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Graham Calls on Trump to Declare National Emergency if There's No Deal to Fund a Border Wall After Three-Week Extension
Lauretta Brown

Posted: Jan 25, 2019 5:40 PM

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called on President Trump to declare a national emergency to fund a border wall if, after the three-week government funding deal that was announced Friday afternoon to re-open the government, the Democrats were still unwilling to compromise on wall funding.

“Come February the 15th, if the Democrats still say: ‘Go to hell on the wall, you get a dollar, that’s it.’ They basically tell Trump, ‘I’m not going to do with you what I did with Bush and Obama,’ then I hope he will go the emergency route,” he told Fox News.

The legality of such a move has been debated and President Trump did consider it during the longest government shutdown in history.

“We don't need to shut the government down, we need to secure the border,” Graham added. “And to me, the last best chance to do this win-win is between now and Feb. 15.”

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I hope Trump declares a National Emergency. We know a liberal judge will stop it, but an issue of this magnitude should be fast tracked to the Supreme Court. I have no illusion that the demcoms will allow a penny for barriers.
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I hope Trump declares a National Emergency. We know a liberal judge will stop it, but an issue of this magnitude should be fast tracked to the Supreme Court. I have no illusion that the demcoms will allow a penny for barriers.

They have already shown that they have absolutely no desire to negotiate.  They are doing their celebratory dance and Nancy is showing off her gavel. (again).  They are whooping it up making an ass out of Trump.  Why would he wait?  Go now and don't turn back.  Nothing to loose at this point.  And that is three weeks toward whatever legal fight to get to the Supreme Court.
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In three weeks or a month 1-2 more caravans of 10-20 thousand immigrants can arrive.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Waiting and expecting Trump to declare a national emergency is pointless.  He's not going to.  Is there anything that the DEMS have indicated that they are willing to negotiate on?  No.  Therefore, the 3 weeks that the government is re-opened is going to do what?  People will get paid, but we won't be any closer to DEMS agreeing to anything.  He's wasting time.  Why?  Just like he wasted time for first 2 years of his presidency when he had the full majority.

They are all playing the blame game and putting on a circus show.  He's made fools out of all of his supporters.  Those waiting for him to declare a national emergency are going to be waiting for an awfully long time.  It's not gong to happen. 
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Waiting and expecting Trump to declare a national emergency is pointless.  He's not going to.  Is there anything that the DEMS have indicated that they are willing to negotiate on?  No.  Therefore, the 3 weeks that the government is re-opened is going to do what?  People will get paid, but we won't be any closer to DEMS agreeing to anything.  He's wasting time.  Why?  Just like he wasted time for first 2 years of his presidency when he had the full majority.

They are all playing the blame game and putting on a circus show.  He's made fools out of all of his supporters.  Those waiting for him to declare a national emergency are going to be waiting for an awfully long time.  It's not gong to happen.

It sure seems like it doesn't it?  Putting those people through the shutdown just to cave.  Nancy is doing her victory lap with her gavel.  Trump pretending that in three weeks things will be different than today.  My heart sank for America when I heard the news.  All for nothing.  I wasn't without sympathy for the workers but they are a few and this is our entire country being invaded because once again we fold.
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In three weeks or a month 1-2 more caravans of 10-20 thousand immigrants can arrive.

This is the stuff of national emergencies.   :smokin:

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People are clamoring for a Declaration of Emergency to build the wall. Not a good idea.

First, a Hawaiian judge will immediately put a stay on this and rule it's unconstitutional.

Now, the US Supreme Court would likely NOT take it up in any kind of expedited way. So we're looking at a year, minimum---but the Supreme Court COULD lift the stay.

However, that would require John Roberts to vote the right way. Raise your hand if you trust Roberts.

What could happen is that the stay remains in place and then NOTHING happens. Meanwhile, Congress, absolved of all funding responsibility by the Declaration of Emergency, would not take up ANY funding of the border or wall, saying, "That's being litigated. Wait for the Court decision."

If Trump proceeds to try to build in defiance of a judge's stay, the House would immediately impeach and, because it's an obvious violation of a judicial order, the Senate vote to remove would be a lot closer than you may think.

Right now I think Minion, Sasshole, MurCowSki, Tom Collins, and probably Isaackson would vote to remove, giving the Ds 53. They would be short, but you still have Burrito, Mel Tillis, the retiring Alexander, Jodi Ernst, Gardner, and possibly McSally. Now your'e at 59 and in range. Not saying removal would be likely, but that it would be a lot closer than people think under the circumstances I've outlined.

Moreover, what people do NOT understand---especially the dicknipples at National Review and boobs like Ann Coulter and Ben Shapiro---is that Trump is the most FEDERALIST president we've had at least since Reagan. He said DACA was not something for an executive order, that Congress had to fix it. Same with this. This is an appropriation that Congress needs to make and Trump does not want to violate the separation of powers. Believe it or not, he has been really good about observing that.
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Larry Schweikart
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People are clamoring for a Declaration of Emergency to build the wall. Not a good idea.

