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Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« on: June 20, 2019, 04:00:43 am »
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State media says Global Hawk hit when it entered Iranian airspace in southern Iran’s Hormozgan province; US military declines to comment
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TEHRAN, Iran — Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency said Thursday that the country’s Revolutionary Guard has shot down a US drone. The US military declined to immediately comment.

IRNA said Thursday the drone was hit when it entered Iranian airspace near the Kouhmobarak district in southern Iran’s Hormozgan province.


TEHRAN, Iran — Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency said Thursday that the country’s Revolutionary Guard has shot down a US drone. The US military declined to immediately comment.

IRNA said Thursday the drone was hit when it entered Iranian airspace near the Kouhmobarak district in southern Iran’s Hormozgan province.

IRNA, citing the paramilitary Revolutionary Guard, identified the drone as an RQ-4 Global Hawk.

Read more at: https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-revolutionary-guard-shoots-down-us-drone/?utm_source=iran-says-revolutionary-guard-shoots-down-us-drone&utm_medium=desktop-browser&utm_campaign=desktop-notifications

Okay, a few things might be happening around the region right now. Nothing overly serious but monitoring it.


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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2019, 10:58:24 am »
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US Navy drone shot down by Iranian missile over Strait of Hormuz: source
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 11:16:19 am »
US Navy drone shot down by Iranian missile over Strait of Hormuz: source
By Lucas Tomlinson, Edmund DeMarche | Fox News
 

Graham: Tensions with Iran are getting more dangerous by the day
 

A U.S. high-altitude drone was shot down Thursday by an Iranian surface-to-air missile over the Strait of Hormuz amid heightened tensions in the region after last week’s attacks on two oil tankers, a source told Fox News.

A commander for Iran's Revolutionary Guard said the shooting sends `a clear message' to the U.S. He said while Iran has no intention of war with anyone, it's "ready for war."

The U.S. Navy’s MQ-4C drone, , which has the same wingspan as a Boeing 737, was over international airspace at the time and about 17 miles from Iran, the source said. Iran also tried to shoot down another drone, but missed, according to U.S. officials.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-navy-drone-shot-down-by-iranian-missile-over-strait-of-hormuz-source

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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 01:02:17 pm »
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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2019, 01:19:56 pm »
Some commercial traffic, out of Dubai, in the area. I sincerely hope there’s no mishaps.


https://www.flightradar24.com/25.57,56.57/6
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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2019, 01:48:53 pm »



FAKE PHOTO?

When revealing Iran had shot down the drone, the country's state-run IRNA news agency released a picture of an aircraft appearing to spiral towards Earth.

It claimed the image showed a RQ-4 Global Hawk, a US military drone, being blasted out the sky over Iranian territory.

However the same photograph - albeit in a wider crop - had previously appeared in a two-year-old report of a spy drone being shot down over Yemen in 2017.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9334596/iran-shoots-down-us-spy-drone-tensions-gulf/#
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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2019, 01:53:35 pm »
I would expect the wreckage has already been located and secured. And hopefully some consensus is being obtained from allies (if we have any) for a quick and proportionate response. 

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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2019, 01:55:33 pm »



FAKE PHOTO?

When revealing Iran had shot down the drone, the country's state-run IRNA news agency released a picture of an aircraft appearing to spiral towards Earth.

It claimed the image showed a RQ-4 Global Hawk, a US military drone, being blasted out the sky over Iranian territory.

However the same photograph - albeit in a wider crop - had previously appeared in a two-year-old report of a spy drone being shot down over Yemen in 2017.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9334596/iran-shoots-down-us-spy-drone-tensions-gulf/#
It looks real, just not a pic of a Global Hawk.  The "bulge" in the nose of that pic makes think it's an MQ-9 Reaper, not a Global Hawk.  Reaper nose is broader/wider, Global Hawk is humped upwards...plus, Global Hawks don't have anything mounted/attached to their wings, that pic clearly shows something there, like a Reaper would have.
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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2019, 01:57:24 pm »
Looks like it may be time for Raytheon stocks to go up a bit...(they make the Tomahawk cruise missiles).   :whistle:
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Iran shoots down US drone
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2019, 02:25:14 pm »
Iran shoots down US drone
By Kyle Balluck and Tal Axelrod - 06/20/19 06:02 AM EDT

The U.S. military confirmed Thursday morning that Iran shot down a U.S. drone, heightening already raised tensions between Washington and Tehran.

U.S. Central Command (Centcom) said an Iranian surface-to-air missile system shot down the drone in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz in an "unprovoked attack." It also denied Iranian claims that the drone was over Hormozgan Province in southern Iran.

Centcom identified the drone as an RQ-4 Global Hawk that "provides real-time intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions (ISR) over vast ocean and coastal regions."


The Northrup Grumman-made Global Hawk, valued at $130 million, is considered the Navy's most advanced high-altitude drone.

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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2019, 02:38:14 pm »
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I get the feeling their escalations are baiting us to strike them. I’m guessing our response will be cyber-based and not direct military action.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2019, 02:46:14 pm »
...I get the feeling their escalations are baiting us to strike them....

