Author Topic: Trump Clearly Feels Betrayed By Latest Fox Poll: â€˜I Donâ€™t Know Whatâ€™s Happeningâ€™ (Read 1459 times)

mystery-ak · « **on:** August 19, 2019, 01:50:17 pm »

By Nicole Lafond
August 19, 2019 8:13 am

President Trumpâ€™s increasing vexation toward his favorite cable news network reached a new height over the weekend when he expressed genuine disbelief over Fox Newsâ€™ latest poll, which featured him losing by head-to-head match up against four top Democrats.

While speaking to reporters on Sunday, Trump said â€œI donâ€™t know whatâ€™s happening with Fox,â€ when asked about the poll and said he didnâ€™t â€œbelieveâ€ them.

â€œFox is different, thereâ€™s no question about it,â€ he said, before adding heâ€™s the one â€œcalling the shotsâ€ on whether thereâ€™d be general election debates, according to a transcript of the remarks.

The Fox News poll, which was released Thursday, showed Trump losing to top candidates like Sens. Bernie Sanders (D-VT), Kamala Harris (D-CA), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and former Vice President Joe Biden. As a longtime Fox News supporter, the honeymoon between the President and his once-favorite network has started to fade in recent months as Fox releases its own polling highlighting the Presidentâ€™s 2020 chances and his approval ratings.

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txradioguy · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2019, 01:58:52 pm »

Well....

Jazzhead · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2019, 02:03:34 pm »

This should be no surprise, whether the poll is coming from Fox, Quinnipiac, the WSJ or any other reputable polling outfit. Trump's chances for re-election are not good, and neither are the chances of the Senate remaining GOP with Trump as the nominee. The sooner that Trump and his supporters and allies, and conservatives and others who are concerned about our next President winning on a platform of socialism and identity politics, recognize that reality, the sooner something constructive can be done about it.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2019, 02:05:46 pm »

Quote from: txradioguy on August 19, 2019, 01:58:52 pm

Well....

Yeah...

skeeter · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2019, 02:10:38 pm »

Oh Noes.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2019, 07:00:03 pm »

Did he "lash out?" Was he "strident?" Did he "angrily Tweet?"

No headline would be complete without one of those.

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2019, 07:14:52 pm »

I think he will win.
Who answers polls?
Only those with enough time to be bothered with it.
Also, factor in that some people who support Trump fear public backlash, and won't say so publicly.
Rightly so, look how the media portrays Trump supports specifically, and Republicans, generally.

Wingnut · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2019, 07:36:20 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 19, 2019, 07:00:03 pm

Did he "lash out?" Was he "strident?" Did he "angrily Tweet?"

No headline would be complete without one of those.

edpc · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2019, 08:33:51 pm »

Iâ€™m not sure what heâ€™s upset about. He received 46.1% of the vote in 2016. His ubiquitousness and histrionics keep his approval below the 50% mark.

Absalom · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2019, 10:58:15 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on August 19, 2019, 02:03:34 pm

This should be no surprise, whether the poll is coming from Fox, Quinnipiac, the WSJ or any other reputable polling outfit. Trump's chances for re-election are not good, and neither are the chances of the Senate remaining GOP with Trump as the nominee. The sooner that Trump and his supporters and allies, and conservatives and others who are concerned about our next President winning on a platform of socialism and identity politics, recognize that reality, the sooner something constructive can be done about it.

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Intuitive and on the mark.
Compulsive narcissists, such as Trump, can't/won't accept
that their behavior and impulses wear out their welcome, as
time passes, so all that is left are their brainwashed sycophants.
It's hardly a surprise that Trump is angry and shocked.
A competent party would now be considering a replacement!

rustynail · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2019, 11:12:04 pm »

The walls....

Chosen Daughter · « **Reply #11 on:** August 20, 2019, 01:36:29 am »

Quote from: Absalom on August 19, 2019, 10:58:15 pm

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Intuitive and on the mark.
Compulsive narcissists, such as Trump, can't/won't accept
that their behavior and impulses wear out their welcome, as
time passes, so all that is left are their brainwashed sycophants.
It's hardly a surprise that Trump is angry and shocked.
A competent party would now be considering a replacement!

