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Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« on: March 05, 2019, 07:26:36 pm »
Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
by Pete Kasperowicz
 | March 05, 2019 12:07 PM



House Democrats this week introduced legislation aimed at making sure Trump administration employees can still blow the whistle on "wrongdoing" in the government, even if they have signed a nondisclosure agreement.

The legislation follows last week's testimony from former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, who said President Trump often seeks NDAs from his staff. Reports over the last several months have said many senior White House staff have been required to sign NDAs as a condition of employment.

Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, D-Ill., introduced the bill after talking to Cohen last week about the use of NDAs.

"Would you agree that in the use of these types of NDAs, with this type of language, and later when Donald Trump sought to enforce them, that he intended to prevent people from coming forward with claims of wrongdoing?" Krishnamoorthi asked.

"Yes," Cohen replied.

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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2019, 07:39:16 pm »
How is that legal?  (it's not)

If anyone can just "gut" an ND at their whim (or at their desire to nail someone they don't like)... then all NDs would be relegated to being worthless.

I still think Trump should force Congress to 'come clean' about all those sexual harassment lawsuits for which they used taxpayer dollars to 'pay off' the accusers.

Talk about ""setting precedents"".    **nononono*
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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2019, 07:56:27 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 05, 2019, 07:39:16 pm
How is that legal?  (it's not)

If anyone can just "gut" an ND at their whim (or at their desire to nail someone they don't like)... then all NDs would be relegated to being worthless.

I still think Trump should force Congress to 'come clean' about all those sexual harassment lawsuits for which they used taxpayer dollars to 'pay off' the accusers.

Talk about ""setting precedents"".    **nononono*

Sure it’s legal.  The congressional research service wrote a report about the power of congress to interfere with contracts: 


http://nationalaglawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/assets/crs/R42635.pdf
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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2019, 08:16:27 pm »
n the United States, Congress is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution. The states are prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 1 of Article I, Section 10.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law#United_States

It is time hear from one of our excellent Conservative Christian Constitutional experts.
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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2019, 08:19:34 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on March 05, 2019, 07:56:27 pm
Sure it’s legal.  The congressional research service wrote a report about the power of congress to interfere with contracts: 


http://nationalaglawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/assets/crs/R42635.pdf

I am sure an argument will be made that an ex post facto law would be perfectly OK, because Donald Trump. 
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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2019, 08:20:56 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on March 05, 2019, 08:16:27 pm
n the United States, Congress is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution. The states are prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 1 of Article I, Section 10.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law#United_States

It is time hear from one of our excellent Conservative Christian Constitutional experts.

Ex post facto only applies to criminal statutes.  Annulling an NDA is not a criminal statute, and so not an ex post facto law.
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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2019, 08:22:06 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 05, 2019, 08:19:34 pm
I am sure an argument will be made that an ex post facto law would be perfectly OK, because Donald Trump. 

Ex post facto only applies to criminal statutes. That’s the wonder of the internet: google it and the answer pops up, in this case LII’s annotated US Constitution.  Might want to check it out.
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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2019, 08:23:47 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on March 05, 2019, 08:22:06 pm
Ex post facto only applies to criminal statutes. That’s the wonder of the internet: google it and the answer pops up, in this case LII’s annotated US Constitution.  Might want to check it out.

Good work.  One does not even have to be a clever lawyer to gut an enumerated right.
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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2019, 08:25:11 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 05, 2019, 08:23:47 pm
Good work.  One does not even have to be a clever lawyer to gut an enumerated right.

What enumerated right is that?   Maybe one needs to go consult with a clever lawyer?
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Re: Cohen testimony prompts Democratic bill to gut Trump's nondisclosure agreements
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2019, 08:52:02 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on March 05, 2019, 08:25:11 pm
What enumerated right is that?   Maybe one needs to go consult with a clever lawyer?

If one wants to set foot in a courtroom to argue one's case, that is exactly what you need...a clever lawyer.  It's mandatory.

Courts have evolved to the point where a Pro Per's case gets thrown straight into the trash before a hearing can take place.  Clever Judges only want to talk to equally clever lawyers.  Clients are mere third parties these days.
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