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More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« on: September 11, 2019, 02:46:15 pm »
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Some state governments are adopting a new tool: so-called red flag laws, which allow law enforcement or a family to petition to confiscate an individual’s guns. These efforts coincide with work in Congress, where the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday began to consider several gun measures including one to establish a federal red flag law.

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Gun rights activists consider red flag proposals, a version of which is the centerpiece to DeWine’s 17-point plan, problematic for several reasons, including the potential for misuse. A disgruntled family member could report a non-threatening gun owner in an effort to harass, they say, and they argue the policies lack due process provisions to ensure rights are protected.

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This is the balancing act DeWine sees. “How do you protect the Second Amendment, but at the same time protect the public?” he said.

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At the National Rifle Association’s Institute of Legislative Affairs leadership forum in 2018, Abbott told the group that “the answer to gun violence … is to strengthen Second Amendment rights for law-abiding citizens.”

But he followed that with a line that guns should be taken “out of the hands of those mentally unfit to have” them. More recently, he listed improving enforcement of existing laws on background checks and emergency protective orders that take guns away from people convicted of domestic assault.

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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2019, 03:08:18 pm »
Quick @Jazzhead say something really stupid so we can jump all ove your Shite again.
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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2019, 05:37:55 pm »
And none of the leftist gun grabbing schemes would do anything to address gun violence...all they do is punish the law abiding citizen trying to defend themselves.

BTW...there's no link to the story...just your cherry picked pieces.
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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2019, 05:47:16 pm »
And none of the leftist gun grabbing schemes would do anything to address gun violence...all they do is punish the law abiding citizen trying to defend themselves.

BTW...there's no link to the story...just your cherry picked pieces.

there's a link in the OP

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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2019, 05:56:26 pm »
there's a link in the OP

Is there? I don't see it.  You need to make it more clear for the rest of us.


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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2019, 05:57:48 pm »
there's a link in the OP

What if any of those plans would stop violent felons from acquiring weapons illegally?  Which red flag law or expanded background check would stop someone who's failed a NICS check from acquiring a ghost gun or making his or her own?
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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2019, 05:59:52 pm »
And there will be plenty of Lefists lying in wait for a gun owner to make one wrong move, say the wrong thing, or act the wrong way, and SWAT them.

Or for that matter SWAT anyone they find out even owns a gun.
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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2019, 06:07:33 pm »
What if any of those plans would stop violent felons from acquiring weapons illegally?  Which red flag law or expanded background check would stop someone who's failed a NICS check from acquiring a ghost gun or making his or her own?

Felons aren't typically the ones doing indiscriminate mass shootings like Parkland, Toledo, Texas' last couple, Las Vegas, etc.

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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2019, 06:19:06 pm »
Felons aren't typically the ones doing indiscriminate mass shootings like Parkland, Toledo, Texas' last couple, Las Vegas, etc.

They aren't?  Parkland and Toledo happen on an average weekend in Baltimore and Chicago.  52 people were shot in Chicago and 8 killed the same weekend of the Odessa shooting.  All criminal activity.

And the the shootings you listed...none of the new laws or schemes you advocate for owuld have stopped those shootings.

Not.a.single.one.
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Re: More states allowing gun seizures amid plague of mass shootings
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2019, 07:07:38 pm »
But he followed that with a line that guns should be taken “out of the hands of those mentally unfit to have” them.

And in that, the 'decider' becomes the play.