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Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« on: June 26, 2019, 01:28:39 pm »
June 26, 2019
Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
By James Soriano

America is fighting a culture war and the Progressive Left is the aggressor.  The latest front was opened on June 21 when the House of Representatives passed the so-called “Equality Act,” which would allow boys who self-identify as girls to compete in school sports as girls.  Conservatives point to the Democrats’ embrace of transgender ideology as further evidence the party has gone off the rails, but typically left unexplained is how and why Leftists get to the positions they hold.  Here is an attempt to do that.  It has three parts.

We start from the position that Leftists maintain that citizens cannot truly pursue happiness or realize their individual potentialities unless they are free to will whatever they want to do.  In philosophy the fancy term for this is “voluntarism,” which connotes a theory or a general outlook that gives prominence to the will in opposition to our intellect.  The will is that part of our psychology that consists in making choices and in selecting one object among various particulars.  Obviously, the will and the intellect work together in making choices, but a disorder arises deep in the soul whenever the operation of the will is given free rein over our intellecttual powers.  We see this in instances when reason is put in a secondary role, used not to inquire into the truth of things, but rather to conjure up justifications that allow us to do whatever the will desires.

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Re: Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2019, 05:25:07 pm »
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America is fighting a culture war and the Progressive Left is the aggressor. 

9 words into the first sentence,and they are already wrong.

THERE IS NO SUCH CREATURE AS THE "PROGRESSIVE" LEFT! The left can NEVER be ANYTHING but REGRESSIVE.

Words have meanings and meanings have power. You would think that people who write for a living would understand something this basic.
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Re: Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2019, 01:09:30 am »
Pete wrote:
"9 words into the first sentence,and they are already wrong."

Got to disagree with you on this one, Pete.

Here is the quote, with the ONE "wrong word" corrected:
"America is fighting a culture war and the communist left is the aggressor"

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Re: Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2019, 04:55:36 am »
Pete wrote:
"9 words into the first sentence,and they are already wrong."

Got to disagree with you on this one, Pete.

Here is the quote, with the ONE "wrong word" corrected:
"America is fighting a culture war and the communist left is the aggressor"

@Fishrrman

Writing "communist left" is like writing the same word twice. A Communist can be nothing BUT a leftist. That is what defines them.
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Re: Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2019, 07:35:41 am »
@Fishrrman

Writing "communist left" is like writing the same word twice. A Communist can be nothing BUT a leftist. That is what defines them.
I prefer "totalitarian". The Communists aren't even real Communists, they're just totalitarians. The Progs, the Socialists, Liberals, etc. just wrap the same wet dreams in the same sticky blanket, and just call it something else.

They want your stuff.
They want to be big shots by giving some of your stuff away.
They want the best of whatever you got.

Their only idea of "equality" (for the 'little people', not themselves, because, well, they deserve better than us dumbassed proles) is to make everyone equally indigent, equally miserable and equally a slave.

Oh, and if you won't march enthusiastically into the abyss of slavery, they'll find a way to kill you. They just won't call it that.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2019, 04:09:27 pm »
I prefer "totalitarian". The Communists aren't even real Communists, they're just totalitarians. The Progs, the Socialists, Liberals, etc. just wrap the same wet dreams in the same sticky blanket, and just call it something else.

They want your stuff.
They want to be big shots by giving some of your stuff away.
They want the best of whatever you got.

Their only idea of "equality" (for the 'little people', not themselves, because, well, they deserve better than us dumbassed proles) is to make everyone equally indigent, equally miserable and equally a slave.

Oh, and if you won't march enthusiastically into the abyss of slavery, they'll find a way to kill you. They just won't call it that.

@Smokin Joe

And there it is. No matter what kind of label they try to hide because,they are nothing but dictators at heart.
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Re: Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2019, 04:18:15 pm »
They want your stuff and they are willing to kill you to get it.

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Re: Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2019, 04:23:03 pm »
Their only idea of "equality" (for the 'little people'...)

