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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #500 on: August 03, 2019, 07:27:14 pm »
Ooooo............. I want off that one too!

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Doesn't everybody?

The only solution may be for Admin to lock the thread,but that can be an ugly door to open and a VERY clunky way to run a railroad.
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #501 on: August 03, 2019, 07:29:16 pm »
Hey, not all is lost.  I got out of this thread what seems to be an awesome Tuna Noodle Casserole recipe -- but still waiting to find out what kind of homemade bread is going to be served -- or did I miss it??   :shrug:

I prefer the honey whole wheat with tuna. 

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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #502 on: August 03, 2019, 07:34:00 pm »
I prefer the honey whole wheat with tuna.

Sounds wonderful!  happy77
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #503 on: August 03, 2019, 07:34:15 pm »
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Doesn't everybody?

The only solution may be for Admin to lock the thread,but that can be an ugly door to open and a VERY clunky way to run a railroad.

   Knowing now how a few Briefers feel about MY Thread (Share what you are listening to now), If you delete it, again, @sneakypete I won't bitch to the Admin, this time.
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #504 on: August 03, 2019, 07:43:48 pm »
   Knowing now how a few Briefers feel about MY Thread (Share what you are listening to now), If you delete it, again, @sneakypete I won't bitch to the Admin, this time.

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Huh? I have never deleted a thread in my life. Or asked for one to be deleted. I WOULD like a software solution to this problem that allows us all to unsubscribe from any thread we are no longer interested in,though.

Sometimes you just get burnt-out on something and need to take a break. That doesn't mean you might not want the ability to go back to it at some later time. If it is deleted,neither you nor anyone else will have that ability.

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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #505 on: August 03, 2019, 07:45:48 pm »
Isn't that the essence of every political forum?  Standing up for what you believe in?

(The reason it's "never ending," is that some folks who once claimed to believe in the same things no longer do and argue against Conservatism).

That sounds like a very limited and pessimistic view of a "political forum."

Everyday there are dozens and dozens of threads posted, many with new information, new topics on events that are unfolding in the present.  Many of them have implications for what will be happening in the near and distant future.  Most of them end up with few or no comments.

Some of the topics are extremely enlightening, some are amusing or entertaining, some are downright useless....

The reason that the dead end arguments are "never ending" is that every few days a certain thread garners an excess of attention because a handful of people spend hours and hours arguing the same tired nonsense that has zero chance of impacting reality.  A handful of votes one way or the other, spread across several states will not even be notable in a rounding error.  The given thread goes on for days....  until the same tired crap starts up again in a new thread....

As Axe noted earlier in this thread, it is insanity to have such an unhealthy interest in how some anonymous people on the Internet say that they will vote.  Who the eff cares??

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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #506 on: August 03, 2019, 07:47:12 pm »
   I understand @sneakypete and perhaps I'm being a little too sensitive.  It's all good.
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #507 on: August 03, 2019, 07:48:12 pm »
Hey, not all is lost.  I got out of this thread what seems to be an awesome Tuna Noodle Casserole recipe -- but still waiting to find out what kind of homemade bread is going to be served -- or did I miss it??   :shrug:

I agree, that recipe sounds amazing as does the @DCPatriot meatloaf recipe (although I am at loss as to why I need a gallon of sauce/gravy for those two meatloafs?)...

Worth slogging through the nonsense to get those recipes!!

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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #508 on: August 03, 2019, 07:53:35 pm »
   Knowing now how a few Briefers feel about MY Thread (Share what you are listening to now), If you delete it, again, @sneakypete I won't bitch to the Admin, this time.

@corbe, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that thread, it is quite entertaining, I enjoy it when I choose to either post in it, or listen to the tunes...

It isn't your fault that some people are too stupid to understand that they don't have to click on it, regardless of where it appears....

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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #509 on: August 03, 2019, 08:38:54 pm »

The reason that the dead end arguments are "never ending" is that every few days a certain thread garners an excess of attention because a handful of people spend hours and hours arguing the same tired nonsense that has zero chance of impacting reality.  A handful of votes one way or the other, spread across several states will not even be notable in a rounding error.  The given thread goes on for days....  until the same tired crap starts up again in a new thread....

As Axe noted earlier in this thread, it is insanity to have such an unhealthy interest in how some anonymous people on the Internet say that they will vote.  Who the eff cares??


Come on, man.   That's not the issue at all.

It's about calling narcissists out, who think THEIR vote is 'special'.