First, a Hawaiian judge will immediately put a stay on this and rule it's unconstitutional.

Now, the US Supreme Court would likely NOT take it up in any kind of expedited way. So we're looking at a year, minimum---but the Supreme Court COULD lift the stay.

However, that would require John Roberts to vote the right way. Raise your hand if you trust Roberts.

What could happen is that the stay remains in place and then NOTHING happens. Meanwhile, Congress, absolved of all funding responsibility by the Declaration of Emergency, would not take up ANY funding of the border or wall, saying, "That's being litigated. Wait for the Court decision."

If Trump proceeds to try to build in defiance of a judge's stay, the House would immediately impeach and, because it's an obvious violation of a judicial order, the Senate vote to remove would be a lot closer than you may think.

Right now I think Minion, Sasshole, MurCowSki, Tom Collins, and probably Isaackson would vote to remove, giving the Ds 53. They would be short, but you still have Burrito, Mel Tillis, the retiring Alexander, Jodi Ernst, Gardner, and possibly McSally. Now your'e at 59 and in range. Not saying removal would be likely, but that it would be a lot closer than people think under the circumstances I've outlined.

Moreover, what people do NOT understand---especially the dicknipples at National Review and boobs like Ann Coulter and Ben Shapiro---is that Trump is the most FEDERALIST president we've had at least since Reagan. He said DACA was not something for an executive order, that Congress had to fix it. Same with this. This is an appropriation that Congress needs to make and Trump does not want to violate the separation of powers. Believe it or not, he has been really good about observing that.

My theory is this is exactly what the Dim's want.. :tinfoil:

They know a GOP president setting the precedent gives cover for the next Dim president to call national emergencies on guns, climate, conservative speech and anything else they need to enact their socialist utopia...they know a Dim president will use the power in a heartbeat.... :shrug:

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This is the stuff of national emergencies.   :smokin:

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    a serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action.

I just don't see how Our Need for a Wall, fits the definition of a National Emergency.

 I just may be daft, but I don't see it.

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I just don't see how Our Need for a Wall, fits the definition of a National Emergency.

 I just may be daft, but I don't see it.

Maybe you are because people are coming into the country unchecked.  If you didn't believe it was a threat then why don't we stop checking people at ports of entry and airports?  We check because there are people who desire to do harm to this country.  And several Middle Easterners, even ones on the terror watch list have been apprehended crossing illegally from the Southern border.

Furthermore it isn't just terror list but violent gang members, people who human traffic women and children or those who bring dangerous drugs across the border.  Not always at ports of entry.  Take a look at what the Mexican Drug Cartel do to people in Mexico.  You believe that they only kill in their own country?  No, they don't.  They have hit men right here in the United States and they are not wanting anyone to slow their business.  I have read that these drug cartels have connections with terror groups also.  So saying there is no threat?

You tell me is this a threat?  This is what they are doing just over the border.  That's why we shouldn't worry that people are coming unchecked.

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   The Border has been there for 166 years and has withstood the Pancho's and Zapata's, with US Army help.  Somehow, NOW, it is an Emergency, so the producers say. 
   Remove the Jobs/Bennies and they will stop coming, they are not an overly stupid class of people.
   No one in DC wants to address the real problem and instead just feed their base with illusions and BS.
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I hope Trump declares a National Emergency. We know a liberal judge will stop it, but an issue of this magnitude should be fast tracked to the Supreme Court. I have no illusion that the demcoms will allow a penny for barriers.

I agree. It might get tied up in the courts awhile, but it's better to fight it out than walk away without making the effort.
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I never claimed that it was not a threat. It has been allowed to go on for so long that it cannot be defined as an Emergency.

The real threat is that our supposed representatives will do nothing about curtailing all the enticements that attract all the migrants to invade our country.

If these enticements are not removed, I'm afraid that a wall will do no good in keeping them out.

They will find a way.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called on President Trump to declare a national emergency to fund a border wall if ... the Democrats were still unwilling to compromise on wall funding.”

No sh*t, Sherlock. Trump had planned to take Nancy and Chuck bowling after the temporary spending bill lapsed without wall funding – but, hey, I bet Trump never thought of that national emergency angle.  What a good idea you got there, sparky. 

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Of course, he’ll go there. Trump’s only hinted a thousand times that’s his ace in the hole. What, in Trump’s time in office, suggests he would hesitate to pull the trigger on his threat if there’s no money for the wall?
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This is the stuff of national emergencies.   :smokin:
If so, it has only taken 60 years to get around to doing something about it. Measures can be taken well within the authority of the office of the POTUS without declaring an emergency to get around Congress. It would be good experience for combat engineers and others to build such barriers as might be needed elsewhere, for whatever reason, and the training exercises could coincide geographically with trouble areas.
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