Byron York: Anti-Trump fever takes threatening turn

[roamer_1]

I'm not buying the deflection of responsibility.  Doesn't matter what Trump says or does, he's not responsible for the Antifa violence against his supporters, Antifa thugs are.

That's right - But that's nothing new either... That goes all the way back to Kent State.
And they will continue until they are met with violence... but the political PTB  don't like those optics.
Including Tump, for all his bluster.

[aligncare]

I'm not buying the deflection of responsibility.  Doesn't matter what Trump says or does, he's not responsible for the Antifa violence against his supporters, Antifa thugs are.

Good point. Except he wasn’t deflecting, he was blaming the victim. Trump didn’t create the media monsters and leftist thugs acting out. They’ve been hiding there in plain sight the whole time.

[skeeter]

I'm not buying the deflection of responsibility.  Doesn't matter what Trump says or does, he's not responsible for the Antifa violence against his supporters, Antifa thugs are.

And isn't blaming Trump, rightly or wrongly, for the political violence of the left tacit admission that the left is in fact more violent than they have been in the past?

[roamer_1]

Good point. Except he wasn’t deflecting, he was blaming the victim. Trump didn’t create the media monsters and leftist thugs acting out. They’ve been hiding there in plain sight the whole time.

Ahh, the politics of victim-hood.
so very progressive.

[roamer_1]

And isn't blaming Trump, rightly or wrongly, for the political violence of the left tacit admission that the left is in fact more violent than they have been in the past?

No.

[skeeter]

No.

Then those blaming Trump for violent rhetoric are just blowing smoke.

[roamer_1]

Then those blaming Trump for violent rhetoric are just blowing smoke.

How so?

[skeeter]

How so?

It makes no sense to respond to leftwing violence by blaming Trump because, according to you, the left is no more violent now than they were under Bush.

[roamer_1]

It makes no sense to respond to leftwing violence by blaming Trump because, according to you, the left is no more violent now than they were under Bush.

No, that the left has always been violent, and that Tumpy incites them can both be true.

[Cyber Liberty]

It makes no sense to respond to leftwing violence by blaming Trump because, according to you, the left is no more violent now than they were under Bush.

That defies observation.  The most the leftists did under Bush was to mock him, this bunch is beating people who wear MAGA caps enough to put them in the hospital.  The most the right ever did to Obastard was to mock him, too.

[XenaLee]

Good point. Except he wasn’t deflecting, he was blaming the victim. Trump didn’t create the media monsters and leftist thugs acting out. They’ve been hiding there in plain sight the whole time.

Antifa is probably just the spawn of the formerly violent leftist union thugs.   Same leftists, same violence, different nic.

[roamer_1]

That defies observation.  The most the leftists did under Bush was to mock him, this bunch is beating people who wear MAGA caps enough to put them in the hospital.  The most the right ever did to Obastard was to mock him, too.

Inciting/staging riots in cities and on campuses don't count?

[XenaLee]

Inciting/staging riots in cities and on campuses don't count?

How about trying to poison (kill) GWB at the G8 summit?   Must have been those pesky Dominican Republicans!   

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269564/George-Bush-poisoned-G8-summit-2007-claims-First-Lady-new-book.html

[roamer_1]

How about trying to poison (kill) GWB at the G8 summit?   Must have been those pesky Dominican Republicans!   

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269564/George-Bush-poisoned-G8-summit-2007-claims-First-Lady-new-book.html

It's just a matter of fact that the left always has resorted to violence.

[Cyber Liberty]

Inciting/staging riots in cities and on campuses don't count?

I'm not following you on this.  Other than a joke once about paying somebody's legal bills way back in 2016, I don't recall Trump telling people to go out and kick peoples heads in.

I know the leftists have always had violent tendencies.  I think there's been a shifting of gears in going after Trump supporters, in addition to going after Trump himself.  Am I being fooled by pro-Trump media? 

[XenaLee]

I'm not following you on this.  Other than a joke once about paying somebody's legal bills way back in 2016, I don't recall Trump telling people to go out and kick peoples heads in.

I know the leftists have always had violent tendencies.  I think there's been a shifting of gears in going after Trump supporters, in addition to going after Trump himself.  Am I being fooled by pro-Trump media?

I think you misunderstood him.  He was responding to your comment "The most the leftists did under Bush was to mock him" and refuting it.   At least, that's how I took it.

[Cyber Liberty]

I think you misunderstood him.  He was responding to your comment "The most the leftists did under Bush was to mock him" and refuting it.   At least, that's how I took it.

I think you're correct.  Sorry @roamer_1.

[roamer_1]

I'm not following you on this.  Other than a joke once about paying somebody's legal bills way back in 2016, I don't recall Trump telling people to go out and kick peoples heads in.

I never said he did.That he has not incited to violence does not mean that he doesn't incite.

I know the leftists have always had violent tendencies.  I think there's been a shifting of gears in going after Trump supporters, in addition to going after Trump himself.  Am I being fooled by pro-Trump media?

I see no difference in how it manifests. Your argument is toward whose ox is being gored, which is just another political calculation for the left.

[roamer_1]

I think you're correct.  Sorry @roamer_1.

Yep. NP.

 

[roamer_1]

I think you misunderstood him.  He was responding to your comment "The most the leftists did under Bush was to mock him" and refuting it.   At least, that's how I took it.

Yep, and thank you.

[240B]

Since I do believe God is firmly in control, I am forced to agree.  (lol)
But..... the reveal might have come a bit too late, I fear.   I just keep thinking about how we (the USA), as the only friend of Israel, are not mentioned in the Bible re: the end times.  Why not?

@XenaLee
Some Christian believe and preach that the USA is what is called New Jerusalem in John and Revelation. I'm not Christian so I do not know if this is a mainstream opinion.

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee
Some Christian believe and preach that the USA is what is called New Jerusalem in John and Revelation. I'm not Christian so I do not know if this is a mainstream opinion.

Wow.  Will have to research that.  I abhor tv televangelists and do not attend church, so I'm a bit out of the loop re: what "they" believe. 

Thanks!

[Cyber Liberty]

I never said he did.That he has not incited to violence does not mean that he doesn't incite.

I see no difference in how it manifests. Your argument is toward whose ox is being gored, which is just another political calculation for the left.

I don't agree it's a "ox being gored" thing but rather a matter of degree.  Try as I might, I just don't recall Republican protesters bashing in the heads of Obastard supporters in the streets on such a widespread basis, and Police being instructed to ignore felonious assault.   

[Hoodat]

That defies observation.  The most the leftists did under Bush was to mock him, this bunch is beating people who wear MAGA caps enough to put them in the hospital.  The most the right ever did to Obastard was to mock him, too.

Never forget this:

[Cyber Liberty]

Never forget this:

I never will.