Well he's saying stupid stuff like 3rd and 4th terms. Liberal heads expoloding in 321. I think my head is exploding. And people don't like their right to bear arms messed with. And if he had military support he might as well kiss it goodbye with red flag.

Axeslinger · « **Reply #12 on:** August 20, 2019, 01:44:25 am »

Quote from: Absalom on August 19, 2019, 10:58:15 pm

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Intuitive and on the mark.
Compulsive narcissists, such as Trump, can't/won't accept
that their behavior and impulses wear out their welcome, as
time passes, so all that is left are their brainwashed sycophants.
It's hardly a surprise that Trump is angry and shocked.
A competent party would now be considering a replacement!

Pretty sure Iâ€™ve met one or two of those around these parts

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #13 on:** August 20, 2019, 01:55:45 am »

Quote from: Axeslinger on August 20, 2019, 01:44:25 am

Pretty sure Iâ€™ve met one or two of those around these parts

...or three.

DB · « **Reply #14 on:** August 20, 2019, 01:58:01 am »

The simple truth is Trump won because Hillary is widely disliked splitting her own party.

The Dems will be hard pressed to come up with another candidate that has such high negatives.

Bush II brought us Obama.

Trump will bring us ?

My guess is something even worse.

jafo2010 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 20, 2019, 01:59:29 am »

Despite opposition from both the Democommies and the Republicans, Trump has managed to accomplish more in this hostile environment than any president in my 65 years. On top of this, the corrupt media has worked concertedly to destroy this president, and he spits in their face.

I think the 2016 election proved just how meaningless polls are. When one considers the source, most media, or groups like Pew, which is funded heavily by George Soros, it is no wonder Trump waves a hand through the air as if it all is meaningless. I do not blame him.

Joe Biden is the leader on the Dems side. Does anyone on this site actually believe this fool will be the Dem's nominee? Really? And anyone believing Harris will make it past Iowa, please!

Trump with all his warts is a light year ahead of any of these clown car Democommies. Pure nonsense. I fully expect Trump will roll over any of these Democommie morons with his hands tied behind his back. These polls represent the level of desperation of the liberals.

libertybele · « **Reply #16 on:** August 20, 2019, 02:01:17 am »

Well, let's see Mr. President, why you just might be losing your popularity; proposed red flag laws, runaway deficit, and no border wall. Did I mention most economists are predicting a recession before 2021? Oh, but hey, you're cringe worthy comment that we had no choice but to vote for you, sure set us straight!

Bigun · « **Reply #17 on:** August 20, 2019, 02:10:58 am »

Quote from: DB on August 20, 2019, 01:58:01 am

The simple truth is Trump won because Hillary is widely disliked splitting her own party.

The Dems will be hard pressed to come up with another candidate that has such high negatives.

Bush II brought us Obama.

Trump will bring us ?

My guess is something even worse.

That is undoubtedly why he won in 2016 but won't be why he wins in 2020.

jafo2010 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 20, 2019, 02:24:04 am »

I have zero love for the Clintons, but Hillary was a better candidate in 2016 and would make a better candidate in 2020 than anyone presently running on the Democommie side. While she lost the election with the ONLY metric that matters, the Electoral College, she did get 3 million more popular votes than Trump. And while she has not announced....YET...should she announce in Sept/Oct as I expect her to do, she will easily take the lead in the Dem nomination and suck every molecule out of Biden's campaign as well as others.

HRC is the only Democommie that stands a chance against Trump, and the polls are not worth used TP.

Buttboy just said to Jake Tapper that anyone voting for Trump is turning their back to recognizing the racism. Keep this stupidity up for the next 1.5 years, and Trump will win by double digits! Count on it!

Chosen Daughter · « **Reply #19 on:** August 20, 2019, 02:28:31 am »

Quote from: jafo2010 on August 20, 2019, 02:24:04 am

I have zero love for the Clintons, but Hillary was a better candidate in 2016 and would make a better candidate in 2020 than anyone presently running on the Democommie side. While she lost the election with the ONLY metric that matters, the Electoral College, she did get 3 million more popular votes than Trump. And while she has not announced....YET...should she announce in Sept/Oct as I expect her to do, she will easily take the lead in the Dem nomination and suck every molecule out of Biden's campaign as well as others.

HRC is the only Democommie that stands a chance against Trump, and the polls are not worth used TP.

