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Re: The Truly Insidious Nature of Red Flag Laws - KrisAnne Hall, JD
« Reply #425 on: August 14, 2019, 09:45:46 pm »
Breaking on Fox News:

Multiple officers hurt in Philadelphia shoot out.

Temple U,  drug bust gone bad, several officers hit.
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« Reply #426 on: August 14, 2019, 09:45:55 pm »
But the people who live in the hive want to make rules for those in the badlands, even though they've never seen them.

That makes me want to get on a paint pony and see what's over the rise... Pretty country.

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« Reply #427 on: August 14, 2019, 09:46:49 pm »
You mean, 'for all intensive porpoises'.  happy77 :beer:


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Re: The Truly Insidious Nature of Red Flag Laws - KrisAnne Hall, JD
« Reply #428 on: August 14, 2019, 09:46:58 pm »
Bear on your  porch? You must be crazy....say the people who live here:


That reminds me...the 'Yotes are back.
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« Reply #429 on: August 14, 2019, 09:47:46 pm »
From my perspective, you did great!  I churned some of my best material here.

 :yowsa: One of the best threads I've seen in ages.
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« Reply #430 on: August 14, 2019, 09:48:56 pm »
Beautiful country, @Smokin Joe.

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« Reply #431 on: August 14, 2019, 09:49:07 pm »
Temple U,  drug bust gone bad, several officers hit.

4 possibly 5 now wounded.
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Re: The Truly Insidious Nature of Red Flag Laws - KrisAnne Hall, JD
« Reply #432 on: August 14, 2019, 09:51:45 pm »
It just doesn't seem right to come onto a thread and take up so much of the oxygen without knowing what you're talking about.   :shrug:

It's telling we don't really know.   :shrug: :shrug:
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Re: The Truly Insidious Nature of Red Flag Laws - KrisAnne Hall, JD
« Reply #433 on: August 14, 2019, 09:53:13 pm »
:yowsa: One of the best threads I've seen in ages.

I'll have you know, I resisted "the urge" a couple times, thanks to your sound advice!  I'm learning.
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« Reply #435 on: August 14, 2019, 09:56:50 pm »
Bear on your  porch? You must be crazy....say the people who live here:


It’s exciting when you’re young and moving out to the city, and you first walk up those subway steps onto the streets of Manhattan. You’re immediately struck be the rush of people moving with urgency and purpose, the street vendors and narrow storefronts lining the avenues, the stream of yellow cabs, and the noise!

A lot of people come here with dreams of making it in New York, New York. And, if you don’t hit it big, at least you had a blast and stories to tell your grand kids.
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« Reply #436 on: August 14, 2019, 09:57:53 pm »


LOL!  :beer:

For some reason I feel like I need to salute or something.  :shrug:

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« Reply #437 on: August 14, 2019, 10:00:39 pm »
I'll have you know, I resisted "the urge" a couple times, thanks to your sound advice!  I'm learning.

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« Reply #438 on: August 14, 2019, 10:02:13 pm »
It’s exciting when you’re young and moving out to the city, and you first walk up those subway steps onto the streets of Manhattan. You’re immediately struck be the rush of people moving with urgency and purpose, the street vendors and narrow storefronts lining the avenues, the stream of yellow cabs, and the noise!

A lot of people come here with dreams of making it in New York, New York. And, if you don’t hit it big, at least you had a blast and stories to tell your grand kids.

UGH... No thanks.

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« Reply #439 on: August 14, 2019, 10:20:27 pm »
UGH... No thanks.

When I was a lad I clearly wanted out of the farm belt, and into a warm city in the South.  I knew I did not want a New York kind of a city (I'd been to Chicago several times), so I settled for Phoenix Suburbia where I could get a good job.

That era is O V E R.  We're on the far edge of a mid-sized city now, in our own Castle with a private bar.  The Mrs. and I love it.  Barron foothills rise above us on one side, and a view of the Casino Resorts of Laughlin below, with a range of mountains as backdrop all around.  360 degree porches, too, on both floors.  But for the 110F plus temps you would probably like it well enough.
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« Reply #440 on: August 14, 2019, 10:26:01 pm »
It’s exciting when you’re young and moving out to the city, and you first walk up those subway steps onto the streets of Manhattan. You’re immediately struck be the rush of people moving with urgency and purpose, the street vendors and narrow storefronts lining the avenues, the stream of yellow cabs, and the noise!