...who won't even admit/recognize that we're down to "Trump's GOP" vs "The Left that would love to see you Dead"

...yet still whine like the little beotches they are because the GOP isn't cutting costs and reducing the deficit/debt (2 separate things)

We don't appreciate that kind of pontification of sorts...and frankly it's pornographic.    :2popcorn:
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #510 on: August 03, 2019, 08:41:34 pm »
I agree, that recipe sounds amazing as does the @DCPatriot meatloaf recipe (although I am at loss as to why I need a gallon of sauce/gravy for those two meatloafs?)...

Worth slogging through the nonsense to get those recipes!!

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It's two cups of ketchup to 4 cups of water....not quarts.

Plus, the sauce cooks down and thickens.  I use a porcelain turkey roasting pan.  Covered.   
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #511 on: August 03, 2019, 08:45:55 pm »
Come on, man.   That's not the issue at all.

It's about calling narcissists out, who think THEIR vote is 'special'.

...who won't even admit/recognize that we're down to "Trump's GOP" vs "The Left that would love to see you Dead"

...yet still whine like the little beotches they are because the GOP isn't cutting costs and reducing the deficit/debt (2 separate things)

We don't appreciate that kind of pontification of sorts...and frankly it's pornographic.    :2popcorn:

I say, Come on, man.....  who cares? 

For those that live in states that will definitely see the EVs go to Trump in 2020....  one or two votes one way or the other aren't worth arguing about....

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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #512 on: August 03, 2019, 08:46:56 pm »
It's two cups of ketchup to 4 cups of water....not quarts.

Plus, the sauce cooks down and thickens.  I use a porcelain turkey roasting pan.  Covered.

Oh, OK, that makes sense....  when I saw the "4 quarts of water" I was like.... WTF??

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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #513 on: August 03, 2019, 08:54:41 pm »
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« Reply #514 on: August 03, 2019, 08:59:00 pm »
Oh, OK, that makes sense....  when I saw the "4 quarts of water" I was like.... WTF??

 :silly:

Thanks for catching that, @EdJames    :beer:     :laugh:
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #515 on: August 03, 2019, 09:52:05 pm »
@roamer_1

Yeah,MUCH better to give up without a fight,and the blame what happens on the people who actually voted in an effort to halt the loss of our freedoms,right?

Seems to me what you "Principled voters" (roflmao!) want most of all is to duck responsibility so you can claim it wasn't your fault when our system collapses. You are "conscientious objectors" in the war to retain and regain our freedoms. Now,being a BIG fan of personal freedoms,I don't personally give a damn if you vote or not. That does NOT mean I will sit by quietly and not point out your hypocrisy as our system is destroyed and you sit back and smugly claim "It wasn't MY fault. I had several hissy-fits,but it didn't work!"

The person that stands by and does nothing while seeing a tragedy develop and happen HAS to share guilt with the people that purposely set the tragedy in motion.
@sneakypete We aren't standing by, we just aren't joining up to contribute to the problem. Now, Halt the loss of my freedom when?

NOW I can get 10 years and a 10K fine for POSSESSING a damned gun stock, purchased legally. Not even a functioning firearm, not an integral part of the action, not an auto sear, nothing to change the mechanicals of a semi automatic rifle, but the effing STOCK?
(I don't have one, BTW, spent my money on other things.)

Yeah I'm all for halting the loss of my freedoms, but don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining Bubble Up. These things happened under Republican Administrations.
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Now, what was that bullshite about preserving my freedom? Of kicking the can down the road buying time to "defuse the bomb" (maybe someone will figure out how!), while megatons more trouble is stacked on top of it?

If this 'bomb' is going to blow up sooner or later, let's get this SOB over with while I can still hope to put up a fight, while we haven't had so much nibbled away from us by our "protectors" that we can. Before those of us who still give a shit die off of old age (yes, Virginia, the old basketball tactic of running out the clock is being played on an entire generation who better remembers what it was like to be free). Because the way this crap is going, we won't have jack, and the Republic will be crushed under the totalitarian jackboots of the Muslims, the Left, or even some from the Right, (Globalists all, just with different tailors) to the tune not of battle cries, but a sniveling whimper of some snowflake looking for their safe space. Quit playing along with the demise of this country.