I agree.
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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2019, 02:53:32 pm »
I agree.l


What do you suppose is their motive? I believe the sanctions have inflicted a lot of economic damage and they’re hoping conflict will drive up oil prices, so people here feel it, too. The economy has been a strong point for Trump, so I think they’re trying to kneecap him on that issue.
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2019, 02:59:47 pm »

What do you suppose is their motive? I believe the sanctions have inflicted a lot of economic damage and they’re hoping conflict will drive up oil prices, so people here feel it, too. The economy has been a strong point for Trump, so I think they’re trying to kneecap him on that issue.

I doubt they attack drones and ships in the Persian Gulf hoping to hurt the US economy.

If any return attack occurs, I look for them to use that to attack Israel, Just as Iraq did in the Gulf War.  They hope that attacking Israel will bring Arab countries to their side.

They want to gain power as did Iraq.  But after my time living Middle East, I understand many of these people don't have rational thought process from our point of view.
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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2019, 03:01:48 pm »
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BLASTED OUT THE SKY Iran accused of using FAKE photo to ‘prove’ US drone was over its territory – as America slams ‘unprovoked’ attack

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9337518/us-slams-irans-unprovoked-attack-on-spy-drone-as-it-doubles-down-on-claim-aircraft-was-shot-down-in-international-airspace/

This just says the photo we are being shown is an old photo used before. That this photo is an old one of what happened over Yemen some time ago.

I still don't want to go to war over a downed drone.
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2019, 03:08:41 pm »
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Netanyahu to Israel's enemies: We have power to destroy, do not test us
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“I hear our neighbors from the north, south and east threatening to destroy us,” he said. “I say to our enemies: The IDF has a very large power of annihilation. Do not try us.”

Netanyahu’s comments came amid an increase in regional tensions, including between the US and Iran in the Persian Gulf. The massive exercise incorporated all branches of the military, including the use of the F-35 stealth fighter recently acquired from the US.

More:  https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Netanyahu-to-enemies-We-have-power-of-annihilation-do-not-test-us-593003

This is a really good time for Netanyahu to give some of the "quiet" he's always asking for.

We really don't need him goading anyone at this time … because in the end it will be us doing the fighting.



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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2019, 03:11:38 pm »
I doubt they attack drones and ships in the Persian Gulf hoping to hurt the US economy.

If any return attack occurs, I look for them to use that to attack Israel, Just as Iraq did in the Gulf War.  They hope that attacking Israel will bring Arab countries to their side.

They want to gain power as did Iraq.  But after my time living Middle East, I understand many of these people don't have rational thought process from our point of view.


Militarily, they are overmatched by Israel or the United States, on their own. Together, they would be in a hopeless situation. That makes me wonder about the progress of their nuclear program. I don’t think they would attempt something so bold, without an ace in the hole. It seems rather peculiar that right after the large nuclear test, by North Korea, the Iranians began to ramp up their ballistic missile testing. They’ve had a history of cooperation, over the years.
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Re: Iran says Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2019, 03:14:08 pm »
Just a counter point as I read a while ago,  say Russia has a drone near US territory but not in US airspace. So, we wouldn't shoot it down?

And hopefully, satellite photos will tell us where this drone was.

To me, it sounds like we are going to respond somehow.
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2019, 03:18:37 pm »
Just a counter point as I read a while ago,  say Russia has a drone near US territory but not in US airspace. So, we wouldn't shoot it down?

And hopefully, satellite photos will tell us where this drone was.
The Russian drone 'might' be covered under the Treaty on Open Skies.

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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2019, 03:18:57 pm »
Just a counter point as I read a while ago,  say Russia has a drone near US territory but not in US airspace. So, we wouldn't shoot it down?


No, we wouldn’t. They routinely send bombers to test our response. We don’t fire up on them. You’ve got us confused with the Soviets and KAL 007.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2019, 03:20:11 pm »
Just a counter point as I read a while ago,  say Russia has a drone near US territory but not in US airspace. So, we wouldn't shoot it down?

And hopefully, satellite photos will tell us where this drone was.

To me, it sounds like we are going to respond somehow.

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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2019, 03:28:33 pm »
The heat will be to do something IF, Iran really expands their nuke program, that is more enriched uranium and the like which is suppose to happen within days.

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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2019, 03:29:06 pm »
This is a really good time for Netanyahu to give some of the "quiet" he's always asking for.

We really don't need him goading anyone at this time … because in the end it will be us doing the fighting.


It’s a good time for you to go on mute, as well. Ever heard of Hezbollah, the cross-border raids and rocket attacks in 2006? In the wake of that conflict, Lebanon invited the Iranian backed terror group into their political system. There’s also the more recent establishment of military personnel around Damascus and the Golan Heights. For years, they have been moving equipment from Syria, into the Bekkah Valley. How about the pursuit of a nuclear weapon, the attempted construction of a reactor in Syria, combined with the regular threats of destroying Israel? For chrissake, @Right_in_Virginia. Only you would think that Netanyahu is the one being provocative.   *****rollingeyes*****
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2019, 03:36:47 pm »

It’s a good time for you to go on mute, as well.

Fine, I'll go mute. 

But mark my previous words.