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Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« on: August 02, 2019, 08:05:18 pm »
Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History

Prior to the Senate vote on the two-year budget deal arranged by President Trump and the congressional leadership, Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) spoke on the Senate floor saying, “This may well be the most fiscally irresponsible thing we’ve done in the history of the United States.”

The deal, which passed the House last week and the Senate on Aug. 1, will increase discretionary federal spending by $320 billion and allow the federal government to borrow an unlimited amount of money until July 31, 2021...........

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mark-jennings/sen-paul-budget-deal-may-be-most-fiscally-irresponsible-thing-weve-done
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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2019, 08:19:43 pm »
Of course, he is right....

A good example of how "pragmatism" can be so destructive....

 **nononono*
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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2019, 08:28:19 pm »
Quote from: EdJames on August 02, 2019, 08:19:43 pm
Of course, he is right....

A good example of how "pragmatism" can be so destructive....

 **nononono*

This budget allow the feds unlimited borrowing until 2021 --- well after the next election.   **nononono*
« Last Edit: August 02, 2019, 08:29:39 pm by libertybele »
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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2019, 08:33:52 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on August 02, 2019, 08:28:19 pm
This budget gives unlimited funding until 2021 -- which if Trump doesn't win in 2020, the DEMS will also have access to an open wallet.

Well, the unlimited part is the amount that can be borrowed, since they extended the bizarre construct of "suspending" the debt limit until July of 2021...  how long has it been since they've been practicing this particular bit of chicanery?  I would have to look it up, but I wouldn't be surprised if we are going on close to 10 years now...

Remember when they used to actually vote to raise the debt limit to a particular dollar amount?  And how it was often used as a tool to get some decent measures enacted?

Then they decided that rather than go through all of that messiness, they would just vote to "suspend" (i.e., pretend that it doesn't exist) the debt limit to some future date.  I'm pretty sure that zero was in the WH and Boehner was Speaker, the first time they devised this stupidity....

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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2019, 10:31:50 pm »
Nice to see Cruz in dissent for a change.
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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2019, 11:30:59 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 02, 2019, 10:31:50 pm
Nice to see Cruz in dissent for a change.

indeed.

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) today issued the following statement after voting against the budget agreement:

"This budget deal is yet another missed opportunity to rein in excessive government spending. While I am pleased to see increased funding for our national defense and our men and women in uniform, unfortunately this bill perpetuates Democrats' big government programs, increases our deficits, and plunges us further into debt. Instead of running up bills we can't pay, we should be fighting for the American people's common sense priorities such as securing our southern border, cutting taxes, and reducing regulations."

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=4615
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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2019, 01:20:21 am »
"Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History"

Well...
At least until the NEXT one gets passed....!
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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2019, 02:17:20 am »
   IMHO, Sen. Cruz traded his last budget vote (his first in 6 years) for a Trump Rally in Houston. 
   That turd needs a lot of polish to shine again.
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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2019, 02:31:40 am »
Er........................ EMPHATICALLY NO!!!
The most reckless thing we have ever done is enter WW1;
a conflict that had absolutely nothing to do w/us.
Its consequences changed the world forever for the worse
and we pay the price for that decision every present moment.
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Re: Sen. Paul: Budget Deal May Be ‘Most Fiscally Irresponsible Thing We’ve Done’ in U.S. History
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2019, 02:40:22 am »
Quote from: corbe on August 03, 2019, 02:17:20 am
   IMHO, Sen. Cruz traded his last budget vote (his first in 6 years) for a Trump Rally in Houston. 
   That turd needs a lot of polish to shine again.

That's right. Went from a high 90s score down into the low 80's  following Tumpy the Clown around.
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