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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #100 on: September 05, 2019, 04:20:13 pm »
:scared smiley:

That cat looks like it got into Jr's 'special' brownies pre-cake...lol.
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #101 on: September 05, 2019, 04:21:09 pm »
Aww, gee, thanks MAK.....  but my pals said that can't eat the ice cream with those plastic forks.....

 :shrug:

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #102 on: September 05, 2019, 04:21:44 pm »
Lol... I was thinking along the lines of much more fun... like....

food fight!!!



That's just what I am afraid of seeing happen.....  Tommy went and made my party turn into a food fight....

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #103 on: September 05, 2019, 04:23:23 pm »
That's just what I am afraid of seeing happen.....  Tommy went and made my party turn into a food fight....

 rrthree

It happens.   But.... it could always be worse.

It could be something other than food that they're flinging.    888mouth
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2019, 04:28:13 pm »
Ok, I have to ask.   

What are you hoping to accomplish by posting (writing, publishing) stuff like this?   

Are you hoping to further alienate those that plan to not support and/or vote for Trump ...thus making yourselves look just as dumb as the radical left intolerant anti-Trumper Democrats?   Or....is it your intention to piss off folks that are still on the fence and undecided?   Really?   Because... the way I see it...

this crap is totally, truly, stupidly antithetical to what we should be doing... which is attempting to win the hearts and minds of EVERY voter for the upcoming election.  Just.....sayin.....

I thought it was an interesting article, I had no idea it would gather attention, I thought it would just be one of those with maybe 1 comment and out.

I thought it was mainly aimed at people like Max Boot and Bill Kristol.  And those 2 do deserve to be called out.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #105 on: September 05, 2019, 04:30:22 pm »
Aww, gee, thanks MAK.....  but my pals said that can't eat the ice cream with those plastic forks.....

 :shrug:

...and here I went and found a birthday cake with ice cream...but I agree where are the spoons..
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #106 on: September 05, 2019, 04:32:56 pm »
I thought it was an interesting article, I had no idea it would gather attention, I thought it would just be one of those with maybe 1 comment and out.

I thought it was mainly aimed at people like Max Boot and Bill Kristol.  And those 2 do deserve to be called out.

It has sparked a VERY interesting day of "discussion"...lol.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #107 on: September 05, 2019, 04:33:19 pm »
Mark Levine was going on about this two nights ago, it looks like the left is going after Trump, they are actually going against us, you and me. There is an internet meme like that. 

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #108 on: September 05, 2019, 04:33:49 pm »
I thought it was an interesting article, I had no idea it would gather attention, I thought it would just be one of those with maybe 1 comment and out.

I thought it was mainly aimed at people like Max Boot and Bill Kristol.  And those 2 do deserve to be called out.

That sound you've been hearing is the sound of many shoes that fit being worn.   :shrug:
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #109 on: September 05, 2019, 04:35:03 pm »
It happens.   But.... it could always be worse.

It could be something other than food that they're flinging.    888mouth

It is OK.... MAK & CL promised that we can open the awesome single malt that @Bigun brought to my party.....  later on in the Lounge, once the crows stop flying.....

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #110 on: September 05, 2019, 04:35:29 pm »
Mark Levine was going on about this two nights ago, it looks like the left is going after Trump, they are actually going against us, you and me. There is an internet meme like that.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #111 on: September 05, 2019, 04:36:19 pm »
I thought it was an interesting article, I had no idea it would gather attention, I thought it would just be one of those with maybe 1 comment and out.

I thought it was mainly aimed at people like Max Boot and Bill Kristol.  And those 2 do deserve to be called out.

Well you tell them both that they are NOT invited to my party later, Tommy....

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #112 on: September 05, 2019, 04:38:09 pm »
Happy Birthday, Ed!  And, many more....

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #113 on: September 05, 2019, 04:39:19 pm »
@TomSea

Aww gee, Tommy, why did you have to go and do that?

I woke up happy and excited for my birthday today....

Was hoping that we could all have a good time at my party.....  CL & MAK promised ice cream and cake later....

Now you got all of my pals fighting and saying mean things....  Some party that's going to be.....

 **nononono*

@EdJames Happy birthday!

I'm in favor of allowing all nitwits to go away

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #114 on: September 05, 2019, 04:43:02 pm »
@EdJames Happy birthday!

I'm in favor of allowing all nitwits to go away

Be sure to join us in the Lounge later for a pop, GT!!

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #115 on: September 05, 2019, 04:43:39 pm »
I know there are some hard conservative NT'ers who oppose Trump because of a belief he has been insufficiently conservative. I disagree with them, but I respect their position as being policy-based.

What I don't get at all are the people like Boot -- referenced in that article -- who openly state that actual policy is less important to them than removing Trump from office because he's offensive/unfit. And just to be absolutely clear about what I'm criticizing (and it is NOT everyone who refuses to vote for Trump), Boot titled his article "Here are 14 Reasons I'll Vote For Any Democrat Over Trump," and said "“I will vote for any Democratic nominee, even Warren or Sanders, despite my profound disagreement with their far-left agendas.”

That's just jaw-dropping to me.  So he'd vote for Pete Buttigieg, who has openly stated his support for packing the Supreme Court by increasing the number of justices to 15.  Boot would  prefer the banning of cars, and stifling of political free speech by the FEC targetting conservatives, and repeal of Citizens United, and the elimination of the individual right to bear arms under Heller, and the mandatory federal financing of abortion on demand, open borders and the mass legalization/granting of citizenship and voting rights to people who came here illegally. 

