3 more women accuse Biden of inappropriate contact

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3 more women accuse Biden of inappropriate contact
by Zachary Halaschak
 | April 03, 2019 11:51 PM



Three more women have come forward to accuse former Vice President Joe Biden of inappropriately touching them, bringing the total to seven.

Vail Kohnert-Yount, Sofie Karasek, and Ally Coll shared their experiences with the former vice president with the Washington Post.

Kohnert-Yount, a former White House intern, told the Post she was trying to exit the basement of the West Wing when Biden approached to shake her hand. Biden “put his hand on the back of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead while he talked to me," she said.

“I was so shocked that it was hard to focus on what he was saying. I remember he told me I was a ‘pretty girl,’” she said.

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[Applewood]

Ok, now we have women coming out of the woodwork making claims, but where is the proof?  Sure, there are photos of Biden getting touchy-feely with some ladies, but now this is sounding like Kavanaugh and Moore.  Accusations without proof. 

By the way, saying a woman is "pretty" is hardly assault or even inappropriate behavior.  I once worked for a small firm -- the head honcho was an older gentleman who would always notice and compliment the ladies on a new hairstyle or dress.  I guess if this gentleman was around now and complimented a woman, he would be crucified. 

[Jazzhead]

And none of these accusations represent sexual assault.    These are all attempts by Biden's rivals to take him down over his well-known "handsy" ways by inflating such behavior into something creepy and disqualifying.   

Let the Dems eat their own.   Mrs.  Jazz, by the way, is furious -  she's a long-long Dem who shares, as I do, the view that Biden is the strongest potential candidate against the Republicans.   I'm just letting her rant and rave - and secretly smiling.   

[musiclady]

I'm sorry, but this amuses me.

I'd say maybe this qualifies as Dems being hoisted by their own petard. 

[verga]

Show me some actual;l proof of legitimate real assault, or shut up

[musiclady]

Show me some actual;l proof of legitimate real assault, or shut up

Legally, I believe all the hands-on stuff without permission and with strangers qualifies as "assault," doesn't it?

Any of our TBR lawyers can correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think it's legally permissible to paw and nuzzle anyone you feel like pawing and nuzzling.

[verga]

Legally, I believe all the hands-on stuff without permission and with strangers qualifies as "assault," doesn't it?

Any of our TBR lawyers can correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think it's legally permissible to paw and nuzzle anyone you feel like pawing and nuzzling.

My understanding and I reserve the right to b e completely 100% dead wrong is that it required some degree of violence.
From what I have seen it is creepy, but does not rise to the level of assault.
 
noun
a sudden, violent attack; onslaught:
an assault on tradition.
Law . an unlawful physical attack upon another; an attempt or offer to do violence to another, with or without battery, as by holding a stone or club in a threatening manner.
Military . the stage of close combat in an attack.
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battery
the act of beating or battering.
Law . an unlawful attack upon another person by beating or wounding, or by touching in an offensive manner.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

2 years of unfounded/unproven accusation against a sitting POTUS.

It's not right, it's not binding, but it Does hang in the air.

And it colors perception, which shifts votes. Nasty games. They work.

[Free Vulcan]

I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.

[Hoodat]

My understanding and I reserve the right to b e completely 100% dead wrong is that it required some degree of violence.
From what I have seen it is creepy, but does not rise to the level of assault.

No one said it did.  Biden is just creepy.

[Snarknado]

Legally, I believe all the hands-on stuff without permission and with strangers qualifies as "assault," doesn't it?

Any of our TBR lawyers can correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think it's legally permissible to paw and nuzzle anyone you feel like pawing and nuzzling.

Assault might be too strong - I call it molestation. The handsy stuff might be borderline but uninvited kissing goes beyond innocent "affection". Either way, it's using a position of power to take advantage of women who aren't in a position to escape without making a scene. A few documented incidents like that would get you fired from most jobs...

[Right_in_Virginia]

Benjamin Babarsky @bbabarsky
 #joebiden at his childhood home in #scranton with a film crew, must be getting a campaign ad ready! #biden2020. 

[verga]

No one said it did.  Biden is just creepy.

See Music Lady's reply # 5 Legally, I believe all the hands-on stuff without permission and with strangers qualifies as "assault," doesn't it?

[verga]

Assault might be too strong - I call it molestation. The handsy stuff might be borderline but uninvited kissing goes beyond innocent "affection". Either way, it's using a position of power to take advantage of women who aren't in a position to escape without making a scene. A few documented incidents like that would get you fired from most jobs...

I was thinking "Sexual Harassment" But I do reserve the right to be 100% wrong.

[musiclady]

Assault might be too strong - I call it molestation. The handsy stuff might be borderline but uninvited kissing goes beyond innocent "affection". Either way, it's using a position of power to take advantage of women who aren't in a position to escape without making a scene. A few documented incidents like that would get you fired from most jobs...

Exactly.  No one but a Democrat politician gets away with this kind of personal imposition on women and children.

And @verga - I don't think assault is necessarily violent.  If you put your hands on someone else against their will, I believe it qualifies.

However, I agree with @Hoodat  - Biden is just plain creepy.  And again, if he weren't a Dem, he wouldn't be where he is today.

[Restored]

It shows a lack of respect for women.

[Jazzhead]

What's particularly satisfying is that Biden made it a signature issue during his time as Veep to fight the alleged "epidemic" of sexual assault on college campuses (based on flawed studies that defined "assault" broadly enough to include mere uncomfortable conduct),  including the Obama administration's efforts to curtail due process for students accused of sexual assault.   He made numerous speeches back then trumpeting the standard of affirmative consent and demanding that only "yes means yes". 

 And so now it appears that Handsy Joe's rhetoric was just another example of "rules for thee, but not for me".   

[Fishrrman]

Who here remembers Gloria Steinhem defending Clinton's transgressions with women by saying that a man was entitled to "one free grope" ??

I guess that applies only to males of the democrat-communist faith...

[Snarknado]

I was thinking "Sexual Harassment" But I do reserve the right to be 100% wrong.

Harassment isn't strong enough - that could be nothing more than a slightly off-color joke or foul language.