Elizabeth Warren plans include using tax code to deprive law-abiding citizens of 2nd Amendment right

[Elderberry]

Legal Insurrection by Fuzzy Slippers August 11, 2019

Proposal includes: taxes on guns and ammo, federal gun licensing program, raising age for gun purchases nationally to 21.

    CNN reports:

Sen. Elizabeth Warren has unveiled a comprehensive plan to reduce gun violence by enacting a suite of new restrictions on buyers, cracking down on sellers and breaking “the (National Rifle Association’s) stranglehold on Congress” with anti-corruption legislation.

    The proposal arrives as more than 15 Democratic primary candidates prepare to take turns speaking at a gun safety forum in Des Moines, Iowa, and a week after the mass shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio.

    “The next President has a moral obligation to use whatever executive authority she has to address the gun crisis,” Warren writes in a Medium post. “But it is obvious that executive action is not enough. Durable reform requires legislation — but right now legislation is impossible. Why? A virulent mix of corruption and abuse of power.”

Vox reports:

Less than a week after mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, Sen. Elizabeth Warren has released one of the most sweeping gun policy proposals of the Democratic presidential candidates. And she’s set a big objective for the plan: to get US gun deaths down by 80 percent.

    . . . .  Her proposal begins with executive actions to expand background checks, close loopholes in current gun laws, and target gun traffickers and licensed gun dealers who break the law. She proposes sweeping legislation, including universal background checks and an assault weapons ban but also a system requiring a license to buy and own guns as well as urban gun violence intervention programs.

    She also vows to revisit the issue of guns every year, “adding new ideas and tweaking existing ones based on new data — to continually reduce the number of gun deaths in America.”

Yes, you read that right, part of her proposal includes a mandatory federal “gun licensing” program, a program we all know would mean a federal database of all legal gun owners.

Vox continues:

    On the legislative side, Warren’s plan includes universal background checks and an assault weapons ban, paired with a ban on high-capacity magazines. It also aims to repeal more loopholes in existing gun laws, end special legal protections for gun companies, improve oversight of gun dealers, and raise the minimum age for gun sales to 21.

    But she also proposes policies that go further than Democrats have generally gone, at least before 2020. For one, she proposes a federal system that would require everyone obtain a license to own and buy a gun. She would pair that with the mandatory registration of guns — essentially requiring, like cars, license and registration. It’s a system the research shows can reduce gun deaths more effectively than simple background checks, and a key reason why Warren’s home state of Massachusetts, with a similar system at the state level, has the lowest gun death rate in the country.

    Warren also proposes a one-week waiting period for firearm purchases and a higher tax on gun manufacturers. And with her assault weapons ban, she proposes a program that would force current assault weapon owners — with the threat of penalties — to dispose or register the guns.

More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-plans-include-using-tax-code-to-deprive-law-abiding-citizens-of-2nd-amendment-rights/

[libertybele]

Legal Insurrection by Fuzzy Slippers August 11, 2019

Proposal includes: taxes on guns and ammo, federal gun licensing program, raising age for gun purchases nationally to 21.

    CNN reports:

Sen. Elizabeth Warren has unveiled a comprehensive plan to reduce gun violence by enacting a suite of new restrictions on buyers, cracking down on sellers and breaking “the (National Rifle Association’s) stranglehold on Congress” with anti-corruption legislation.

    The proposal arrives as more than 15 Democratic primary candidates prepare to take turns speaking at a gun safety forum in Des Moines, Iowa, and a week after the mass shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio.

    “The next President has a moral obligation to use whatever executive authority she has to address the gun crisis,” Warren writes in a Medium post. “But it is obvious that executive action is not enough. Durable reform requires legislation — but right now legislation is impossible. Why? A virulent mix of corruption and abuse of power.”

Vox reports:

Less than a week after mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, Sen. Elizabeth Warren has released one of the most sweeping gun policy proposals of the Democratic presidential candidates. And she’s set a big objective for the plan: to get US gun deaths down by 80 percent.

    . . . .  Her proposal begins with executive actions to expand background checks, close loopholes in current gun laws, and target gun traffickers and licensed gun dealers who break the law. She proposes sweeping legislation, including universal background checks and an assault weapons ban but also a system requiring a license to buy and own guns as well as urban gun violence intervention programs.

    She also vows to revisit the issue of guns every year, “adding new ideas and tweaking existing ones based on new data — to continually reduce the number of gun deaths in America.”

Yes, you read that right, part of her proposal includes a mandatory federal “gun licensing” program, a program we all know would mean a federal database of all legal gun owners.

Vox continues:

    On the legislative side, Warren’s plan includes universal background checks and an assault weapons ban, paired with a ban on high-capacity magazines. It also aims to repeal more loopholes in existing gun laws, end special legal protections for gun companies, improve oversight of gun dealers, and raise the minimum age for gun sales to 21.

    But she also proposes policies that go further than Democrats have generally gone, at least before 2020. For one, she proposes a federal system that would require everyone obtain a license to own and buy a gun. She would pair that with the mandatory registration of guns — essentially requiring, like cars, license and registration. It’s a system the research shows can reduce gun deaths more effectively than simple background checks, and a key reason why Warren’s home state of Massachusetts, with a similar system at the state level, has the lowest gun death rate in the country.

    Warren also proposes a one-week waiting period for firearm purchases and a higher tax on gun manufacturers. And with her assault weapons ban, she proposes a program that would force current assault weapon owners — with the threat of penalties — to dispose or register the guns.

More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/08/elizabeth-warren-plans-include-using-tax-code-to-deprive-law-abiding-citizens-of-2nd-amendment-rights/

Her assault on the 2nd amendment, gun owners, gun manufacturers will cause a Revolution in this country.

