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Offline TomSea

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Glenn Beck had a guy on, I think it was Friday, named Felix Rodriguez who was a pivotal player in the Bay of Pigs incident, and a number of incidents afterwards, including in Vietnam, in Dallas when Kennedy got shot and when Ché was captured and killed.  He worked for the CIA and has some pretty amazing things to say about those historical events.  You can listen at Glenn Beck's website.  Very, very interesting.

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Again, thanks for the recommendation, I found it and watched some today. Will finish later. I'm not sure if I got to any mention of Dallas but I need to watch it fullly.
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Again, thanks for the recommendation, I found it and watched some today. Will finish later. I'm not sure if I got to any mention of Dallas but I need to watch it fullly.

If that guy did even half of what he said, he was amazing.  What a life!

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Exclusive: Pence to offer 'carrots' to Venezuela military, warnings to judges
Roberta Rampton

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Mike Pence is set on Tuesday to offer new incentives to Venezuela’s military to turn against President Nicolas Maduro, responding to an attempted uprising that fizzled out last week, a senior administration official told Reuters.

In a speech to the Americas Society at the State Department, scheduled for 3:25 p.m. (1925 GMT), Pence will also warn that the United States will soon move to sanction 25 additional magistrates on Venezuela’s supreme court, the official said on Monday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Pence will also offer assistance for refugees who have fled the country, and an economic aid package contingent on a political transition, according to the official.

Read more at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-usa-exclusive-idUSKCN1SD03T

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What this says is Maduro has overstayed his welcome, Maduro is not a legitimate leader. Or at least, through the legislature, Guiado is the legitimate interim president.

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Venezuela: Media Laziness or Complicity?
By Guest Contributor

There is no self-proclamation nor coup d’état, overthrowing a usurper from power cannot be illegal nor illegitimate
Constitutional president Guaidó during protests that support his claim against the urusper Maduro. (EFE)


By Héctor Schamis*

I have on my screen a list with hundreds of articles by the international press on Venezuela. There are some well-known names: CNN, France24, APNews, Reuters, BBC, Deutsche Welle, among others. The most reputed in USA, France, Great Britain, Germany, and other European nations. The list was provided by Juan Guaido’s interim government diplomats based in Washington. I was advised that the principle employed to create the list is how the political Venezuelan crisis is reported. In all these media, Guaidó is deemed as “self-proclaimed”.

There are links, so I click on them and go to the articles; I randomly choose. I ascertain, indeed, that they regard Guaidó as the “self-proclaimed president”. The reader can Google any of those media finding the same results: the words Guiadó and “self-proclaimed” will inevitably pop up.

I had the list with me, an Excel file, for a number of weeks. I did not even look at it, but I decided to do it now due to this week’s happenings: the uprising, the turmoil or civilian-military rebellion last Thursday. This occurrence can be called in many ways except for one: coup d’état. However, that was the way in which many in the press reported those events, the very same media that previously regarded Guaidó as “self-proclaimed”.

Read more at: https://panampost.com/editor/2019/05/06/venezuela-media-laziness-or-complicity/

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What this says is Maduro has overstayed his welcome, Maduro is not a legitimate leader. Or at least, through the legislature, Guiado is the legitimate interim president.
Not just the Legislature, but the Venezuelan Constitution. Guaido isn't "self-proclaimed" as the media have repeatedly trumpeted, but Constitutionally empowered. 
Because Guaido is the legitimate interim president, the 'coup' is being effected by Maduro, and not the other way around (Maduro is the usurper).
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Trump reportedly blames John Bolton for embroiling him in a potential Venezuelan quagmire
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President Trump is having second thoughts about "his administration's aggressive strategy in Venezuela," complaining to aides and advisers that "he was misled about how easy it would be to replace the socialist strongman," President Nicolás Maduro, with opposition leader Juan Guaidó, The Washington Post reports. "The president's dissatisfaction has crystallized around National Security Adviser John Bolton and what Trump has groused is an interventionist stance at odds with his view that the United States should stay out of foreign quagmires."

Officially, U.S. policy in Venezuela is the same, and last week's failed effort to oust Maduro has "effectively shelved serious discussion of a heavy U.S. military response," and "Trump is now not inclined to order any sort of military intervention in Venezuela," the Post reports, citing current and former officials and outside advisers. Instead, the U.S. is settling in to wait out Maduro on the expectation he will fall on his own, with the help of U.S. sanctions.

