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Offline Right_in_Virginia

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Handicapping the trade war
« on: May 15, 2019, 11:23:07 pm »
Handicapping the trade war
NY Post, May 14, 2019, Editorial Board

President Trump’s tariffs on China may well take a toll on the US economy, but the price of not confronting Beijing would be higher.

The president isn’t playing protectionist here. He’s pushing a single player who needs to be confronted, a cheater and a bully. For decades, China has gotten away with theft of others’ production techniques and other intellectual property, along with technology transfers and mistreatment of US companies. Moreover, it uses its ill-gotten gains to boost its military, adding another threat.

And Beijing just backed off key concessions it had already made in months of trade talks, expecting Washington to fold.

Instead, Trump goosed fees on $200 billion in Chinese imports to 25 percent, from 10 percent. China struck back with its own new tariffs on US products, and now Team Trump is eyeing fees on another $325 billion in Chinese goods (i.e., basically the rest).

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There’s a reason the president isn’t taking heat from Democrats on this one issue, even though top economic adviser Larry Kudlow admits “both sides will suffer” in this trade war: China knows it will suffer worse.  Short-term, US consumers will pay a bit more — on goods that make up less than 2 percent of the nation’s $20.5 trillion economy. But China is at growing risk of losing access to the world’s top market, because Americans can buy from other lower-wage producers if Beijing doesn’t blink.

And China’s leadership has no remaining claim to legitimacy if it can’t keep its economy booming: President Xi Jinping needs a deal far more than the US president does.

Trump didn’t start this trade war, but he’s well positioned to win it.


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Re: Handicapping the trade war
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 12:12:41 am »
Of course America will win.

We play that way, unless it is losers like Carter or Obama who whine about our decline.
No punishment, in my opinion, is too great, for the man who can build his greatness upon his country's ruin~  George Washington

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Re: Handicapping the trade war
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 11:45:44 am »
Of course America will win.

We play that way, unless it is losers like Carter or Obama who whine about our decline.
Yes we will win.

This is Truly a Trade War
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/05/this_is_truly_a_trade_war.html
No punishment, in my opinion, is too great, for the man who can build his greatness upon his country's ruin~  George Washington

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Re: Handicapping the trade war
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2019, 03:15:07 pm »
Rather than a narrow trade war, it's about the value of Honor.
Those who cheat, lie and steal are w/o Honor and have earned
disgrace and stigmatization from those who don't.

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Re: Handicapping the trade war
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2019, 05:22:15 pm »
Rather than a narrow trade war, it's about the value of Honor.
Those who cheat, lie and steal are w/o Honor and have earned
disgrace and stigmatization from those who don't.
You do recognize the Biblical irony of what you saying with a handle like that, don't you?

Was just reading Samuel and was reminded that, although he was the son of David, he was decidedly without honor.
No punishment, in my opinion, is too great, for the man who can build his greatness upon his country's ruin~  George Washington

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Re: Handicapping the trade war
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2019, 07:39:44 pm »
You do recognize the Biblical irony of what you saying with a handle like that, don't you?

Was just reading Samuel and was reminded that, although he was the son of David, he was decidedly without honor.
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As you're well aware Honor was paramount in
Ancient Greece and Rome, a heritage the latter
left w/Britain who passed it to us.
China, an insular and introverted culture/society
since Adam, has no such heritage.

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Re: Handicapping the trade war
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2019, 08:08:14 pm »
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As you're well aware Honor was paramount in
Ancient Greece and Rome, a heritage the latter
left w/Britain who passed it to us.
China, an insular and introverted culture/society
since Adam, has no such heritage.
Japan was insulated far more, and its society had more honor than any other country, with Samurai serving unnervingly their masters.  This attitude persisted into the 20th century with suicide killings occurring.

I did not know China might be the way you describe, but I will defer to you.
No punishment, in my opinion, is too great, for the man who can build his greatness upon his country's ruin~  George Washington

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Re: Handicapping the trade war
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2019, 04:17:40 am »
Japan was insulated far more, and its society had more honor than any other country, with Samurai serving unnervingly their masters.  This attitude persisted into the 20th century with suicide killings occurring.

I did not know China might be the way you describe, but I will defer to you.
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Respectfully, w/an anecdote from history.
Your descriptive of Japan is largely correct.
Yet recall that Pierce sent Commodore Perry to Tokyo in 1854
to force open Japanese doors for trade, which was a success.
Yet it did something far more powerful to Japanese eyes.
For centuries Japan had been another insular Asian culture/society.
Then they looked outward and saw another island nation/state some
10,000 km to their west; the ranking world power, Great Britain.
After refection, the Japanese grasped the power of Naval supremacy
and then became the dominant force in Asia for the next century.
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