Famed columnist E. Jean Carroll claims Trump sexually assaulted her in 1990s

[XenaLee]

Rats gave up running on the actual issues years ago.

And what choice did they have?  Their "real issues" are constant losers.... and economy-killers.  Anti-American all the way.   And now... they've dropped all pretense and are out of the commie closet (thanks, Donald!).   They're full-blown anti-capitalists ... just as they have acted in the past (parroting CPUSA) and just as most of us on the right have always suspected.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I fail to understand how credence is given to a lunatic woman who had her first rape fantasy at the age of 7 and includes it in an article subtitled "My List of Hideous Men" emblazed on the cover of a national magazine from her soon to be released book: "What do we need men for?"

This article is written and published not a full year after the #poundmetoo movement put every male child, teenager, adult and octogenarian in the feminist crosshairs; and not a full year after demands were made on Kavanaugh to prove he did not participate in fabricated gang rapes, apparently up and down the Eastern seaboard.  And yet so many here embrace this bullshit.

Let's face is:  Sexual allegations are the conservatives' political Kryptonite --- and the script writing is becoming more and more vile ---- because each must outdo the one before.

This woman should be shunned as a malicious liar; just as a sex for hire porn "star" should have been.  Just as all the women with newly found memories of moments so horrible it took three decades to "process" them.

These activists are not just coming for political officeholders, they're coming for your fathers, brothers, husbands, sons, nephews, grandsons and friends.  And unless this bullshit is stopped now, at least one of yours WILL pay the price.

Oh, and let me add the obligatory tagline that's needed around here for some sort of credibility:  I'm not defending Trump.  I'm just saying this freak should be deemed believable by the folks around here only if she had claimed to be abducted by aliens.

[TomSea]

Democrats, historically, the party of the Klan, of Jim Crow, of slavery, of infanticide, late term abortion. They'll try anything and the New Yorker has certainly shown itself to be friendly to leftist interests.  I mean, if we are card stacking, why not?

Controlled by puppetmasters like Planned Parenthood who abort about a 3rd, maybe up to a half of all black babies.

[sneakypete]

Grab'em by the _____.

But it will be greeted with yawns, victim shaming and the usual pooh-poohs from the Sycophant Caucus who I apparently can no longer mention by name. You know who you are, shills.

@jmyrlefuller

Wassamadda bay-bay? Things not going your way? People harshing your Bush-Buzz?

You poor thing!

[sneakypete]

It's not like she's the first.

@jmyrlefuller

Well,it IS  a pleasant break from watching a president swap spit with Saudi princes and kings.

[sneakypete]

@EdJames

Must have been a BIG "Red Letter Day" on her calendar if she can still remember what she was wearing 23 years later,and still has the clothes.

[sneakypete]

Is that what his problem is?

I couldn't figure out why the 100% bitterness all of the time....

 

@EdJames

Hidden jealousy combined with guilt makes the bitter brew and perk.

[edpc]

Let's face it:  Sexual allegations are the conservatives' political Kryptonite --- and the script writing is becoming more and more vile ---- because each must outdo the one before.

Well, good news, then. Trump isn’t a conservative (you’ve even said so) and he’s been part of so many actual sleazy things, he’s immune to new accusations, true or not.

[XenaLee]

So does Trump. All the damn time--it's just how he rolls. And he does have a motive.

And I don't know the political leanings of all the women (and their corroborating witnesses) who have accused him. Do you?

Ahem....

https://www.weaselzippers.us/423979-accuser-e-jean-carroll-virulently-anti-trump-pro-hillary-posed-question-about-how-trump-could-be-taken-down/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Jon Levine
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E. Jean Carroll tells @Lawrence that she will not seek rape charges against Donald Trump because it would be "disrespectful" to women at the boarder "who are being raped around the clock"

Video at link: 

https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1142267665081425920

[mystery-ak]

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Don't turn this thread into personal attacks and insults....this can be discussed without them...

[Cyber Liberty]

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Don't turn this thread into personal attacks and insults....this can be discussed without them...

 

[sneakypete]

E. Jean Carroll tells @Lawrence that she will not seek rape charges against Donald Trump because it would be "disrespectful" to women at the boarder "who are being raped around the clock"

@Right_in_Virginia

AND because she has already used it to hype up her upcoming book sales,so there is nothing more to be gained.

[Bill Cipher]

In other words, she won’t because she knows they aren’t true.