A lot of people come here with dreams of making it in New York, New York. And, if you don’t hit it big, at least you had a blast and stories to tell your grand kids.

I remember driving through NYC when I was 18.  Couldn't get out of there fast enough.  Different strokes.

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« Reply #441 on: August 14, 2019, 10:29:41 pm »
I remember driving through NYC when I was 18.  Couldn't get out of there fast enough.  Different strokes.

I've been there more times than I can count but never once by choice.  Unless wanting to remain gainfully employed counts as a choice.
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« Reply #442 on: August 14, 2019, 10:44:17 pm »
When I was a lad I clearly wanted out of the farm belt, and into a warm city in the South.  I knew I did not want a New York kind of a city (I'd been to Chicago several times), so I settled for Phoenix Suburbia where I could get a good job.


I was born in Chicago, came out here in 5/6th grade...  Went back a handful of times to visit, the last of which was better then 30 years ago. There is nothing at all back east for me. Not a thing.

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That era is O V E R.  We're on the far edge of a mid-sized city now, in our own Castle with a private bar.  The Mrs. and I love it.  Barron foothills rise above us on one side, and a view of the Casino Resorts of Laughlin below, with a range of mountains as backdrop all around.  360 degree porches, too, on both floors.  But for the 110F plus temps you would probably like it well enough.

I have always wanted to see the desert.The closest I came was Animas Canyon/Moab country.
Never seen an ocean either. Might could get talked into heading for Dixie, or another trip to see my kin in the southern plains... But to tell you the truth, it'd have to be the right woman to come along and pry my roots out of this rocky ground. I'm in God's Country, and if I never get 100 miles from right here, that'd suit me fine.

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Re: The Truly Insidious Nature of Red Flag Laws - KrisAnne Hall, JD
« Reply #443 on: August 14, 2019, 10:48:37 pm »
I was born in Chicago, came out here in 5/6th grade...  Went back a handful of times to visit, the last of which was better then 30 years ago. There is nothing at all back east for me. Not a thing.

I have always wanted to see the desert.The closest I came was Animas Canyon/Moab country.
Never seen an ocean either. Might could get talked into heading for Dixie, or another trip to see my kin in the southern plains... But to tell you the truth, it'd have to be the right woman to come along and pry my roots out of this rocky ground. I'm in God's Country, and if I never get 100 miles from right here, that'd suit me fine.

I've lived in the desert purt near 40 years now, and it agrees with me and the Missus.  I saw the Ocean Sunday on our travels to San Diego/Orange Counties.  I never lived by the ocean, but the Missus did for a long time.  I asked her the other day if she misses it, and she said, "No, it's boring.  Mountains are exciting."  She misses the family there, which we rectified last weekend.

ETA:  Until a year ago, I lived in the Sonoran Desert, now I'm in the Mojave Desert.  Two different natural worlds.
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Re: The Truly Insidious Nature of Red Flag Laws - KrisAnne Hall, JD
« Reply #444 on: August 14, 2019, 11:24:21 pm »
It’s exciting when you’re young and moving out to the city, and you first walk up those subway steps onto the streets of Manhattan. You’re immediately struck be the rush of people moving with urgency and purpose, the street vendors and narrow storefronts lining the avenues, the stream of yellow cabs, and the noise!

A lot of people come here with dreams of making it in New York, New York. And, if you don’t hit it big, at least you had a blast and stories to tell your grand kids.
Yeah, I enjoyed my visit in '74, up on the Empire State Building, seeing who could spot the most hookers for a dime in the telescopes...

But live there? No thanks, no way. I really like being able to see the stars (celestial) at night.
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« Reply #445 on: August 14, 2019, 11:34:42 pm »
Yeah, I enjoyed my visit in '74, up on the Empire State Building, seeing who could spot the most hookers for a dime in the telescopes...