Her plan to revisit legislation every year only means that she will eventually completely destroy the 2nd amendment and ALL amendments along with it.

She wants socialism and the only way that she and others can bring this Republic down is to seize weapons.

So who is going to be worse for the 2nd amendment?  Her or Trump??  Really hard to tell at this point.  God help this Country.

[txradioguy]

If you tax something excessively...less people will buy it...meaning profits go down.

There won't be any money to fund her stupid programs.

Math is hard eh Liz?

[txradioguy]

Her assault on the 2nd amendment, gun owners, gun manufacturers will cause a Revolution in this country.

Her plan to revisit legislation every year only means that she will eventually completely destroy the 2nd amendment and ALL amendments along with it.

She wants socialism and the only way that she and others can bring this Republic down is to seize weapons.

So who is going to be worse for the 2nd amendment?  Her or Trump??  Really hard to tell at this point.  God help this Country.

@libertybele and yet we're the ones that get branded extremists.

[Cyber Liberty]

@libertybele and yet we're the ones that get branded extremists.

That was a new low, even for him.  Me?  Just because I'm through splitting loaves with Democrats.  I want my whole loaf back.

[Victoria33]

If you tax something excessively...less people will buy it...meaning profits go down.
There won't be any money to fund her stupid programs.
Math is hard eh Liz?

@txradioguy

"would force current assault weapon owners — with the threat of penalties — to dispose or register the guns."

There it is, the Feds would have even current gun owners register the guns.

There is another problem with this, the definition of "assault weapon".  What would be the definition and what keeps them from adding more various type guns to this once it passed?

There could be a Democrat president, a Democrat controlled House and Senate and there goes all guns must be registered or they are taken away.

The present voter numbers report of the Texas Republican Party, indicates Texas could go Democrat for president this time and a Republican president cannot be elected without the Texas number of electors.

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

"would force current assault weapon owners — with the threat of penalties — to dispose or register the guns."

There it is, the Feds would have even current gun owners register the guns.

There is another problem with this, the definition of "assault weapon".  What would be the definition and what keeps them from adding more various type guns to this once it passed?

There could be a Democrat president, a Democrat controlled House and Senate and there goes all guns must be registered or they are taken away.

The present voter numbers report of the Texas Republican Party, indicates Texas could go Democrat for president this time and a Republican president cannot be elected without the Texas number of electors.

That's a frightening thought.

[thackney]

@txradioguy

"would force current assault weapon owners — with the threat of penalties — to dispose or register the guns."

There it is, the Feds would have even current gun owners register the guns.

There is another problem with this, the definition of "assault weapon".  What would be the definition and what keeps them from adding more various type guns to this once it passed?

There could be a Democrat president, a Democrat controlled House and Senate and there goes all guns must be registered or they are taken away.

The present voter numbers report of the Texas Republican Party, indicates Texas could go Democrat for president this time and a Republican president cannot be elected without the Texas number of electors.

Heck, even the Canadians were unwilling to comply to the point the government gave up.  It will not happen here.

[austingirl]

Her assault on the 2nd amendment, gun owners, gun manufacturers will cause a Revolution in this country.

Her plan to revisit legislation every year only means that she will eventually completely destroy the 2nd amendment and ALL amendments along with it.

She wants socialism and the only way that she and others can bring this Republic down is to seize weapons.

So who is going to be worse for the 2nd amendment?  Her or Trump??  Really hard to tell at this point.  God help this Country.

 

[LMAO]

Well it’s a good thing Elizabeth Warren will never be president to ever enact this

It’s also a good argument for changing the tax code  and abolishing the IRS

[libertybele]

Well it’s a good thing Elizabeth Warren will never be president to ever enact this

It’s also a good argument for changing the tax code  and abolishing the IRS

I'm all for abolishing the IRS.  I'm not as confident as you that we won't see a President Warren.  She has the momentum and certainly her party has been grooming her since Hillary lost. She will give Trump a run for his money and with all the fraud and corruption, I think we could very well see her in the oval office.

[Jazzhead]

I'm not as confident as you that we won't see a President Warren.  She has the momentum and certainly her party has been grooming her since Hillary lost. She will give Trump a run for his money and with all the fraud and corruption, I think we could very well see her in the oval office.

I agree.  All bets are off this election, which is not the normal circumstance of an incumbent President presiding over a healthy economy.   Folks are emotionally, even obsessively, invested in Trump's defeat, or vindication,  and that allows a radical Dem to slip through as most voters will be voting against a perceived enemy rather than for the candidate of their choice.   

[libertybele]

I agree.  All bets are off this election, which is not the normal circumstance of an incumbent President presiding over a healthy economy.   Folks are emotionally, even obsessively, invested in Trump's defeat, or vindication,  and that allows a radical Dem to slip through as most voters will be voting against a perceived enemy rather than for the candidate of their choice.   

Works both ways; many will perceive the radical DEMS as the enemy and could give Trump the boost he needs.

There are no certainties in this upcoming election other than the DEMS will stop at absolutely nothing to win. They're going to make the 2018 mid terms look like a cake walk in comparison to what they're going to pull in 2020.  Count on it.

[Cyber Liberty]

I agree.  All bets are off this election, which is not the normal circumstance of an incumbent President presiding over a healthy economy.   Folks are emotionally, even obsessively, invested in Trump's defeat, or vindication,  and that allows a radical Dem to slip through as most voters will be voting against a perceived enemy rather than for the candidate of their choice.   

I thought you said Trump loses, no matter what.  Did you withdraw a bet?