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Offline Right_in_Virginia

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Senate Republicans are never going to turn on Trump
« on: September 28, 2019, 03:32:42 pm »
Senate Republicans are never going to turn on Trump
The Week, Sep 28, 2019, Matthew Walther

Jeff Flake said on Thursday that if a private vote were held on the matter, at least 35 Republican senators would choose to remove Donald Trump from office. I would be tempted to observe that this is a bit like saying that millions of Americans would fire their bosses and give themselves a 1000-percent raise if they could do so by pushing a magic button, but that would mean accepting Flake's underlying premise.

Why does he think that his former Senate colleagues have had it with the president? In case he hasn't noticed, with the not especially noteworthy exceptions of Mitt Romney and Ben Sasse, who have settled comfortably into their respective media niches as "sober elder statesman" and "last honest man in the GOP," Republicans are circling the wagons. This is the case across what passes for the conservative ideological spectrum in the post-Trump GOP, from hawkish moderates like Lindsey Graham to libertarians like Rand Paul to the paternalist maverick Josh Hawley. This is to say nothing of Mitch McConnell. "I've read the summary of the call. If this is the ‘launching point' for House Democrats' impeachment process, they've already overplayed their hand. It's clear there is no quid pro quo that the Democrats were desperately praying for," he told Politico on Wednesday.

Which seems more likely, that McConnell and his members are all pining for a return to the days when they lost two consecutive presidential elections but are burying this beautiful hope deep within their hearts, or that Flake is engaging in wish fulfillment here? From his current vantage point as a guy who gets paid to travel around the country lamenting the depravity of a president whose agenda he supported 81 percent of the time while in office (more frequently even than his Tea Party colleagues Rand Paul and Mike Lee) it might be difficult to understand, but the reality is that Trump is wildly popular with the GOP base and a boon for its members in both houses of Congress. If anything, I would guess that even Romney would not vote to remove Trump if his fans at The Atlantic would never learn about it.

Flake also seems to be ignoring the reality that Trump's removal from office by a Republican Senate would not only be a disaster for the GOP but arguably the most radical action in the history of the American Congress. Neither of our two previously impeached presidents were removed from office. If Trump is impeached, which still seems unlikely enough anyway, the Senate is not going to bring him down.

https://theweek.com/articles/868258/senate-republicans-are-never-going-turn-trump

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Re: Senate Republicans are never going to turn on Trump
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2019, 08:30:39 pm »
Reality is they turned on him long ago which is why they ignore his proposals.

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Re: Senate Republicans are never going to turn on Trump
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2019, 08:39:37 pm »
Reality is they turned on him long ago which is why they ignore his proposals.

I'd have to agree with that.  He certainly doesn't have the GOP behind him, otherwise we'd be hearing some sort of rebuttal or condemnation against the DEMS.
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: Senate Republicans are never going to turn on Trump
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2019, 09:44:39 pm »
I'd have to agree with that.  He certainly doesn't have the GOP behind him, otherwise we'd be hearing some sort of rebuttal or condemnation against the DEMS.
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An assessment/opinion.
"If" Trump is going out the door, one way or another; be it sooner rather than later. Why?
* because Pence is his successor, not Pelosi !
* the D's will give Trump absolutely zero till election day.
* more time gives the R's the opportunity to generate sympathy among voters.
* it also gives them time to build a case against Biden and Junior.

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Re: Senate Republicans are never going to turn on Trump
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2019, 09:57:23 pm »
I'd have to agree with that.  He certainly doesn't have the GOP behind him, otherwise we'd be hearing some sort of rebuttal or condemnation against the DEMS.

The rebuttals are out there @libertybele   I've posted quite a few.

POTUS and Lindsay were golfing today ... and I suspect we'll see the fruits of a coordinated rebuttal beginning with the Sunday shows.

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Re: Senate Republicans are never going to turn on Trump
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2019, 10:06:31 pm »
The rebuttals are out there @libertybele   I've posted quite a few.

POTUS and Lindsay were golfing today ... and I suspect we'll see the fruits of a coordinated rebuttal beginning with the Sunday shows.

I'm talking in the sense that ALL of the GOP Senate or at least the vast majority of them should be up in arms and EVERYONE of them should be making some sort of political statement to the media.  They are for the most part, except for the usual few, silent.
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Re: Senate Republicans are never going to turn on Trump
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2019, 02:12:33 am »
I'd have to agree with that.  He certainly doesn't have the GOP behind him, otherwise we'd be hearing some sort of rebuttal or condemnation against the DEMS.

I know that Cruz and Cornyn spoke out against the witch hunt.  Ditto Nunes, Jordan, Kennedy, etc.  Maybe it's not being reported on?