[Applewood]

@FeelNoPain

For me, Nineteen separate women who don't know each other (and don't know about the other incidents) telling dozens of contemporary witnesses at the time of the alleged incidents is proof enough for me. For me, Nineteen separate women who don't know each other (and don't know about the other incidents) telling dozens of contemporary witnesses at the time of the alleged incidents is proof enough for me.

And here's the thing -- again, going back to my experience with lawyers -- the sheer number of similar accusations does not mean this accusation -- or any or all of the others -- are necessarily true.  In a number of these situations, there is a certain "piling on."  I suspected in Justice Kavanaugh's and Roy Moore's situations, someone or some entity organized and bankrolled the effort to bring in multiple women to make similar claims.  I believe in Roy Moore's case, at least one of his accusers didn't have the proverbial pot to *bleep* in.  Yet, she had some high-priced, well known lawyer at her side.  So who paid for that lawyer?  I doubt very much it was the accuser and I doubt the lawyer worked for free.

Motivation behind these stories has been mentioned.  In Kavanaugh's and Moore's cases, it likely was political.  Maybe it was here too.  In addition, Miss Carroll has a book to sell.  Before I believe any of these accusers, I would want to know what, if anything, they have to gain by coming forward now.

Yes, some stories may be true.  You mentioned Bill Cosby.  He was convicted in one case, so I would accept that the charges made in that case were true.  But that doesn't mean the others are true too.

[Right_in_Virginia]

In other words, she won’t because she knows they aren’t true.

Yup. 

[roamer_1]

Understood. We all make our own judgments.

 For me, Nineteen separate women who don't know each other (and don't know about the other incidents) telling dozens of contemporary witnesses at the time of the alleged incidents is proof enough for me.

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Cosby, Weinstein, Clinton, Trump---it's just too many women saying the same thing. I believe the women.

@FeelNoPain
Then you'll also have to 'believe the women' in the cases of Kavanaugh, Cruz, and Moore, to use the same standard.

Anyone can accuse, with any sort of motive.
That is why accusations require proof. PERIOD.

And that I have to rise to defend this scurrilous bastard is beyond damn ugly. 

[edpc]

Then you'll also have to 'believe the women' in the cases of Kavanaugh, Cruz, and Moore, to use the same standard.

Maybe I’m forgetting something, but IIRC, the Cruz allegations were made by the Enquirer and denied by the women. We now know where AMI stands, after the Cohen conviction.

[Bill Cipher]

@FeelNoPain
Then you'll also have to 'believe the women' in the cases of Kavanaugh, Cruz, and Moore, to use the same standard.

Anyone can accuse, with any sort of motive.
That is why accusations require proof. PERIOD.

And that I have to rise to defend this scurrilous bastard is beyond damn ugly. 

Nonsense.

[240B]

Definitely a dangerous precedent, especially when Democrats are involved, to say that the number of accusers must equate to guilt by default even in the absence of any proof at all. Since Democrats have no honor, no ethics, no dignity at all, and since they have no problem at all with lying to further their goals and agendas, Democrats can rally a hundred unrelated people in a single day to accuse a Republican of anything. It would be no problem at all for them. And because the Democrats essentially own the American Legal System almost in full, the fake accusers would be guaranteed that nothing will ever happen to them even if they are caught for perjury.

If we start going by the number of accusers instead of factual proof, then the Legal System becomes obsolete. Especially since these accusations are coming from up to half a century in the past.

She claims to be upset and all that, but I call bullshit. If Donald Trump was not POTUS, she would never have said a word about whatever it is she claims as her story. It is much more likely that she is doing this for fame and publicity than it is that she has an actual grievance.

[Applewood]

@Right_in_Virginia

AND because she has already used it to hype up her upcoming book sales,so there is nothing more to be gained.

And because there is no evidence.

[DCPatriot]

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Don't turn this thread into personal attacks and insults....this can be discussed without them...

[mountaineer]

Still wrapping my mind around "famed." 

[edpc]

George Conway says new rape allegation against Trump 'is more credible' than Juanita Broaddrick

“Republicans or conservatives who promoted Broaddrick’s charges would be hypocritical if they fail to champion Carroll and condemn Trump,” Conway, lawyer and husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, wrote in an op-ed published by The Washington Post on Saturday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/449866-george-conway-says-new-rape-allegation-against-trump-is-more-credible


Not a Trump fan at all, but Conway should leave this alone.

[edpc]

Still wrapping my mind around "famed." 

Famed, like Pauline Phillips.