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He has accumulated more than the average amount of dirt.  That being said, I don’t see the dirt he’s accumulated as being impeachable, and I rather suspect a sufficient number of senators feel the same way.

I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?

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I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?

IF Amash, truly had any 'dirt' on President Trump, I would think that he'd be stating specifics, rather than saying he read the Mueller report and found there to be impeachable offenses.  What are they?
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I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?

If there had been the slightest whiff on a crime, he would have been indicted by Mueller who indicted people for forgetting a years-old email. The ten "possible instances of obstruction" were a smear written by Wiseman and analyzed by Levin and DiGenova as such. Barr deemed the legal theory behind them questionable and said they did not constitute a crime. That the piece of trash volume 2 was released is shameful.

I don't like Trump's personal style and cringe at his disjointed way of speaking, but he is running the country a whole hell of a lot better than Bammy. It's a shame he's being fought by the GOP RINOS because so much more could have been accomplished.
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If there had been the slightest whiff on a crime, he would have been indicted by Mueller who indicted people for forgetting a years-old email. The ten "possible instances of obstruction" were a smear written by Wiseman and analyzed by Levin and DiGenova as such. Barr deemed the legal theory behind them questionable and said they did not constitute a crime. That the piece of trash volume 2 was released is shameful.

I don't like Trump's personal style and cringe at his disjointed way of speaking, but he is running the country a whole hell of a lot better than Bammy. It's a shame he's being fought by the GOP RINOS because so much more could have been accomplished.

That's about where I line up.  I cringe almost every time he speaks.  I give him credit when he does something right, and will point out when he doesn't.
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IF Amash, truly had any 'dirt' on President Trump, I would think that he'd be stating specifics, rather than saying he read the Mueller report and found there to be impeachable offenses.  What are they?

Serious question:  Is the report currently classified, and/or is access being restricted while [someone] determines which if any parts need to remain classified (or are pertinent to ongoing investigations)?   It seems to me that it could be that he has read it, and can share his conclusion that impeachable offenses were committed, but can't be specific at this time.
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Ignorance.  I know Christians from the ME.


Nice you know that.  So do i.  Now what?  We are talking about THIS MAN.  I am not concerned about any CHRISTIANS from the M.E.  This man supports Palesntine & is against Israel. He says It. He blames Israel when it is Palestinians sending all the rockets over into ISRAEL.  My stats say in 2007, Palestinians are 99% muslims.  HAMAS=Islamists=Palestinians.

With Obama, only terrorists came in from M.E.  Christians were not coming in!  So you think, I am ignorant?  Aren't you special & virtue signaling.   ****slapping.  BYE

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Well....well...well......

Amash was born in Michigan to a Palestinian Christian father and a Syrian Christian mother who had immigrated to the United States. He grew up in Kentwood, Michigan, and was the valedictorian of his high school class. He studied economics at the University of Michigan and then earned a law degree from the University of Michigan Law School, then worked as an attorney at his father's business before beginning his political career. He and his brothers are co-owners of their family business, Dynamic Source International which includes Amash Imports, Inc. (founded in 1956 and using the trade name of Amash Brothers Distributing and Michigan Industrial Tools) and others.[6][7] Their family businesses are heavily invested in China which include Trekton and other products.[8]

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 So, he says screw Americans & our country...AS LONG AS THEY keep getting their millions!  Not what is good for the country.  Not enough millions..yet?  They still would make money.  It would just be better for Americans as a whole. 



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If there had been the slightest whiff on a crime, he would have been indicted by Mueller who indicted people for forgetting a years-old email. The ten "possible instances of obstruction" were a smear written by Wiseman and analyzed by Levin and DiGenova as such. Barr deemed the legal theory behind them questionable and said they did not constitute a crime. That the piece of trash volume 2 was released is shameful.

I don't like Trump's personal style and cringe at his disjointed way of speaking, but he is running the country a whole hell of a lot better than Bammy. It's a shame he's being fought by the GOP RINOS because so much more could have been accomplished.


lol. I have such ZERO issue with his personal style and way of speaking !   In my eyes he does it all well!  He is none P.C. and blunt...LIKE I AM.   :seeya:  That is what we need and most people..esp.MEN..love that about him.  Maybe all that LEFT trashing him daily about his style has influenced you? And others?  There is nothing wrong with him.  All the people on here virtue signaling how GRAND they are...versus THE PRESIDENT, does make giggle.   I think you all have been brainwashed by MEDIA to think like this.   He is a billionaire and president with all of those traits.  Yet, you all are 'better". 

He is a breath of fresh air, compared to decades of brain washing and P.C. SPEAK.  "hate speak laws"=ANY TRUTH.

You all need to have the the intestinal fortitude to watch this video from start to finish.  You all have been brainwashed for decades.  This started a long time ago against TRUMP.  JEALOUS MEN. Look at old TV shows. Always putting him down!
Asking him how much things COST, then berate him for telling it, calling him "bragging".  THEY ASK ALL THE TIME! 
Dan Rather, Lettermen. Roseann Barr. I doubt most of you will do this.
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If there had been the slightest whiff on a crime, he would have been indicted by Mueller who indicted people for forgetting a years-old email. The ten "possible instances of obstruction" were a smear written by Wiseman and analyzed by Levin and DiGenova as such. Barr deemed the legal theory behind them questionable and said they did not constitute a crime. That the piece of trash volume 2 was released is shameful.