It was a Republican who made sure only the Government would have access to new select-fire arms, and even the ersatz of a stock that helps people operate a semi auto more efficiently has been forbidden by the same crowd.
Only fools cheer that.
The real question ignored in all that "Winning" is whether the NFA of 1934 should exist at all, along with a slew of other laws infringing the Right, but the can has been kicked so far down the road already no one can see that.
Keep in mind the real enemies of this country don't give a flying fig about any of the laws the rest of us are constrained by, and already are at a significant advantage.
Left foot, Right foot, one side cheers what the other could never get through, and the net result is that we're still shuffling down the road to totalitarianism. Even Obama's BATF didn't ban a frigging bump stock.

The frogs are cooking just fine, but if someone turns up the heat too much, they'll jump out of the pot. Shut it down or crank it up. Anything else is just slow death to the Republic, our Liberty, our Rights, and to us all.
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #516 on: August 03, 2019, 10:00:49 pm »
I agree, that recipe sounds amazing as does the @DCPatriot meatloaf recipe (although I am at loss as to why I need a gallon of sauce/gravy for those two meatloafs?)...

Worth slogging through the nonsense to get those recipes!!

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Ha!  Thanks for the info -- I will have to go back and get @DCPatriot meatloaf recipe.
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« Reply #517 on: August 03, 2019, 10:10:40 pm »
It's two cups of ketchup to 4 cups of water....not quarts.

Plus, the sauce cooks down and thickens.  I use a porcelain turkey roasting pan.  Covered.

Sounds delish and very rich.  Will try to 1/2 the recipe though -- I loaf should be plenty for us.

Yay, I have new recipes for the coming week.  Thanks guys!!   888high58888
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« Reply #518 on: August 03, 2019, 10:18:42 pm »
Sounds delish and very rich.  Will try to 1/2 the recipe though -- I loaf should be plenty for us.

Yay, I have new recipes for the coming week.  Thanks guys!!   888high58888

Recipe has been in my family for generations...but ever since I was young, the one thing people said was that they wished they had more of the sauce for putting over mashed potatoes, and/or the slice of meatloaf.

It does evaporate off during the 90 + minutes in the roaster.

So, I always DOUBLE it (4 cups of Heintz ketchup to 8 cups of water).

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And why not "freeze" one of them?  You won't regret it.    :beer:
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #519 on: August 03, 2019, 10:52:56 pm »
@sneakypete We aren't standing by, we just aren't joining up to contribute to the problem. Now, Halt the loss of my freedom when?

NOW I can get 10 years and a 10K fine for POSSESSING a damned gun stock, purchased legally. Not even a functioning firearm, not an integral part of the action, not an auto sear, nothing to change the mechanicals of a semi automatic rifle, but the effing STOCK?
(I don't have one, BTW, spent my money on other things.)

Yeah I'm all for halting the loss of my freedoms, but don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining Bubble Up. These things happened under Republican Administrations.
@Maj. Bill Martin
Now, what was that bullshite about preserving my freedom? Of kicking the can down the road buying time to "defuse the bomb" (maybe someone will figure out how!), while megatons more trouble is stacked on top of it?

If this 'bomb' is going to blow up sooner or later, let's get this SOB over with while I can still hope to put up a fight, while we haven't had so much nibbled away from us by our "protectors" that we can. Before those of us who still give a shit die off of old age (yes, Virginia, the old basketball tactic of running out the clock is being played on an entire generation who better remembers what it was like to be free). Because the way this crap is going, we won't have jack, and the Republic will be crushed under the totalitarian jackboots of the Muslims, the Left, or even some from the Right, (Globalists all, just with different tailors) to the tune not of battle cries, but a sniveling whimper of some snowflake looking for their safe space. Quit playing along with the demise of this country.

It was a Republican who made sure only the Government would have access to new select-fire arms, and even the ersatz of a stock that helps people operate a semi auto more efficiently has been forbidden by the same crowd.
Only fools cheer that.
The real question ignored in all that "Winning" is whether the NFA of 1934 should exist at all, along with a slew of other laws infringing the Right, but the can has been kicked so far down the road already no one can see that.
Keep in mind the real enemies of this country don't give a flying fig about any of the laws the rest of us are constrained by, and already are at a significant advantage.
Left foot, Right foot, one side cheers what the other could never get through, and the net result is that we're still shuffling down the road to totalitarianism. Even Obama's BATF didn't ban a frigging bump stock.

The frogs are cooking just fine, but if someone turns up the heat too much, they'll jump out of the pot. Shut it down or crank it up. Anything else is just slow death to the Republic, our Liberty, our Rights, and to us all.

