So what are you suggesting, that we lie to them and tell them that we can?
If you go by the media and bullshit politicians of many stripes, then your premise of "losing, badly" in the debate may be true.
But you keep forgetting, Rights aren't up for debate.
The deaths of innocents come from the sickness in our society and the breakdown of the civil society.
@Right_in_Virginia
I'm not suggesting we lie to anyone
@EdJames because I'm convinced we could have stopped the killer in Florida and Dayton. I'm not saying we can stop all ... but damn it, man, why wouldn't we be supportive of stopping even one? Again .... if rights aren't up for debate then this includes the right to life.
Why wouldn't we want to stand as the people who want to stop the killing .... really stop the killing? I repeat myself but red flag laws pave the way for a discussion and action on our failing mental health care, the importance (not the breakdown) of the family unit, fathers working with mothers, limiting the internet for developing hearts, minds and souls, working with community leaders and faith leaders .... the list is endless and each item on the list addresses the root cause of the carnage.
And you know what, Ed ... we will have changed the focus of the conversation from guns to the quality of our collective lives. Take this as an opportunity not to defend guns but to defend life and your guns and the natural right to own them will be safe.
The democrats know this -- which is why they are so damn determined to include further gun control in the legislation being debated. THEY know if we change the dialogue, they lose.