ISIS wife dilemma: US-born citizens, even terrorists, can't be barred from re-entry, experts say

[Right_in_Virginia]

ISIS wife dilemma: US-born citizens, even terrorists, can't be barred from re-entry, experts say
Fox News, Feb 20, 2019, Hollie McKay

She married into one of the most brutal terrorist outfits in history, but now Alabama native Hoda Muthana, 24, wants to come home along with the 18-month-son she had with an ISIS husband.

The question is weighing heavily among American legislators, law enforcement and intelligence analysts. What to do with the wives of the ISIS fighters and what threat do they pose to the homeland?

“They should be brought home and charged criminally under terrorism, murder or other applicable laws. At the very least they should be charged with material support to a terrorist group,” Scott Stewart, VP of Tactical Analysis for Stratfor, a leading geopolitical analysis and forecasting firm, told Fox News. “These women should be held responsible for their choices and actions in support of a genocidal death cult.”

But in an odd twist of events on Wednesday, two days after the dramatic pledge, U.S Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed that Muthana "is not a U.S citizen and will not be admitted into the United States." He insisted "she does not have any legal basis, no valid U.S passport, nor any visa to travel to the United States."


More:  https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-wife-dilemma-citizens-even-terrorists-cant-be-barred-from-entry

[Right_in_Virginia]

[Right_in_Virginia]

Will the democrats now rally around Hoda?

[goodwithagun]

Will the democrats now rally around Hoda?

🤞🤞🤞

[skeeter]

Will the democrats now rally around Hoda?

One American hating piece of sh*t living on the public dole = one rat vote.

The answer is of course they will.

[Sanguine]

Under the 14th Amendment, according to Stewart, native-born citizens – such as Muthana was initially reported to be prior to Pompeo's statement – cannot have their citizenship revoked against their will, although they can renounce citizenship if desired.

“A naturalized citizen can be denaturalized if they achieved citizenship via fraud, or if they are members of a subversive group – ISIS and al Qaeda would count as such –  within five years of being naturalized,” he observed. “That means the U.S. government cannot prevent the women from entering the U.S. if they get here. However, getting to the U.S. could prove to be a challenge if they have lost or destroyed their passports and/or if they have been added to the no-fly list as potential terrorists.”

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“Legally, we don’t have an obligation to facilitate travel home, but an American who arrives at the border can’t be barred from entry,” explained Dr. Ardian Shajkovci, the director of research at the International Center for the Study of Violent Extremism (ICSVE). “Legally we can only prosecute for laws that were in place at the time of their travel, so no ex post facto prosecution.”

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But if there is evidence enough to prosecute, they are prosecuted as terrorists, Shajkovci said – usually under material support for terrorism laws which allow us to prosecute for giving bodily support, money etc. – they can’t just return home and not face the law.

“The U.S. has not thus far refused to take anyone back, but they could,” he continued. “The UK has stripped citizenship and others have as well, especially when there are dual citizenships.”

I don't know if this is what Pompeo is using to justify this. 

[mystery-ak]

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US to ISIS bride: You are not a citizen and deserve nothing

By Natalie Musumeci and Ruth Brown

February 20, 2019 | 2:27pm | Updated

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Wednesday said “ISIS bride” Hoda Muthana is not a US citizen and will not be allowed back into America.

“Ms. Hoda Muthana is not a U.S. citizen and will not be admitted into the United States. She does not have any legal basis, no valid U.S. passport, no right to a passport, nor any visa to travel to the United States. We continue to strongly advise all U.S. citizens not to travel to Syria,” he said in a statement.

But a lawyer for Muthana — who grew up in Alabama and fled to Syria in 2014 to join ISIS, but is now in a refugee camp, begging to be allowed back into the United States — insisted to The Post that she is indeed a citizen.

“Hoda was born in the United States. She absolutely is a citizen. The Department of State is wrong,” said Hassan Shibly, adding that she was born in Hackensack, New Jersey, in 1994.

“It’s because they’re claiming her dad was a diplomat and the argument is that children of diplomats even if they’re born in the US are not citizens.”

Buzzfeed reported in 2015 that it had confirmed she was a US citizen.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/20/mike-pompeo-isis-bride-begging-to-return-to-us-is-not-a-citizen/?utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=Native&utm_campaign=NYPFacebook&fbclid=IwAR2azRbh14gyU0Wmp8XS4-U-PA2N8mlGjwFt8cl2dbnRlLXhXfsKSGoy-4M

[dfwgator]

Bet you a dollar a court will overturn, and allow her to come back.

[Right_in_Virginia]

According to the New York Times, Muthana had an American passport when she left the U.S. Pompeo’s statement did not make clear whether her citizenship had been revoked or if she was ever a U.S. citizen.

More than four years ago, she bought a plane ticket to Turkey with her college tuition money and was smuggled into Syria. The 24-year-old has been married to three ISIS fighters, two who were killed and a third she divorced.

After joining ISIS, she witnessed executions and urged others to join the group in social media posts that were critical of the U.S.

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The U.K. refused to allow a London teenager back into the country after she said last week she wants to “come home” after joining ISIS four years ago.

Shamima Begum, 19, told the Times of London she did not regret running away to Syria, but fears for her newborn’s life. Begum gave birth over the weekend and has had two other children die in Syria.

The U.K. said it plans on revoking her British citizenship to prevent her from returning.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/pompeo-says-isis-bride-cannot-return-to-us-because-she-is-not-a-citizen

[truth_seeker]

Regardless of her status when she left, I trust there are provisions for revoking her citizenship for cause.

[goodwithagun]

Regardless of her status when she left, I trust there are provisions for revoking her citizenship for cause.

If, and I mean if, she’s a legal US citizen then the complications arise with her child. That baby is a US citizen and has done nothing wrong. It’s like reverse anchor baby.

[EdJames]

Bet you a dollar a court will overturn, and allow her to come back.

It's as if we have no laws....  no rules....  courts make the laws and rules to fit the desires of the anti-American forces.

[Fishrrman]

If she gets on a plane and ends up here...

... Fine. Put her on another plane...

... To Guantanamo.