"Violence and revolution are MUSTS if a Communist government is to take control because the majority of the people nowhere will willingly vote for them if they have any other options."

I respectfully disagree, Pete.
Look at what's happening in a large portion of America... today.

Look at California;
Massachusetts;
Vermont;
New York;
Illinois;
Maryland;
Oregon;
Washington.

An increasingly large portion of the population is acting like they're almost-ready to vote in socialism (or the sheep's clothing of socialism under which lies its true nature, communism). These aren't "small numbers", either, but instead comprise 30, 35% of the voting population, or more.

For the last 40 years, our young -- at least those who attend public schools -- have been "educated" by a cadre of leftists, to be further indoctrinated in universities by out-and-out communists. All part of Gramsci's (and The Frankfurt School's) idea of a "long march through the institutions" to change the culture and political system by changing what people think.

Ironically, the United States could become the first nation in history to slide into communism not through the ammo box... but through the ballot box instead.

That's why I've been posting my "American Timeline":
2019: USA -- United States of America
2027: USSA -- United Socialist States of America
2035: USSSA -- United Soviet Socialist States of America
2042:  ?????

But hey ... that's just me, the dumb ol' Fishrrman mouthin' off.
It could never happen here.
Right....?

[Snarknado]

@Snarknado

I have said it before,and I will say it again,impeachment is not going to happen unless something is exposed by accident that gives them no choice. The whole purposes of this whole impeachment farce is to make Trump lose re-election by convincing the unaffiliated voters that he is a criminal trying to destroy America for his own profits in power and wealth.

Which,ironically enough,is exactly what the Dim money men are doing.

Impeaching him is the last thing they want to do. They want to DEFEAT him,and make conservatives appear to be losers while making themselves look lik Patriotic Winners.

In FACT,impeaching him a few months before an election might even delay the election until a new president and staff are in the WH,and this is the last thing they want to do.

I have no idea why so many people have so much trouble understanding that.

Maybe you're right, but it sure looks to me like they're past the point of no return. Walking it back now would be seen as giving Trump a gigantic victory, and that would send their base completely over the edge.