Trump, Kim Summit Ends With No Agreement

[TomSea]

Trump, Kim Summit Ends With No Agreement 

HANOI, VIETNAM —

U.S. President Donald Trump said his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un ended Thursday with no agreement because of a divide over the lifting of U.S. sanctions.

“Basically they wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety and we couldn’t do that,” Trump told reporters at a closing news conference in the Vietnamese capital, Hanoi, the venue for the talks.

“They were willing to denuke a large portion of the areas we wanted, but we couldn’t give up all the sanctions for that.” He said they discussed dismantling the Yongbyon nuclear complex and that Kim promised him North Korea would not conduct tests of rockets, missiles or anything nuclear.

Continued at:  https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-kim-summit-ends-with-no-agreement-/4807344.html

Trump-Kim summit breaks down over sanctions

A summit between US President Donald Trump and the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un ended with no agreement after the US refused North Korean demands for sanctions relief, President Trump said.

"It was about the sanctions," he said at a news conference. "They wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety and we couldn't do that."

The pair had been expected to announce progress on denuclearisation.

Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47398974

[edpc]

Later, when asked about the treatment of Otto Warmbier, an American student who spent 17 months in North Korean detention before being returned to the US in a vegetative state and subsequently dying, Trump denied Kim had been aware of the incident.

"He felt badly about it. He felt very badly," Trump said. "He tells me that he didn't know about it and I will take him at his word."

"I don't think that the top leadership knew about it," Trump added. "I don't believe that he (Kim) would have allowed that to happen."

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/27/politics/donald-trump-kim-jong-un-vietnam-summit/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F


Kim, Putin, bin Salman....he’s got a real problem with giving the absolute worst people the benefit of the doubt, publicly.

[Applewood]

The Art of the Deal

 

[mystery-ak]

Trump cuts short North Korea summit after dispute over sanctions: 'Sometimes you have to walk'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-wasnt-prepared-to-lift-us-sanctions-on-north-korea-leading-to-abrupt-end-to-summit

[TomSea]

[skeeter]

Perhaps Trump is reprising Reykjavik.

[TomSea]

A deal does not mean signing on to anything. I'm a bit surprised that Trump is being judged so harshly, the whole thing is a process. Surely, we will hear more analysis.

[edpc]

Perhaps Trump is reprising Reykjavik.

You mean the summit that eventually led to the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty that the Russians constantly violated and from which Trump just recently announced the process of withdrawal?

[skeeter]

You mean the summit that eventually led to the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty that the Russians constantly violated and from which Trump just recently announced the process of withdrawal?

Yes that one. BTW what is your point?

[TomSea]

No deal is better than a bad deal. It is unfortunate but we are at that point.

Marco Rubio
‏Verified account @marcorubio

Marco Rubio Retweeted Jonathan Swan

I would love to have a deal with #NorthKorea that eliminates their nuclear weapons & missiles in exhange for lifting many sanctions.

But agreeing to sanctions relief while allowing them to hide warheads & keep missiles would not just be a bad deal,it would be a dangerous one.

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1101144714517065729

That may be stating the obvious but isn't this part of it, not making bad deals.

[Dexter]

A deal does not mean signing on to anything. I'm a bit surprised that Trump is being judged so harshly, the whole thing is a process. Surely, we will hear more analysis.

People can't see the value in the tethers Trump is connecting I guess. No president has ever even met with NK leadership before. His progress is unprecedented and gives plenty of reason to hope.

[edpc]

Yes that one. BTW what is your point?

The point is rather obvious. Reykjavik led to a deal where we were the only ones living up to it for decades. Why would we want a repeat of that?

[Applewood]

A deal does not mean signing on to anything. I'm a bit surprised that Trump is being judged so harshly, the whole thing is a process. Surely, we will hear more analysis.

But for all his supposed skill at deal making, it looks like Trump can't negotiate anything as president.  His heavy handedness  may have worked for him in business, but when negotiating with foreign leaders, a certain amount of diplomacy is necessary.  Trump does not know how to be diplomatic.    Lately, even when negotiating on the home front, his negotiating skill consists of stomping his feet and walking out when he doesn't get his way. 

And I hate to tell him, but flattering dictators and our enemies doesn't impress them.  All it does is confirm to our enemies that Trump is weak and a pushover. 

[Bigun]

The point is rather obvious. Reykjavik led to a deal where we were the only ones living up to it for decades. Why would we want a repeat of that?

How many previous presidents have made deals with North Korea that were the exact repeats of that?

[skeeter]

The point is rather obvious. Reykjavik led to a deal where we were the only ones living up to it for decades. Why would we want a repeat of that?

Oh I see. Following that logic all such negotiations are a waste of time.

Anyway I think most others see Reagan's Reykjavik walkout as a successful negotiating ploy, regardless of what ultimately happened to the resulting agreement.

[edpc]

How many previous presidents have made deals with North Korea that were the exact repeats of that?

One...two if you count Carter’s participation in it. It’s the gold standard as to why NK is not a trustworthy partner in negotiations.

[edpc]

Oh I see. Following that logic all such negotiations are a waste of time.

Anyway I think most others see Reagan's Reykjavik walkout as a successful negotiating ploy, regardless of what ultimately happened to the resulting agreement.

So tactics used in what ultimately results in a bad deal are what matters? FFS.

[skeeter]

So tactics used in what ultimately results in a bad deal are what matters? FFS.

Lol.

Some problems can only be fixed by total thermonuclear war.

[TomSea]

People can't see the value in the tethers Trump is connecting I guess. No president has ever even met with NK leadership before. His progress is unprecedented and gives plenty of reason to hope.

[Absalom]

Compared to the US, NK is an economic carcass w/a military ranking w/Namibia.
Meeting w/ them bestows undeserved stature and unearned notoriety.
Their missiles threaten Japan, Philippines, Taiwan, among several; hardly us.
Fat Boy won't surrender his nukes because his generals would revolt and shoot him.
Commencing w/the Japanese occupation in 1910, Koreans have gravitated to the South
and as a result, Seoul is the economic and intellectual center of gravity on the Peninsula,
while the North remains barren, frigid, devoid of both arable land and natural resources.
The result of this Summit gives our Journo Schmucks something to yap about; nothing more.


 

[Sanguine]

Trump cuts short North Korea summit after dispute over sanctions: 'Sometimes you have to walk'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-wasnt-prepared-to-lift-us-sanctions-on-north-korea-leading-to-abrupt-end-to-summit

I sure wish he had walked onthat last budget bill.

[skeeter]

I sure wish he had walked onthat last budget bill.

No kidding. The rats are no more trustworthy.

[Absalom]

I sure wish he had walked onthat last budget bill.

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Agree.

[Bigun]

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Agree.

I think that is one thing that is pretty much agreed to across the board here.

[Fishrrman]

See:
Reagan and Gorbachev at Reykjavik...