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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2019, 06:22:35 pm »
Perhaps because back then... it wasn't crystal clear that this is, indeed, an orchestrated crisis (orchestrated by America's enemies, like Soros).... and perhaps because, much like the wheels of justice and anything done by ""G"" government.... 

it takes forfrickinever for them to act on something/anything, emergency/crisis/whatever or not.


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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2019, 06:29:05 pm »
Technically YES. And I mean that Obama should not have done so either.
But this is different in that Congress has very specifically limited him, and he is very specifically using his emergency powers to defy congress.

That they let Obama slide on it is incidental. This congress will not let Tump slide, I can guarantee it. And he is in the wrong. It is misappropriation of funds.

IMHO the President is NOT re-allocating anything!  He is simply directing how funds already allocated are to be spent!  Something that is FULLY within his powers as the chief executive.
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2019, 06:33:41 pm »
IMHO the President is NOT re-allocating anything!  He is simply directing how funds already allocated are to be spent!  Something that is FULLY within his powers as the chief executive.

I don't think that is true. And most of the Conservative senators are saying the same thing... They are unsure if his position is lawful, so I am not alone.

One way or the other, I guarantee that we will find out. this will go to scotus.


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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2019, 06:36:12 pm »
I don't think that is true. And most of the Conservative senators are saying the same thing... They are unsure if his position is lawful, so I am not alone.

One way or the other, I guarantee that we will find out. this will go to scotus.

I'll just say that I'd trust Cruz over DJT any day of the week.
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2019, 06:36:46 pm »
I don't think that is true. And most of the Conservative senators are saying the same thing... They are unsure if his position is lawful, so I am not alone.

One way or the other, I guarantee that we will find out. this will go to scotus.

On that, we are in full agreement!
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2019, 06:37:41 pm »
I'll just say that I'd trust Cruz over DJT any day of the week.

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2019, 06:43:07 pm »
Shaky ground does not, however, equate to unconstitutional and/or illegal.

Sorry @XenaLee ... I didn't see you...

It may not equate - but then again it may... And I would bet that this House will go there.

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2019, 06:43:53 pm »
On that, we are in full agreement!

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2019, 06:45:39 pm »
Technically YES. And I mean that Obama should not have done so either.
But this is different in that Congress has very specifically limited him, and he is very specifically using his emergency powers to defy congress.

That they let Obama slide on it is incidental. This congress will not let Tump slide, I can guarantee it. And he is in the wrong. It is misappropriation of funds.

So basically... what you are saying, in essence, is that 'this' Congress set Trump up for da big "I"... via that heinous bill he just signed (a trap).  Ok, I can see that.  But I'm still ok with what he is doing... so let the chips (cow? buffalo? DemocRat?) fall where they may.   :laugh:
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2019, 06:47:29 pm »
Sorry @XenaLee ... I didn't see you...

It may not equate - but then again it may... And I would bet that this House will go there.

Oh, they will definitely go there.   Whether or not they will succeed (legally) is another matter.
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2019, 06:49:13 pm »
I'll just say that I'd trust Cruz over DJT any day of the week.

Cruz's judgment has been spot-on (unlike Trump's)... despite all of the naysaying idiots that bleat otherwise.
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2019, 06:51:13 pm »
So basically... what you are saying, in essence, is that 'this' Congress set Trump up for da big "I"... via that heinous bill he just signed (a trap).  Ok, I can see that.  But I'm still ok with what he is doing... so let the chips (cow? buffalo? DemocRat?) fall where they may.   :laugh:

No, Tump is setting himself up.

However it is, I am most certainly not ok with it. It is the principle of the thing.

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2019, 06:52:54 pm »
Cruz's judgment has been spot-on (unlike Trump's)... despite all of the naysaying idiots that bleat otherwise.

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2019, 06:52:56 pm »
Whatever happens in the courts, the issue is now front and center of the American political lexicon and only one man gets the credit for putting it there.
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2019, 06:54:09 pm »
Whatever happens in the courts, the issue is now front and center of the American political lexicon and only one man gets the credit for putting it there.

YEP.
Duncan friggin Hunter.

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #90 on: February 28, 2019, 06:55:07 pm »
No, Tump is setting himself up.

However it is, I am most certainly not ok with it. It is the principle of the thing.

Your principles are obviously better than mine...lol.  In the case/issue of saving this nation from the leftist radicals.... I'm all in re: doing whatever is necessary.    888mouth
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #91 on: February 28, 2019, 06:55:51 pm »
No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #92 on: February 28, 2019, 06:57:07 pm »
Cruz's judgment has been spot-on (unlike Trump's)... despite all of the naysaying idiots that bleat otherwise.

Damn straight.  It gives me a good feeling seeing the two bozos (Stone and Pecker) getting fried for DJT association.

Cruz' character assasination by these two??????    I hope these mofos get thrown under the jail.
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #93 on: February 28, 2019, 06:57:40 pm »
1. There is no such thing as a Conservative in Congress.

2. They all have had enough time.

3.  WHY IN THE TRIPLE F*** ARE THEY UNSURE WHETHER THIS IS LEGAL!!!!???

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #94 on: February 28, 2019, 06:59:21 pm »
YEP.
Duncan friggin Hunter.

Nope!  Donald J. Trump!
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #95 on: February 28, 2019, 07:03:48 pm »
Your principles are obviously better than mine...lol.  In the case/issue of saving this nation from the leftist radicals.... I'm all in re: doing whatever is necessary.    888mouth

NOPE. By the book. We are a nation of laws, not people.

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #96 on: February 28, 2019, 07:09:31 pm »
NOPE. By the book. We are a nation of laws, not people.

I've always been a rebel (with or without cause...lol).

I get what you're saying.  But.... desperate times call for desperate measures (pardon cliche).
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #97 on: February 28, 2019, 07:10:28 pm »
I've always been a rebel (with or without cause...lol).

I get what you're saying.  But.... desperate times call for desperate measures (pardon cliche).

That's all fine till the precedent is used the other way around.

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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #98 on: February 28, 2019, 07:18:47 pm »
That's all fine till the precedent is used the other way around.

The problem with that is.... our opponents have already proven, over and above and beyond all doubt.... that they are willing to SET any precedent ....vs. merely following one (See: Democrats change rules to pass ObamaCare against the will of the majority of Americans).
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Re: Ted Cruz still unconvinced on Trump’s emergency declaration
« Reply #99 on: February 28, 2019, 07:22:03 pm »
The problem with that is.... our opponents have already proven, over and above and beyond all doubt.... that they are willing to SET any precedent ....vs. merely following one (See: Democrats change rules to pass ObamaCare against the will of the majority of Americans).

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