@Smokin Joe

I understand your arguments about gun control,although if it were legal and you offered me a free one,I have no use for or desire to own a full-auto weapon. I like to put each bullet where I want it to go. Yes,they are useful in combat assaults by  massed troops or in an ambush situation,but I can't see me ever going on an assault again or ambush again.

As for the rest of it,you are placing too much emphasis on Republicans. Or more accurately,alleged Republicans. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. Focus on tossing any alleged Republicans out of office in your local and state races,and THEN focus on the nationals.

BUT........ Do NOT focus on them exclusively. Focus on them at the same time you focus on getting the local and state Dims tossed out on the street.

The real problem is when it comes to the career politicians,there is damn little difference these days between the two at the national level. They have made and are making so many back room deals to help out each other and their relatives,they might as well be in the same party.

But know one thing to be a fact. If you aren't a party member and voting in all the local,state,and federal elections,you are doing nothing but committing political masturbation. It might feel good,but it ain't the same thing and nothing will come from it.
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #520 on: August 03, 2019, 11:23:00 pm »
   I understand @sneakypete and perhaps I'm being a little too sensitive.  It's all good.

Well, @corbe - I just remembered that I had a lovely conversation with dear, sweet Machiavelli about Beethoven on your thread.

So I'm glad you posted it!  happy77
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #521 on: August 03, 2019, 11:26:36 pm »
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« Reply #522 on: August 03, 2019, 11:29:39 pm »
That sounds like a very limited and pessimistic view of a "political forum."

Everyday there are dozens and dozens of threads posted, many with new information, new topics on events that are unfolding in the present.  Many of them have implications for what will be happening in the near and distant future.  Most of them end up with few or no comments.

Some of the topics are extremely enlightening, some are amusing or entertaining, some are downright useless....

The reason that the dead end arguments are "never ending" is that every few days a certain thread garners an excess of attention because a handful of people spend hours and hours arguing the same tired nonsense that has zero chance of impacting reality.  A handful of votes one way or the other, spread across several states will not even be notable in a rounding error.  The given thread goes on for days....  until the same tired crap starts up again in a new thread....

As Axe noted earlier in this thread, it is insanity to have such an unhealthy interest in how some anonymous people on the Internet say that they will vote.  Who the eff cares??

I'm not sure you've interpreted what's going on here correctly, @EdJames .   I don't think it's so much who other people are voting for, but rather the reasons that they feel a person deserves their vote.

The fact that it's anonymous isn't really relevant.  A political forum is a place where one can express values and views that one thinks are most important.  And I don't think it's yours (or my) place to tell anyone here they shouldn't be discussing anything that is of interest to them.

It would be stupid for me to tell people not to talk about cars or computers or FLOTUS fashion just because those topics don't interest me.  I think it's equally wrong for people to tell others not to express their views on the Constitution, the importance of morality, the importance of beating the Dems, or any other justification people have for their votes.

I repeat:  the reason the discussion are (in your opinion) "endless," is that they continue to be important to other people.

And that's why I think the people griping about what other people choose to discuss need to cool it, and leave any thread that you don't find interesting.
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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #523 on: August 03, 2019, 11:33:02 pm »
I'm not sure you've interpreted what's going on here correctly, @EdJames .   I don't think it's so much who other people are voting for, but rather the reasons that they feel a person deserves their vote.

The fact that it's anonymous isn't really relevant.  A political forum is a place where one can express values and views that one thinks are most important.  And I don't think it's yours (or my) place to tell anyone here they shouldn't be discussing anything that is of interest to them.

It would be stupid for me to tell people not to talk about cars or computers or FLOTUS fashion just because those topics don't interest me.  I think it's equally wrong for people to tell others not to express their views on the Constitution, the importance of morality, the importance of beating the Dems, or any other justification people have for their votes.

I repeat:  the reason the discussion are (in your opinion) "endless," is that they continue to be important to other people.

And that's why I think the people griping about what other people choose to discuss need to cool it, and leave any thread that you don't find interesting.

I'll comment on any thread that I damn well please. 

And I'll call a spade a spade any time that I damn well please.

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Re: House GOP fears retirement wave will lead to tsunami
« Reply #524 on: August 03, 2019, 11:38:43 pm »
I'll comment on any thread that I damn well please. 

And I'll call a spade a spade any time that I damn well please.

Just remember that doing that is a lifelong thing.   :beer:
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien