Judge blocks Trump's wait-in-Mexico asylum policy

[Right_in_Virginia]

Judge blocks Trump's wait-in-Mexico asylum policy
Washington Times, Apr 8, 2019

A federal judge ordered the Trump administration to stop its new policy of sending asylum-seekers who jumped the border back to Mexico to wait while their cases proceed, ruling Monday that the plan was likely illegal.

Known informally as the “wait-in-Mexico policy,” and officially as the Migrant Protection Protocols, the plan was a major part of the administration’s moves to try to stem the flow of immigrants crossing into the U.S. illegally.

Judge Richard Seeborg, an Obama appointee to the bench, said not only does the policy violate immigration law, but Mexico is so dangerous that making asylum-seekers wait there — even if they’re not from Mexico — is untenable.

[...]

Migrants from Central America have figured out how to use asylum claims to gain a foothold in the U.S., where they are quickly released and disappear into the shadows. In moving ahead with the wait-in-Mexico policy, the administration hoped to deny them the chance to disappear into the U.S., figuring that would discourage some from coming.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/8/judge-blocks-trump-policy-returning-asylum-seekers/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Any deep thoughts on this @libertybele  @Chosen Daughter  @Smokin Joe ?

[sneakypete]

Since when do state judges decide foreign policy?

[verga]

My understanding is that you need to apply for asylum in the nearest consulate or embassy. Since they are "passing through" Mexico to get here, that would be where they apply. The judge has no business or standing. Ignore it.

[Smokin Joe]

Any deep thoughts on this @libertybele  @Chosen Daughter  @Smokin Joe ?

Yep. Article 2, Section 3 of the United States Constitution:

... he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed...

We have laws against crashing our borders. Kick them out.

Note Article 4, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

What more mandate does he need?
Article VI

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Judge is out of line.

[Hoodat]

A federal judge ordered the Trump administration to stop its new policy of sending asylum-seekers who jumped the border back to Mexico to wait while their cases proceed, ruling Monday that the plan was likely illegal.

Likely illegal?  What in the heck does "likely illegal" mean?  What a law broken or not?

[Hoodat]

8 U.S. Code § 1158

(a) Authority to apply for asylum

(1) In general

Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.

(2) Exceptions

(A) Safe third country

Paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien if the Attorney General determines that the alien may be removed, pursuant to a bilateral or multilateral agreement, to a country (other than the country of the alien’s nationality or, in the case of an alien having no nationality, the country of the alien’s last habitual residence) in which the alien’s life or freedom would not be threatened on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, and where the alien would have access to a full and fair procedure for determining a claim to asylum or equivalent temporary protection, unless the Attorney General finds that it is in the public interest for the alien to receive asylum in the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

Mexico has already agreed to help these aliens.  And the fact that they were able to travel 2500 miles through Mexico without arrest shows proves that their asylum designation is bogus.

[Sanguine]

My understanding is that you need to apply for asylum in the nearest consulate or embassy. Since they are "passing through" Mexico to get here, that would be where they apply. The judge has no business or standing. Ignore it.

That's my thought too.  Does Trump have what it takes to do the right thing?

[libertybele]

Any deep thoughts on this @libertybele  @Chosen Daughter  @Smokin Joe ?

@Right_in_Virginia realize that I support Trump's efforts to protect this country.  I can NOT and WILL not support him when he makes idles threats and does nothing!  I can NOT and WILL not support him when he signs a bill that grants amnesty or allows states to opt out of a barrier.  I can NOT and WILL not support a president that waits till he loses a majority of his Congress before he decides to act.  It was a futile attempt, he knew it and so did Nancy.  She called his lame bluff.  Trying to convince people that he was serious about the shutdown, or even building a wall is laughable as his actions speak otherwise.

Trump signed an e.o. on asylum in which he has every right to do so.   Bammy signed several e.o.'s and Holder was even ordered by judge(s) to comply they did not., iow -- Trump has the AUTHORITY he needs to follow through with his e.o.

We are being invaded.  HE has the right, authority and OBLIGATION to protect the citizens of this country from INVASION.  Isn't an invasion a declaration of war??

He also HAS THE AUTHORITY to declare a moratorium on ALL migration into this country (as has been done in the past) which would include those wanting asylum.  We are NOT the world's door step.

Him backing down with Mexico for a year is only giving those illegals notice that they've got a year to come here

[libertybele]

That's my thought too.  Does Trump have what it takes to do the right thing?

Remember that Trump has already NOT done the right thing. He has already allowed the U.N. to determine who gets in and who doesn't and is allowing them to determine where these people will be placed including inside the U.S.  I believe that he gave the e.o. AFTER he already agreed to allow U.N. policy to dictate to the U.S. 

Again, he waits and then acts after the fact.  It seems that learning on this issue as he goes along is costing us bigly.

[berdie]

My understanding is that you need to apply for asylum in the nearest consulate or embassy. Since they are "passing through" Mexico to get here, that would be where they apply. The judge has no business or standing. Ignore it.

That is my understanding as well. International law. So how does a judge overturn that?

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia realize that I support Trump's efforts to protect this country.  I can NOT and WILL not support him when he makes idles threats and does nothing!  I can NOT and WILL not support him when he signs a bill that grants amnesty or allows states to opt out of a barrier.  I can NOT and WILL not support a president that waits till he loses a majority of his Congress before he decides to act.  It was a futile attempt, he knew it and so did Nancy.  She called his lame bluff.  Trying to convince people that he was serious about the shutdown, or even building a wall is laughable as his actions speak otherwise.

Trump signed an e.o. on asylum in which he has every right to do so.   Bammy signed several e.o.'s and Holder was even ordered by judge(s) to comply they did not., iow -- Trump has the AUTHORITY he needs to follow through with his e.o.

We are being invaded.  HE has the right, authority and OBLIGATION to protect the citizens of this country from INVASION.  Isn't an invasion a declaration of war??

He also HAS THE AUTHORITY to declare a moratorium on ALL migration into this country (as has been done in the past) which would include those wanting asylum.  We are NOT the world's door step.

Him backing down with Mexico for a year is only giving those illegals notice that they've got a year to come here

Please, I beg you @libertybele  --- buy a vowel.

[libertybele]

Please, I beg you @libertybele  --- buy a vowel.

Look at all the posts from others in here @ RIV in regards to this issue.  The chaos at the border is absolutely shameful. There has NEVER been chaos like this at the border, even under Bammy.

When are you and the other Trumpers going to realize that you've been duped?  He has no intention of curtailing this invasion.  He's brought this chaos on, by his threats, tweets, and back pedaling.  He's lost ALL credibility.

[Hoodat]

The Donald Trump that I was sold would tell that judge to pound sand.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Look at all the posts from others in here @ RIV in regards to this issue.  The chaos at the border is absolutely shameful. There has NEVER been chaos like this at the border, even under Bammy.

When are you and the other Trumpers going to realize that you've been duped?  He has no intention of curtailing this invasion.  He's brought this chaos on, by his threats, tweets, and back pedaling.  He's lost ALL credibility.

Okay I was wrong.  You should buy TWO vowels.