He's fine with all those things -- many of which will be irreversible -- because they all are less important than Trump's personal moral failings.

That's just mind-blowing to me.  Again, for conservatives who see Trump himself as being wrong on a policy basis, that's a different story.  I get that.  I just don't get the people who openly subordinate core principles of liberty to Trump's personal moral failings.  I can't see how those two things are even on remotely the same level of importance to this country.

Love your post. Complete agreement. I’ve said similar about NeverTrumpers many times before.

What cause does incessant criticism of Trump serve?  If someone on the right is using the same lame Leftist talking points to attack the president as does the NYT, MSNBC, the democrat presidential candidate, their crazy aunt Mildred the flower child, yet they claim to be a conservative? Then it’s time for them to re-think their assumptions about whose side they’re on.

The moment is now. For whatever reasons, this president, Donald Trump, has flushed out socialists and Marxists among us and has brought this battle of competing ideas to a head.

Time to choose wisely, nevers.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #116 on: September 05, 2019, 04:57:08 pm »
Be sure to join us in the Lounge later for a pop, GT!!

That's some gratitude, actually, this was my b-day present to you.



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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #117 on: September 05, 2019, 04:57:18 pm »
I've no problem with what you said in the least.

However, IMO the writer was not calling you a nitwit, he was referring to a specific cadre of folks, and although you say you are I do not believe you are a NeverTrumper.

Actually, if you check my posts I have never called myself a NT.

That designation has been lavished on me by those who despise the fact that I won’t fold on centuries old values and hate me for it.

The names I have been called because of it have been disgusting.

However, I have become inured to the hateful words of these few angry, irrational people. (NOT including you or Xena).

It’s what you have to live with when Republican Party loyalty supersedes thought, and emotional loyalty to a “leader” overcomes all rational thought.
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #118 on: September 05, 2019, 04:58:37 pm »
Not with the anti-Christian irreligious (I call them heathens...lololol).

That would be the correct designation.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #119 on: September 05, 2019, 05:05:41 pm »
The Iran Treaty & Kyoto Protocol exits, support for Brexit, China trade situation, forcing NATO allies to pay up, building up the military & refusal of more military entanglements, etc.

On the other hand, not sure I care for sentencing reform nor do I like the ridiculous budgets.

 

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It has been so long since there has been sanity involved in top level politics that there is probably very little that can be "fixed" in one attempt. Chances are almost all of this stuff is going to need more than one correction before they get it right. You can't do it all at once or you wake up too many of the people who have slices of that pie that would put at risk,and then they would give you trouble. You have to do it a little at a time so that by the time they feel threatened,it's already too late for them to keep what they had.

WAAAAY too many back door "handshake" "if you cover my back on this one,I will cover your back on that one." agreements made between the old-time pols to be too bold about it right off the bat. Make them think they are just giving up a little,and they won't be exposed as the crooks they are if they stay quiet about "THIS one little thing".

With any luck at all we can have a totally different congress a new Republican president candidate will be running with in 2024. We can't get there unless we do something,though. You have to inspire new blood to run for Congress or the game is up.
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #120 on: September 05, 2019, 05:11:54 pm »
I just don't get the people who openly subordinate core principles of liberty [...]

My EXACT argument against Tump and Tumpsters.

Let's not pretend that there is any defense of core principles of liberty going on here.
There is not a single principle being defended. Not a one.

[...] yet they claim to be a conservative? Then it’s time for them to re-think their assumptions about whose side they’re on.

There is nothing conservative about this administration. NOTHING. Name a single conservative principle being defended. Give me ONE THING, ONE Conservative gain that we actually get to keep!

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The moment is now. For whatever reasons, this president, Donald Trump, has flushed out socialists and Marxists among us and has brought this battle of competing ideas to a head.

Time to choose wisely, nevers.

What a ridiculous load of crap. There is nothing to choose.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #121 on: September 05, 2019, 05:19:31 pm »
It's really not about the man but ideals, I've supported Reagan, Bush, Bush, Trump.  All have been vilified, almost all presidential candidates even are vilified. I think eventually, some of what Bush 43 did, I disagreed with heavily. Now, we have the budget issue but that's about all. Leaders have to lead, lead for all Americans.

The horrible war in Iraq got about 20 times worse under Obama imo. to salvage that awful conflict alone is worth the vote if nothing else.

Now, let's go back to Bush 43, in ways, I'd say he became almost open-borders. That is totally diametrically opposed to what I'd want, no disappointments like that.

The left throws out "alt-right" and worse adjectives to describe the right. I can see how some neutrals could look at some accusations and wonder if they want to be associated with that, that does make some sense. Though, those kinds of people are minuscule in relations to total voters for the President.

The president may say some things and again, some cringe at that, this is understandable or say that he has had these multiple marriages, things like this. The president is not perfect certainly.
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #122 on: September 05, 2019, 05:24:55 pm »
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Let's not pretend that there is any defense of core principles of liberty going on here.
There is not a single principle being defended. Not a one.

Before I respond to that @roamer_1, would you be so kind as to lay out what you believe the core principles of liberty to be?
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #123 on: September 05, 2019, 05:26:27 pm »
Before I respond to that @roamer_1, would you be so kind as to lay out what you believe the core principles of liberty to be?

@Bigun
The very same as the principles of Conservatism.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #124 on: September 05, 2019, 05:26:31 pm »
Actually, if you check my posts I have never called myself a NT.

That designation has been lavished on me by those who despise the fact that I won’t fold on centuries old values and hate me for it.

All the more reason you shouldn't have taken offense at this article.