Wait a minnit Joe - They hate dwarf tossin... Well, midget tossin, really... Dwarves are just a smidgen too heavy for any real tossin.  :shrug:

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2019, 04:37:04 pm »
"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2019, 04:40:07 pm »
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence. It is force, and like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

                                            George Washington

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Re: Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2019, 06:30:11 pm »
Although the numbers of real commies seems to be growing, many on the left could be considered more parasites/opportunists than commies.
Many of them are bone stupid, real commies and believe wealth just exists, but many are like Hillary Clinton who  is happy to scam the gullible Dem constituents to get power and wealth.
Unfortunately, the real leftist numbers are expanding with true believers like Sanders, AOC, DeBlasio, and a number of others.

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2019, 07:07:26 pm »
Although the numbers of real commies seems to be growing, many on the left could be considered more parasites/opportunists than commies.
Many of them are bone stupid, real commies and believe wealth just exists, but many are like Hillary Clinton who  is happy to scam the gullible Dem constituents to get power and wealth.
Unfortunately, the real leftist numbers are expanding with true believers like Sanders, AOC, DeBlasio, and a number of others.
For them, Communism is a vehicle, a hot product to sell, and they are the ones looking to make the commission. It has revolutionary value with the young, and appeals to the lazy, who only see the things they get, not the opportunities they lose.
 
I doubt they have much understanding of the philosophy, nor any regard for the effects of totalitarianism, it's just another step on their to wealth, fame, and power (the latter of which will bring the other two). Needless to say, they don't give a thimble full of duck crap about the electorate, all they want is dominion over them, and the juice to squeeze people for whatever they can get, either with their cooperation, or ultimately, if necessary, by force, for your own good and for the children, out of love for their fellow man person.... (bullsh*t, but it sells to people who have been dumbed down with all the 'caring' and other crap).

An eye opener for me was watching Russian TV series on Amazon (English subtitles), where the loyalty of the loyal was questioned by the zampolit, and their families imprisoned, starved, and killed, and they took that in stride and remained loyal.

It is an alien mentality to us, but an enlightening one which betrays the nature of the Soviet system. It is a truer face of the style of rule these people want to exert than will ever be found in the philosophy books, the bloody murder behind the Che t-shirts, the things of which the dumbed down and perpetually angry types are unaware or only see themselves exerting on others, not being subject to themselves.
Yet for the student of history, every oppressive regime folds inward and executes some of its oppressors who are a little too successful, or perhaps have lost their personal thirst for the shed blood of others. Stalin did it, Hitler did it, no doubt Mao did it, and the list goes on as long a there are others who succeed in imprisoning their own people in the name of 'good'.

Peel back the shiny mask, and it's all murder, theft, and force.

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Re: Understanding Leftists in Three Easy Steps
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2019, 07:28:17 pm »
Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. I don't see any modern day Thomas Jefferson's in the DNC.

I DO see a lot of Joseph Stalin's,though.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2019, 07:40:32 pm »
Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. I don't see any modern day Thomas Jefferson's in the DNC.

I DO see a lot of Joseph Stalin's,though.

Consider that back in Jefferson's day, there were Indentured Servants, and also Debtor's Prison.  IOW, everyone was expected to be 'Productive'. One way or another...

I suspect many Caucasians picked cotton or rode fences.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2019, 07:58:09 pm »
For them, Communism is a vehicle, a hot product to sell, and they are the ones looking to make the commission. It has revolutionary value with the young, and appeals to the lazy, who only see the things they get, not the opportunities they lose.
 
I doubt they have much understanding of the philosophy, nor any regard for the effects of totalitarianism, it's just another step on their to wealth, fame, and power (the latter of which will bring the other two). Needless to say, they don't give a thimble full of duck crap about the electorate, all they want is dominion over them, and the juice to squeeze people for whatever they can get, either with their cooperation, or ultimately, if necessary, by force, for your own good and for the children, out of love for their fellow man person.... (bullsh*t, but it sells to people who have been dumbed down with all the 'caring' and other crap).

An eye opener for me was watching Russian TV series on Amazon (English subtitles), where the loyalty of the loyal was questioned by the zampolit, and their families imprisoned, starved, and killed, and they took that in stride and remained loyal.

