The five most serious charges in the whistleblower's complaint

[mystery-ak]

The five most serious charges in the whistleblower's complaint
By Niall Stanage - 09/26/19 01:37 PM EDT

President Trump’s troubles grew deeper and darker on Thursday morning when a whistleblower complaint became public.

Trump is facing serious threat of impeachment over his dealings with Ukraine and its president Volodymyr Zelensky. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a reluctant convert to the impeachment cause, is now spearheading the effort.

Trump and his allies are fighting back over the allegations. The president insists the whole matter is a “hoax” and that he did nothing wrong.


White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham, in a Thursday morning statement, dismissed the complaint as “nothing more than a collection of third-hand accounts of events and cobbled-together press clippings—all of which shows nothing improper.”

But those statements won’t quell the storm, at least for now.

Here are the most serious allegations.

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[PeteS in CA]

The White House sought to hide details of Trump’s phone call

Translation: the file was moved from one known, temporary, drive/folder to the appropriate drive/folder after it was determined what that drive/folder was. Normal process.

Trump allies used leverage to get Ukraine to ‘play ball’

Did. NOT. Happen.

The White House has hidden the details of other phone calls

Translation: the files were moved from one known, temporary, drive/folder to the appropriate drives/folders after it was determined what those drives/folders were. Normal process.

Officials were ‘deeply concerned’ by Giuliani’s activities

Big whoop! What were those "activities"? How were they - if there were any - illegal or unethical?

Ukrainian officials knew U.S. aid could be in jeopardy

And Ukrainian officials knew what the reasons were, all unrelated to any Biden living or dead.

[Sanguine]

Translation: the file was moved from one known, temporary, drive/folder to the appropriate drive/folder after it was determined what that drive/folder was. Normal process.

Did. NOT. Happen.

Translation: the files were moved from one known, temporary, drive/folder to the appropriate drives/folders after it was determined what those drives/folders were. Normal process.

Big whoop! What were those "activities"? How were they - if there were any - illegal or unethical?

And Ukrainian officials knew what the reasons were, all unrelated to any Biden living or dead.

Good summation, thanks. 

[skeeter]

Truth no longer has a role in rat deliberations. What they can get to stick is all that matters.

[aligncare]

Truth no longer has a role in rat deliberations. What they can get to stick is all that matters.

Depending on the degree of hair-on-fire surrounding the event, the media will “sticky” each new episode for anywhere from 2-3 days to 2 weeks before it blows up. So there’s that.

[skeeter]

Depending on the degree of hair-on-fire surrounding the event, the media will “sticky” each new episode for anywhere from 2-3 days to 2 weeks. So there’s that.

All leading up to an election where they’ll ask the question ‘do Americans really want another four years of an administration so mired in nonstop scandal?’

[Sanguine]

All leading up to an election where they’ll ask the question ‘do Americans really want another four years of an administration so mired in nonstop scandal?’

Yes, "all the chaos.  We want someone who can get things done for the American people",  and variations on that theme. 

[aligncare]

All leading up to an election where they’ll ask the question ‘do Americans really want another four years of an administration so mired in nonstop scandal?’

Good question.

But, the democrats overplay each and every accusation.

My guess is

1. average people notice the nearly 100% congruency between democrat messaging and the media parroting it and

2. average people in the middle, not initially supportive of Trump, are starting to move in his direction because of all the accusations that turn out to be false and the seeming unfairness of the presidential harassment being conducted by the democrats and their allies in the media.

[Sanguine]

Good question.

But, the democrats overplay each and every accusation.

My guess is

1. average people notice the nearly 100% congruency between democrat messaging and the media parroting it and

2. average people in the middle, not initially supportive of Trump, are starting to move in his direction because of all the accusations that turn out to be false and the seeming unfairness of the presidential harassment being conducted by the democrats and their allies in the media.

Not to depress you, but did you catch Juan Williams on The Five yesterday?  He absolutely refused to accept any facts that countered the "bad orange man" theme and spouted off all sorts of opinion and innuendo as factual when they were anti-Trump or pro-0bama.  It was both amazing and infuriating to watch.  Nothing got through to him. 

I think he is an exemplar of leftists in general.

[skeeter]

Not to depress you, but did you catch Juan Williams on The Five yesterday?  He absolutely refused to accept any facts that countered the "bad orange man" theme and spouted off all sorts of opinion and innuendo as factual when they were anti-Trump or pro-0bama.  It was both amazing and infuriating to watch.  Nothing got through to him. 

I think he is an exemplar of leftists in general.

I had a very rare political discussion with a leftist friend of mine recently - you are absolutely correct as far as the left goes. They are utterly impervious to reason.