I don't like Trump's personal style and cringe at his disjointed way of speaking, but he is running the country a whole hell of a lot better than Bammy. It's a shame he's being fought by the GOP RINOS because so much more could have been accomplished.

Mueller would not have indicted Trump for anything.  That would have been left up to the Attorney General. 

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That's about where I line up.  I cringe almost every time he speaks.  I give him credit when he does something right, and will point out when he doesn't.

So. Edjames...YOU are a billionaire too?  JAMES TOWERS?    888mouth

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I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?

He did try to interfere with the investigation. He also tried to suborn perjury.  It’s in the public portions of the Mueller report. 

The evidence is subject to interpretation, and could support a prosecution for obstruction.  But they are thin and are also subject to a non-criminal interpretation.  In other words, reasonable minds can disagree about what the evidence shows.  And that’s what’s happening.  However, to me, that’s also why there is not sufficient grounds for impeachment.

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So. Edjames...YOU are a billionaire too?  JAMES TOWERS?    888mouth

Why yes!!

Don't you see them dominating the skylines all over the world!!

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   My x sister in law rents an apartment in one of your Towers @EdJames she was thrown out  of her NYC rent controlled building by Eric Trump.

No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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   My x sister in law rents an apartment in one of your Towers @EdJames she was thrown out  of her NYC rent controlled building by Eric Trump.



If I had to guess she is probably in one of my towers in Houston, or maybe Austin.

If she needs any help just have her ask to speak to "Stosh," same guy in either location.  Unlike the Trumps, I hire displaced Eastern Europeans and let them earn their keep, rather that sell them a bill of goods.

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   She runs a Columbian prostitution ring in your Austin building, I doubt if she'll want to bring any attention to herself. 
   Apparently your guy 'stosh' want's less of a cut than Eric did.
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He did try to interfere with the investigation. He also tried to suborn perjury.  It’s in the public portions of the Mueller report. 

The evidence is subject to interpretation, and could support a prosecution for obstruction.  But they are thin and are also subject to a non-criminal interpretation.  In other words, reasonable minds can disagree about what the evidence shows.  And that’s what’s happening.  However, to me, that’s also why there is not sufficient grounds for impeachment.
A fair assessment. And, IMHO, not at all equal to an ‘above average’ accumulation of dirt.

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   She runs a Columbian prostitution ring in your Austin building, I doubt if she'll want to bring any attention to herself. 
   Apparently your guy 'stosh' want's less of a cut than Eric did.

As long as he gets 90% of the rent deposited on time and keeps me out of court, Stosh is free to pocket as much as he can on the side.

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On a side.  We had a thread on here about president TRUMP using a 'voice' like the person who made a comment.  WE ALL DO THIS.  Listen to Stephen...he does the same things..when telling a story.  WE ALL DO IT...BUT WHEN PRESIDENT TOLD a STORY..IT WAS "SOLD"' AS MOCKING.   Some of you bought into it.  The best president ever for America...and people keep looking for some way to put him down.  Draft #580. & TWICE A-1, once Y-1, so 3 years of possible drafting.  Draft ended. BILL CLINTON, JOE BIDEN, BERNIE SANDERS, OBAMA...none of them had any military service!  President had 4 years in military school, mentored by a retired gerneral, and was a captain, I believe.  I don't know about ranks. If drafted, he would have been an OFFICER. NOW, he is serving as commander-in-chief.  14 attempts on his life & more. Just as dangerous.

I found out Ivama MANAGED all the casino's and went into Chapter 11. Reorganization and everyone was paid on schedule of time.

Her getting into management, destroyed their marriage and business.  She would scream at people. NOT ONCE HAS HE BLAMED IVANA for doing that. He took it all himself.  YES. JEALOUSY IS THE CAUSE OF ALL EVIL.  I see it all the time.
There are 2 more video's chronically listing, all the lies & slander. They are being removed or hard to find.  TRUTH.
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None of us would be able to hold up, under this kind of slander. Look on here!  Racist? 1986 Ellis Island Award for NOT BEING RACIST.

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That's about where I line up.  I cringe almost every time he speaks.  I give him credit when he does something right, and will point out when he doesn't.

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Mueller would not have indicted Trump for anything.  That would have been left up to the Attorney General.

Ah, but he could have recommended indictments.  He didn't.

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Ah, but he could have recommended indictments.  He didn't.

Quite true.  And that he did not is circumstantial evidence of the weakness of the evidence he found contra Trump. 

However, it is also likely - more likely - that he would have followed the lead of those who investigated Nixon and leave a roadmap or trail of breadcrumbs to facilitate an impeachment, and leave such a politically charged decision to Congress. 

So, all things being equal, I don’t think he would have recommended an indictment against Trump even if there was clear evidence of criminality. 

People on both sides of the political spectrum need to be a little more honest and engaged with the facts:  Trump engaged in misbehavior, but not clearly criminal conduct; he’s a hot mess, just not an obvious criminal.  And at the end of the day, if Clinton’s actions in abusing the power of his office to bed interns and to then lie about it under oath - clearly criminal conduct - wasn’t sufficient to justify his impeachment, then neither is Trump’s misbehavior.

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   My x sister in law rents an apartment in one of your Towers @EdJames she was thrown out  of her NYC rent controlled building by Eric Trump.



From what number floor did he throw her?    :laugh: 
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From what number floor did he throw her?    :laugh: 

Good one!

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