Read more at: https://theweek.com/speedreads/840304/trump-reportedly-blames-john-bolton-embroiling-potential-venezuelan-quagmire

Per the WaPo article, the story ends saying Bolton's job is thought to be safe all the same.

Round One seems to have been won by Maduro; but per Rubio, the guy really can't even travel around the nation, he's so unpopular.

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He didn't know what he was getting with Bolton?

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He didn't know what he was getting with Bolton?

This is Venezuela's "Bay of Pigs"

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The Bay of Pigs was a real mess and our executive branch probably reneged on our obligations. Air support.

55 years later, Venezuela? We are rightfully, imo,  intervention-shy. There is a time to act and a time not to.

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The Bay of Pigs was a real mess and our executive branch probably reneged on our obligations. Air support.

55 years later, Venezuela? We are rightfully, imo,  intervention-shy. There is a time to act and a time not to.
While I agree about the Bay of Pigs being an executive branch snafu, (air support would have made the difference), either we act or not. No half measures. Venezuela is part of the OAS, and I'm not sure what intervention that calls for, or when.
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Opinion | Rick Scott: U.S. military action in Venezuela may become a necessity
By Rick Scott May 10 at 8:25 AM

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Which brings me to Venezuela. I was at the border between Colombia and Venezuela a few weeks ago. What is happening in Venezuela is a human tragedy. Let’s look at the facts:

The United Nations estimates that 3.4 million refugees have fled the country. Almost 90 percent of the population lives in poverty, and shortages of food and medicine are becoming desperate.

This is a man-made crisis. Nicolás Maduro, the ruthless dictator of Venezuela, is killing his own citizens, including women and children. Venezuela has a legitimate constitutional leader: Juan Guaidó, who, as president of the National Assembly, the last democratically elected body in the country, is constitutionally required to serve as interim president until new free and fair elections take place. President Trump has skillfully called the world’s attention to the situation, and has amassed the support of more than 50 countries that recognize Guaidó as the legitimate president.

Read more at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/rick-scott-us-military-action-in-venezuela-may-become-a-necessity/2019/05/09/0d49a480-72a9-11e9-9f06-5fc2ee80027a_story.html?utm_term=.9549f364e4b2

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Russia’s Venezuela motives: It’s about the US, not Maduro.
Why We Wrote This

Historically, when Washington and Moscow have butted heads over a power struggle in a third-party nation, it’s been in a Cold War context. But the core issue over their divide on Venezuela today is simpler: staking out turf.

    By Fred Weir Correspondent   

Moscow

Many of the hallmarks of a classic great power rivalry between Russia and the United States are on display in Venezuela’s ongoing crisis: competing proxy forces on the ground, diplomatic finger-pointing, and starkly divergent visions of world order.

But while it may look and sound like a Cold War standoff, for Russia it is really about the simpler issue of establishing rules for competing big powers in a post-Cold War world.

In Venezuela, and between the U.S. and Russia generally, there is no sharp ideological divide over world-shaping doctrines like communism versus capitalism. The substantial stake Russia has accumulated in Venezuela over the past two decades has much to do with geopolitical and economic opportunities, but Russian affinity for former Venezuelan leader Hugo Chávez’ Bolivarian Socialism has no part in it.




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TIME:

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'We Are Watching Our People Die': The Human Toll at the Heart of Venezuela’s Crisis
By Jorge Benezra | Photographs by Alvaro Ybarra Zavala
May 9, 2019

In her cinder block home in Venezuela’s second city of Maracaibo, 14-year-old Ana Bravo puts her hand to her mouth to signal her hunger. She is waiting for her mother to cook up a plate of yucca root, her only meal for that day.

Suffering from malnutrition and a learning disability, Bravo weighs just 44 pounds (20 kilograms) and stands below four feet, her arms thin as bone, her belly swollen. “We only eat at night, so that we don’t go to bed with nothing,” says her mother Glennis Delgado. In this embattled South American nation, they survive on charity and thin government handouts.

Advisory: Graphic content could be disturbing to some readers.

Photo Essay at: http://time.com/longform/venezuela-hunger-crisis-alvaro-ybarra-zavala/

I've seen pictures here and there that show starvation.

Pretty nice little twitter account in Spanish, however, that's easily translated and she seems to really keep up with the latest events almost more than anyone else.

https://twitter.com/maibortpetit   

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https://twitter.com/ConflictsW/status/1127628008272093187

Pretty amazing display by electrical wires as the fireworks continue in Venezuela, I've heard there back to having "black outs" pretty commonly, I don't know if they ever really left.