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The House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on a government appropriations bill Thursday evening and, with a day until the vote, lawmakers still have not received the text of the legislation.

“No one has seen the final wording of a long and complicated bill we will be expected to vote on tomorrow evening,” Republican Maryland Rep. Andy Harris told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “That’s no way to run a legislature.”

Republican Study Chairman Mike Johnson also confirmed that “as of lunch on Wednesday, members of the RSC, and to our knowledge, even members of the conference committee, had not seen the text.”

“It has been reported that [House Majority Leader Steny] Hoyer has said if the bill is dropped today we will consider it tomorrow. This is reminiscent of the, ‘you must pass it to find out what is in it,’ Obamacare debacle,” Johnson said to TheDCNF. “This bill is expected to be well over 1,000 pages, and we will potentially have less than 24 hours to digest it. This is absurd.”

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“Pelosi and the Democrats promised a full 72 hours to review legislation,” a senior conservative congressional aide told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “But now we’re voting on a massive, probably thousands-page long conference report tomorrow and we haven’t even seen text the day before? This is worse than under Speaker Ryan.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/13/house-vote-spending-bill-read/
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How will this ever be stopped?

They make "rules" with no intention of keeping them.

They refuse the discipline of Regular Order and have stopped the Budget process many years ago.

Now, the order of the day is a constant series of massive omnibus spending bills and continuing resolutions that are rolled out in order to satisfy their goals of keeping spending issues at bay during re-election campaigns and to just keep the gravy train of deficit spending rolling along without regard to need, Constitutionality, or ability to pay.

How will this ever be stopped?

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How will this ever be stopped?

They make "rules" with no intention of keeping them.

They refuse the discipline of Regular Order and have stopped the Budget process many years ago.

Now, the order of the day is a constant series of massive omnibus spending bills and continuing resolutions that are rolled out in order to satisfy their goals of keeping spending issues at bay during re-election campaigns and to just keep the gravy train of deficit spending rolling along without regard to need, Constitutionality, or ability to pay.

How will this ever be stopped?

I doubt it will be anytime soon.  Nancy is simply picking up where she left off before she became minority leader back in 2010. These are the same tactics she instigated when she was speaker the first time.
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How will this ever be stopped?
We have met the enemy, and it is us.
 
Bad behavior follows bad culture.

And so, this will continue indefinitely until (or unless) the American people decide to stop asking for unearned favors from our elected representatives.

In effect, we are giving away our freedom and abdicating our responsibilities in exchange for false promises of security to be paid by faceless and nameless others.
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I doubt it will be anytime soon.  Nancy is simply picking up where she left off before she became minority leader back in 2010. These are the same tactics she instigated when she was speaker the first time.

Unfortunately we didn't see the return to Regular Order promised loudly by Speaker Boehner or Speaker Ryan either.

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We have met the enemy, and it is us.
 
Bad behavior follows bad culture.

And so, this will continue indefinitely until (or unless) the American people decide to stop asking for unearned favors from our elected representatives.

In effect, we are giving away our freedom and abdicating our responsibilities in exchange for false promises of security to be paid by faceless and nameless others.

Sadly true.

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Here is a link to the 29 page summary if any one chooses to read 'em and weep.

https://www.scribd.com/document/399623170/Summary-of-Conference-Appropriations-Report

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Here is a link to the 29 page summary if any one chooses to read 'em and weep.

https://www.scribd.com/document/399623170/Summary-of-Conference-Appropriations-Report

Thanks! But I'm afraid to look!  My blood pressure won't stand it.
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Here you go, @Bigun:


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WOW! Buried in the spending agreement is a de facto amnesty for anyone near a UAC. This will exacerbate the border crisis and threaten public safety, as many MS-13 arrests have been UACs.
 
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There are so many "landmines" that I have to think that maybe they are daring him to not sign this abomination (fancy word for crap sandwich)?

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Line item veto, Mr. President.
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Here is a link to the 29 page summary if any one chooses to read 'em and weep.

https://www.scribd.com/document/399623170/Summary-of-Conference-Appropriations-Report

The only part of these type of bills that would interest any legislator would be those that impact their constituents and/or pet projects.
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Sweet and simple....    The government is the enemy.  I love how this shit seems to show up each year as we get ready for our April 15th screwing.
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How will this ever be stopped?
Convention of States

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Convention of States

Tea party couldn’t get traction, so now it will take more

Bingo!
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Convention of States

Tea party couldn’t get traction, so now it will take more

Somebody is going to have to explain to me what about further amending the Constitution is going to make these Aholes pay any attention to it whatever!
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Somebody is going to have to explain to me what about further amending the Constitution is going to make these Aholes pay any attention to it whatever!

Can a convention remove amendments?
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Can a convention remove amendments?

No! But it could propose removing as many of them as they like. Still would need 3/4 of the states to ratify anything they propose.
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There are so many "landmines" that I have to think that maybe they are daring him to not sign this abomination (fancy word for crap sandwich)?

She's pulling the same trick she did with Obamacare...ram it through...pass it on party lines before anyone has a chance to read what they've hidden in the back pages that undermines anything the President is trying to do on immigration.
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Can a convention remove amendments?

It can't remove them but An Article V Convention of States can repeal a previously approved amendment by proposing a new Amendment to repeal an old one..

The 21st Amendment repealed the 18th Amendment.
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It can't remove them but An Article V Convention of States can repeal a previously approved amendment by proposing a new Amendment to repeal an old one..

The 21st Amendment repealed the 18th Amendment.

Then repeal the 16th.
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   And the 17th! 

  (Repealing the 19th would be the icing on the cake) :bolt:
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Then repeal the 16th.

That's one along with the 17th that's been discussed.  The 16th would be replaced with an amendment implementing a flat tax or something along those lines.

The 17th would repeal popular vote for Senators which was a "present" Woodrow Wilson left us when he wasn't re-segregating the Federal Government and having viewings of "Birth of A Nation" in the WH.
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That's one along with the 17th that's been discussed.  The 16th would be replaced with an amendment implementing a flat tax or something along those lines.

The 17th would repeal popular vote for Senators which was a "present" Woodrow Wilson left us when he wasn't re-segregating the Federal Government and having viewings of "Birth of A Nation" in the WH.

I would like to see term limits.
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