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And you keep the democrat Talking Points,close at hand.

Are your handlers there, giving you good ratings?

For a Truth Seeker you sure do get made at the truth. Was my post true or false?
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No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Pass one of those my way.  offtheshelph is being a PITA
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That was a great tweet and a great map.

I still believe 2020 is going to be as difficult a fight to win as was 2016.
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Minor point, but quite a few of those red counties are supposed to be colored blue.  I'm not sure what year that map represents ... it doesn't match anything?

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??? It's not true.  So how is it brilliant?

Definitely not brilliant.  Stupid.  Lies are never smart.
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I disagree.  What it translates in Electoral votes isn't germane.

It's the strongest possible way to show that virtually all of America is with him.


It shows in the strongest possible way that the peoples' choice made in 2016 deserves to be respected,  not overturned upon the demand of elites.    This impeachment imbroglio is not about Trump, at least not to me it is.   This is about the left's refusal to respect our Constitutional right to self-governance.   
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If that's the case what lawmakers is he referring to? There can't be more than a handful that fit that description, no?

Enough to tip any impeachment vote.

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Definitely not brilliant.  Stupid.  Lies are never smart.

What lies are you referring to now?  You must have a link because surely you're not just throwing out nonsense.

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What lies are you referring to now?  You must have a link because surely you're not just throwing out nonsense.

I responded to what @libertybele posted saying the map wasn't right.  She stands corrected as do I.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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I responded to what @libertybele posted saying the map wasn't right.  She stands corrected as do I.

Thanks.   :beer:

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The accuracy of that map has no bearing on whether or not Trump has committed impeachable acts.
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The accuracy of that map has no bearing on whether or not Trump has committed impeachable acts.

No, but he is claiming his popularity and that IS what the DEMS cannot deny and what they are afraid of.  They have done everything to undermine his presidency and he is still making accomplishments.  IMHO the more bogus accusations that they throw at him the more his popularity is solidified and grows. 
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   I was kinda looking forward to a President Cruz.  The only thing he seemed to be guilty of besides being too damn Conservative for the GOP was his affiliation where his Wife worked, Goldman Sachs.  Being that Trump exposed that in the Primaries and forced him (for political survival reasons) to release all his Tax Returns, yes, some were amended along with his FEC updates. I just don't think he or his small Family could've/would've colluded with the Russians and/or  Ukrainians in the NY Realtor Wheeler/Dealer style.
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   I was kinda looking forward to a President Cruz.  The only thing he seemed to be guilty of besides being too damn Conservative for the GOP was his affiliation where his Wife worked, Goldman Sachs.  Being that Trump exposed that in the Primaries and forced him (for political survival reasons) to release all his Tax Returns, yes, some were amended along with his FEC updates. I just don't think he or his small Family could've/would've colluded with the Russians and/or  Ukrainians in the NY Realtor Wheeler/Dealer style.

I was hoping for a President Cruz as well.  Against all odds Ted won his TX senate seat.  Then good ole boy Mitch expected him to march to the beat of his drum and Ted did just the opposite.  To make matters worse, Ted publicly called him a liar. So he didn't exactly have the GOP on his side; in fact if you recall, Trump met with both Mitch and Ryan before he had even won the nomination. Even then the country club would have rather had Trump than Cruz and Hillary rather than Trump.  The rest is history.
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The accuracy of that map has no bearing on whether or not Trump has committed impeachable acts.

If Trump may have committed impeachable acts,  why hasn't the full House voted to begin an impeachment inquiry?    Why should anyone believe the President committed impeachable acts just because Pelosi and Schiff say so?   
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If Trump may have committed impeachable acts,  why hasn't the full House voted to begin an impeachment inquiry?    Why should anyone believe the President committed impeachable acts just because Pelosi and Schiff say so?   

If Schiff and Pelosi find anything in their inquiry, they'll present it to the full House to vote.
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You do know how many guns those folks in the red area's own don't you. 
We get trumps point....do you?
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If Schiff and Pelosi find anything in their inquiry, they'll present it to the full House to vote.
Neither want to "find" anything. They are playing the long game. They are using the media to beat him with half truths distortions and innuendos. If you tell a big enough lie.....
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If Schiff and Pelosi find anything in their inquiry, they'll present it to the full House to vote.

Are you willing to accept such a nakedly partisan standard when it's a Dem President being hounded by a GOP House speaker?   You're aware, are you not, that with both the Nixon and Clinton impeachments,  the full House voted first to authorize the inquiry - and that the vote was bipartisan.    Why don't you support such a imprimatur of legitimacy here? 
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Are you willing to accept such a nakedly partisan standard when it's a Dem President being hounded by a GOP House speaker?   You're aware, are you not, that with both the Nixon and Clinton impeachments,  the full House voted first to authorize the inquiry - and that the vote was bipartisan.    Why don't you support such a imprimatur of legitimacy here?

"On October 30, 1973, the House Judiciary Committee began consideration of the possible impeachment of Richard Nixon.[21] The initial straight party-line votes by a 21–17 margin that established an impeachment inquiry were focused around how extensive the subpoena powers Rodino would have would be.[22]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_against_Richard_Nixon#Impeachment_inquiry


"Since Ken Starr had already completed an extensive investigation, the House Judiciary Committee conducted no investigations of its own into Clinton's alleged wrongdoing, and it held no serious impeachment-related hearings before the 1998 midterm elections. Nevertheless, impeachment was one of the major issues in the election."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton#Independent_counsel_investigation


Every situation is different. We're in the fact-finding stage.
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Every situation is different. We're in the fact-finding Witch hunt stage.
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Every situation is different. We're in the fact-finding stage.

Why are you afraid to demand that House members stand up and be counted before the witch hunt?   
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Why are you afraid to demand that House members stand up and be counted before the witch hunt?

I don't see this as a witch hunt, for one.

Secondly, they'll all be able to vote on whatever the findings are.

Just because you and the media are in a frenzy over it doesn't mean anything is actually happening.

The only difference between last week and the 2 years before is that Nancy Pelosi said she's on board.
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