It is an alien mentality to us, but an enlightening one which betrays the nature of the Soviet system. It is a truer face of the style of rule these people want to exert than will ever be found in the philosophy books, the bloody murder behind the Che t-shirts, the things of which the dumbed down and perpetually angry types are unaware or only see themselves exerting on others, not being subject to themselves.
Yet for the student of history, every oppressive regime folds inward and executes some of its oppressors who are a little too successful, or perhaps have lost their personal thirst for the shed blood of others. Stalin did it, Hitler did it, no doubt Mao did it, and the list goes on as long a there are others who succeed in imprisoning their own people in the name of 'good'.

Peel back the shiny mask, and it's all murder, theft, and force.

Guard the RKBA jealously, it is all that stands between us and that.
Good post. I've read a lot of stuff about commie and other assorted tyrants. My conclusion is that in chaotic situations, the most ruthless rise to the top.
And many of these murderous tyrants were just average shlubs before they were given power. Hitler was  a nothing before WWI. Speaking violent crap to people after the war vaulted him into the stratosphere of powerful demagogues.  Stalin was nothing without the communist party. Maduro in Venezuela was a bus driver. Now he's a full-fledged tyrant.
You can look at a modern equivalent, Kim Jong Un, and see him as just another mope working a quotidian-type job in a warehouse, seven/eleven, etc.
But given complete power, he's a monster.
So how many incipient monsters do we have in this country who if given supreme power would set about slaughtering their enemies with glee?
Looking at the rising numbers of Antifa types, I'd say quite a few. That college professor who took a bike lock to brain some right-wingers at a rally in the Bay Area is a likely candidate to turn into a megalomaniac.
While there are some bozos on the far, far, right I wouldn't trust with power, it's for sure most tyrants today come out of a left-wing background.  The American Stalin/Mao/Hitler is just waiting his chance.

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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2019, 01:11:40 am »
goat wrote:
"So how many incipient monsters do we have in this country who if given supreme power would set about slaughtering their enemies with glee?
Looking at the rising numbers of Antifa types, I'd say quite a few. That college professor who took a bike lock to brain some right-wingers at a rally in the Bay Area is a likely candidate to turn into a megalomaniac.
While there are some bozos on the far, far, right I wouldn't trust with power, it's for sure most tyrants today come out of a left-wing background.  The American Stalin/Mao/Hitler is just waiting his chance."


A wiser observation than most of the others above.

Make no mistake: behind the useful idiots there are dedicated and doctrinaire American communists waiting to make their moves.

And the way things are going, it looks like they're eventually gonna get their chance.

Once again, Fishrrman's "American Timeline":
2019 - USA (United States of America)
2027 - USSA (United Socialist States of America)
2035 - USSSA (United Soviet Socialist States of America)
2042 - ????

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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2019, 01:39:26 am »
goat wrote:
"So how many incipient monsters do we have in this country who if given supreme power would set about slaughtering their enemies with glee?
Looking at the rising numbers of Antifa types, I'd say quite a few. That college professor who took a bike lock to brain some right-wingers at a rally in the Bay Area is a likely candidate to turn into a megalomaniac.
While there are some bozos on the far, far, right I wouldn't trust with power, it's for sure most tyrants today come out of a left-wing background.  The American Stalin/Mao/Hitler is just waiting his chance."


A wiser observation than most of the others above.

Make no mistake: behind the useful idiots there are dedicated and doctrinaire American communists waiting to make their moves.

And the way things are going, it looks like they're eventually gonna get their chance.

Once again, Fishrrman's "American Timeline":
2019 - USA (United States of America)
2027 - USSA (United Socialist States of America)
2035 - USSSA (United Soviet Socialist States of America)
2042 - ????

I'm afraid if I were in that position of power, the first thing I would do is separate skilled tradesmen/employed workers from able-bodied free-loaders/homeless.

The latter shall be deemed "Irredeemable".  Hillary's word, not mine.

They would work double shifts cleaning whatever the hell I wanted cleaned.
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