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John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
Smokin Joe:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 21, 2019, 10:01:44 am ---This group also includes many conservatives and many republicans --- their desired end of the Trump presidency dovetails with the democrats, socialists and especially the general enemies of a constitutional republic.
John McCain was most certainly an admiral of this, the combined largest group of NeverTrumpers. John McCain peddled a knowingly false dossier even after the election to bring down a duly elected president of the United States. And “Country First†McCain did so because he didn’t like him. Let this sink in.
This 21st century sedition is but chapter one in the legacy of Admiral McCain who served with relentless vigor in the NeverTrump war. The record will show he fought with the enemy.
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Conserrvatives to the LEFT of POTUS?
Conservative what?
I think you could look until your eyes shriveled up and fell out of your head, and you won't find a single American Constitutional Conservative to the LEFT of Donald Trump.
Thanks, for playing, dear.
Smokin Joe:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 21, 2019, 09:57:05 am ---Principles without a lick of common sense is a death sentence in politics. If you can’t understand where the American people are and reach them on their turf, stay out of politics. And this goes double for “principled conservativesâ€. Donald Trump is introducing a new generation to the principles of conservatism, and he’s doing so in their language; in their living rooms. He is reawakening a sense of American pride—in the nation, its values, its unlimited potential, independence to carve out one’s own life, and freedom from government interference that have been dormant for far too long.
You call this “populism†and despise it. Yet, it is downhome populism that gets up at the crack of dawn every day to earn a living, pays the taxes, sends their sons and daughters to fight wars and prays for a nation worth preserving. What they want in return is freedom from an overbearing government, a constitution to mean what it says, a nation state with its sovereignty secure, an uncluttered path to earning whatever wealth they desire, and room for God—even in the public square.
Yet principled conservatives recoil at this, and the people who live it. You make sense only to yourselves.
I am losing respect for those who virtue signal conservative “principlesâ€. It’s turning out it’s not really about principles, but the messenger. If you truly wanted to bring conservatism to life in the 21st Century you’d be on the Trump train, as repugnant as the accommodations may be to you.
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Your perception is flawed.
When your 'messenger' acts like a Conservative, he gets praise, when he doesn't he doesn't. Since the standards don't change, that ball is in his court, and it is that way for anyone. They are or they aren't.
Right_in_Virginia:
--- Quote from: Smokin Joe on March 21, 2019, 10:10:55 am ---Your perception is flawed.
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No it's not. It's not at all.
Right_in_Virginia:
--- Quote from: Smokin Joe on March 21, 2019, 10:05:55 am ---Conserrvatives to the LEFT of POTUS?
Conservative what?
I think you could look until your eyes shriveled up and fell out of your head, and you won't find a single American Constitutional Conservative to the LEFT of Donald Trump.
Thanks, for playing, dear.
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I know it hurts, pumpkin, but "conservatives" are in bed with liberals, socialists, communists in their efforts to derail Donald Trump. I'd call that to the LEFT of Hugo Chavez.
QueenCatofAragon:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 21, 2019, 09:57:05 am ---Principles without a lick of common sense is a death sentence in politics. If you can’t understand where the American people are and reach them on their turf, stay out of politics. And this goes double for “principled conservativesâ€. Donald Trump is introducing a new generation to the principles of conservatism, and he’s doing so in their language; in their living rooms. He is reawakening a sense of American pride—in the nation, its values, its unlimited potential, independence to carve out one’s own life, and freedom from government interference that have been dormant for far too long.
You call this “populism†and despise it. Yet, it is downhome populism that gets up at the crack of dawn every day to earn a living, pays the taxes, sends their sons and daughters to fight wars and prays for a nation worth preserving. What they want in return is freedom from an overbearing government, a constitution to mean what it says, a nation state with its sovereignty secure, an uncluttered path to earning whatever wealth they desire, and room for God—even in the public square.
Yet principled conservatives recoil at this, and the people who live it. You make sense only to yourselves.
I am losing respect for those who virtue signal conservative “principlesâ€. It’s turning out it’s not really about principles, but the messenger. If you truly wanted to bring conservatism to life in the 21st Century you’d be on the Trump train, as repugnant as the accommodations may be to you.
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@Right_in_Virginia
That’s a stirring speech, but it isn’t about just that. It’s about adoration of a public servant. And it’s amazing that the tone-deafness among hardcore Trump fans persists to the degree that you still don’t understand how to sell Trump without cultic language like “getting on his train.†If there’s a train, it’s ours, and Trump needs to be on it.
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