But live there? No thanks, no way. I really like being able to see the stars (celestial) at night.

A neat feature in my new Castle.  In Phoenix, I could not see the Milky Way at all, nor the vast majority of the stars.  I see them now.
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« Reply #446 on: August 15, 2019, 12:39:59 am »
We've had our share of screw ups and misfits...happens even in a professional army...but for the most part we're still the best around...there's more than a few old school guys like me left around that are teaching these new kids what right looks like.

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I am sure of that. All military units are what they are based on the leadership ability of the commanding officer,and the command Sergeant-Major. If the CO is a slacker just filling time while waiting for a hand-picked "slot to the stars" to open up for him,chances are it's like the ones I described.

If it is one of those units that has a hard-charger at the top who cares more about training and readiness than he does sucking up and flying to DC on weekends,chances are it is a good unit.

The last conventional unit I was in was a NG Signal unit out of Texas stationed at Nha Trang. I was sent there because when I reported into the SFOB at Nha Trang in 68, I had a dislocated shoulder and a pulled muscle in my back. If I had already been signed in,it wouldn't have been a problem,but they couldn't keep me with those profiles. 90 days later my profile ended,and SGM Odom send a driver over in a jeep to pick me up,and I was happy again. There was not ONE SINGLE NCO or Officer in that unit that wasn't a slacker piece of crap,hiding out in that signal company to pull their VN tour while making certain they were never exposed to fire.  I got into a dust-up with a 1st Lt one day because I spotted his infantry insignia on his lapel,and asked him why he was there instead of a line unit. I was honestly curious,but he thought I was screwing with him and threatened to beat my ass if I ever asked him something like that again.  He came to regret that within seconds. Luckily for me,I had witnesses to being threatened with violence by him,so he couldn't do squat. I didn't even hurt the SOB. I just scared him a little. Come to find out he came from a political family in Texas,and they used their influence to make sure "Precious" served his tour like the hero he was,but never had to go on patrols.

My job there was a the company armorer. I had been trained as a communications center specialist right after basic,but had never even been close to a com center since graduating from Signal School and going to jump school. Since I was useless for anything else,they made me the company armorer. M-14's locked away in rifle racks in squad bays,and the ammo and mags were in a munitions bunker nearby. I was the only enlisted swine in the company with the keys to the ammo bunker. The rest of the guys would get on a bus in the morning or in the evening,depending on their shift,and ride to a commo center downtown to work their 12 hour shifts before coming back to the barracks.

It was like serving time. I really didn't have anything to do,and was bored out of my mind. Because of this I spent most of my time over at the SFOB,drinking in the Delta or Recondo Club bars,and reminding SGM Odom that I needed a new home. One of the happiest days of my life was when that MSG showed up in that jeep with orders returning me to the 5th.

The US Army is one of the greatest jobs in the world if you are working with professionals,but sucks beyond all belief if you are in a unit populated with NCO's and officers who are clowns just trying to put in their 20 while doing the absolute minimum.
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« Reply #447 on: August 15, 2019, 12:44:54 am »
Advise them that the order is one that appears for all tense and purposes to be an unlawful order and that they were not under any obligation to carry it out.  I'd tell them to do what they think their conscience can handle and that any decision from that point forward was their to make...but I personally would not make them carry out that order under any circumstances.

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« Reply #448 on: August 15, 2019, 12:49:41 am »
Yep! And the chance of doing so with an accurate rifle is far better than with a pistol, especially over 25 yards.And that semiautomatic? "large" magazines? Well, suppressive fire can give someone the opportunity to drag a wounded person out of harm's way. It can make the difference between life and death.

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For any of you who don't know,"suppressive fire" is weapons fire aimed in the general direction of the enemy regardless of if they can be seen,or not. It's purpose is to make them keep their heads down and not fire at your troops as they maneuver to advance on the enemy forces,retrieve wounded left laying in the open,etc,etc,etc.

Truth to tell,there seems to be damn little aimed fire once the cork pops and the party starts.
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« Reply #449 on: August 15, 2019, 12:51:45 am »
Nobody really needs a gun... AmIRight?  *****rollingeyes*****


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