Buttboy just said to Jake Tapper that anyone voting for Trump is turning their back to recognizing the racism. Keep this stupidity up for the next 1.5 years, and Trump will win by double digits! Count on it!

Don't call Buttigiege butt boy. Trump thinks he's great!

Victoria33 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 20, 2019, 02:32:20 am »

Quote from: txradioguy on August 19, 2019, 01:58:52 pm

Well....

@txradioguy

Trump said, "Fox is different, thereâ€™s no question about it,â€ he said, before adding heâ€™s the one â€œcalling the shotsâ€ on whether thereâ€™d be general election debates, according to a transcript of the remarks."

We have seen Trump dump on everyone/everything at some time because he/she/it is not him and only he is perfect. He says all the time only he can do "whatever". If he honors someone or something with his praise, it will not last, as again, they are not perfect like he is and he has to find a reason to state publicly why they are below him.

Now, Fox had a poll he did not like - so he says, "Fox is different" meaning Fox has changed.

Then he threatens them with not having a presidential debate on their channel, saying, "heâ€™s the one 'calling the shots' on whether thereâ€™d be general election debates."

His message to Fox is, do it my way, only praise for me and no polls showing I am less than the other candidates OR I will not let you have a presidential debate on Fox.

He would do that to the whole country if he could - do it my way or I hurt you.

Jazzhead · « **Reply #21 on:** August 20, 2019, 02:41:25 am »

Quote from: DB on August 20, 2019, 01:58:01 am

The simple truth is Trump won because Hillary is widely disliked splitting her own party.

The Dems will be hard pressed to come up with another candidate that has such high negatives.

Bush II brought us Obama.

Trump will bring us ?

My guess is something even worse.

My guess is along the same lines. Policy, well and convincingly expressed, favors Republicans. The economy, still, favors the Republicans. Yet Trump is likely to lose, and lose the Senate with him. The reason is very much the same as you state was the case in '16 - the Dems nominated a terrible, polarizing candidate. And we are expected to careen down the road we are on, and provide the President with his coronation.

Knowing this a full 14 months out from the election, is there really nothing we can do about it? Who will turn the wheel and avoid the ditch?

Absalom · « **Reply #22 on:** August 20, 2019, 03:52:49 am »

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 20, 2019, 01:36:29 am

Well he's saying stupid stuff like 3rd and 4th terms. Liberal heads expoloding in 321. I think my head is exploding. And people don't like their right to bear arms messed with. And if he had military support he might as well kiss it goodbye with red flag.

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Reflect if you will.
Those in control have authority, yet just as importantly, responsibility to discern behavior
and change it when necessary, for the betterment of the individual.
Trump's Mother labeled him incorrigible at 12 years and sent sent him to Military School
because of her experience w/him and hardly out of spite.
Now consider the FOX message from those polls: You need to change your actions and behavior.
Then consider Trump's reaction: anger, bitterness, chagrin, exasperation, frustration, hostility.
Does his Fan Club grasp why he was labeled incorrigible, because an increasing majority of
voters completely understand!!!!!

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #23 on:** August 20, 2019, 04:08:25 am »

We got 'im now!^Â®

Applewood · « **Reply #24 on:** August 20, 2019, 11:20:57 am »

Funny how polls are fine when they are favorable, but meaningless when they are not favorable. I guess the honeymoon between Trump and Fox is over.

Polls are generally meaningless, especially more than a year away from the 2020 general election. And I believe most polls are rigged in some way to produce a certain desired result. So I don't trust any of them at any time.

That said, I do believe there is an undercurrent of dissatisfaction with Trump and that could unfavorably impact his chances for success next year. Running around the country preaching to the faithful is not going to help him win. He needs to win over others outside his loyal band of supporters -- independents, undecideds, those who voted for him in 2016 but are disillusioned. and maybe even some Democrats dissatisfied with the all the radicals and losers vying form the Dem nomination.

I'd like to think if Trump could pull off one of the major promises he made in 20116, that might work. Curbing illegal immigration for sure would win many over. But he lost his chance when the Dems took back the House, so I don't see any major last-minute surprise coming that might put him over the top. And if he goes along with any infringement of the Second Amendment or his trade war has a major impact on even his faithful followers, Trump can kiss re-election goodbye.