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Re: Ted Cruz Issues Statement
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2019, 05:51:56 pm »
@jpsb
That’s a cop out.


Our public schools, just like our government, is doing exactly the job we allow them to do.

Bull, in the 50s, 60s USA was tops in education. Until late 70s our kids still scored at or near the top
of all industrial nations. Now we are dead last in every category. Stupid voters vote for stupid things.
The younger generations thinks socialism is a good thing.

I blame teachers unions for our failing public schools. But mass migration from the 3rd world isn't
helping. Neither is inner city crime/gangs.

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« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2019, 05:55:14 pm »
There is a reason both parties have primaries. Vote your convictions in the primaries, vote your party
in the general. That is what most intelligent people do. Only go third party if your parties candidate is
simply unacceptable, like when the GOP ran McCain for POTUS.

I have seen that theory in practice for well over thirty years. It is bullcrap.

I will ALWAYS vote my conscience now - Your way is causal in our constant and consistent slide into liberalism.

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« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2019, 05:55:16 pm »
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That is entirely the point. When it came time to pull the handle, I found both candidates simply unacceptable.

Perfectly understandable, like I said, as an almost single issue voter (illegal immigration) I found McCain
unacceptable even with Palin as a running mate.

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« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2019, 05:56:51 pm »
Bull, in the 50s, 60s USA was tops in education. Until late 70s our kids still scored at or near the top
of all industrial nations. Now we are dead last in every category. Stupid voters vote for stupid things.
The younger generations thinks socialism is a good thing.

I blame teachers unions for our failing public schools. But mass migration from the 3rd world isn't
helping. Neither is inner city crime/gangs.

@jpsb

Umm...you kinda just proved the point I was making?  We allow the Board of Ed’s and the teachers unions to teach what and how they teach.

Side note: have you looked at where we rank when you remove the inner cities?  Poof!  Just like magic, right back into the top 5.
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Re: Ted Cruz Issues Statement
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2019, 05:57:58 pm »
I have seen that theory in practice for well over thirty years. It is bullcrap.

I will ALWAYS vote my conscience now - Your way is causal in our constant and consistent slide into liberalism.

Fine, enjoy being politically irreverent. Making good the enemy of prefect is not a winning strategy.
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« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2019, 06:02:21 pm »
@jpsb

Umm...you kinda just proved the point I was making?  We allow the Board of Ed’s and the teachers unions to teach what and how they teach.

Side note: have you looked at where we rank when you remove the inner cities?  Poof!  Just like magic, right back into the top 5.

Wow throw out all the bad schools and we're doing OK, Who would have thunk it. Back in the day we
didn't have to "cook the books" to be number 1 education. (not just in top 5).

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« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2019, 06:07:04 pm »
Fine, enjoy being politically irreverent. Make good the enemy of prefect is not a winning strategy.

If I am parsing that right:

What is politically irrelevant would be voting *for* something you don't want... Your will being bent to serve the opposite of what you prefer. That is you being made irrelevant. And that is what I participated in all the way through my life until '07, when I stopped voting for the 'Big Rhinestone R'.

Never ever again.

And as to your other knee-jerk comment:

Perfect is not the enemy of the good - what we are dealing with now is all evil all the time. That is the product o voting for the lesser evil, and choosing to make 'good enough the enemy of the perfect'.

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« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2019, 06:09:15 pm »
Perfectly understandable, like I said, as an almost single issue voter (illegal immigration) I found McCain
unacceptable even with Palin as a running mate.

I can't/won't use hindsight and tell myself I should have voted for Trump. I admit I made a blanket condemnation of him early in Jan. 2017.

Trump has surprised me. Especially in court appointments.

I'll see how the rest of his presidency plays out. If he is running in 2020, and Harris is the Dem pick, it is likely I will vote for him. I find Harris even more toxic (if that is possible) than Hillary.
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« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2019, 06:38:47 pm »
Wow throw out all the bad schools and we're doing OK, Who would have thunk it. Back in the day we
didn't have to "cook the books" to be number 1 education. (not just in top 5).

@jpsb

Or perhaps the statistics show that the culture that doesn’t give a shit about getting educated severely skew  your statistic of how bad our Ed system is?
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Re: Ted Cruz Issues Statement
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2019, 06:50:34 pm »
Bull, in the 50s, 60s USA was tops in education. Until late 70s our kids still scored at or near the top
of all industrial nations. Now we are dead last in every category. Stupid voters vote for stupid things.
The younger generations thinks socialism is a good thing.

I blame teachers unions for our failing public schools. But mass migration from the 3rd world isn't
helping. Neither is inner city crime/gangs.
Teachers and the writers of and those who approve of curricula are a serious part of the equation.
Prior to LBJ's "Great Society", the universally acknowledged route to prosperity among minorities was hard work and education. As the New Left (Marxists) took control of the Democrat Party, a coup largely achieved during the Vietnam War, that emphasis shifted away from education, and the Marxists (Communists) in the education establishment first vilified those who decried their activities, then proceeded to change the focus of what passed for education. The Marxists in the mass media not only reinforced that change, but set about altering the perceptions of Americans about their day to day world. manipulating their emotions and beliefs through the unprecedentedly powerful medium of television, often through the content in entertainment, bolstered by the selective and even biased reporting of events.
With that, people accepted flawed versions of history, political theory,and even science, and here we are.

No public well educated in history would fall for the nonsense of Marxism. Despite the allure of 'free stuff', the rampant failures of the doctrine are written large in those pages. Only the distortion of that history, through absolute falsehood and shifting blame, could convince anyone that Marxism and the associated ideologies which remove any semblance of equality and fairness for all but the lowest common denominator are ideas with any merit.

Otherwise, people would know these things for what they are, and they would reject them outright.
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« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2019, 08:16:20 pm »
Teachers and the writers of and those who approve of curricula are a serious part of the equation.
Prior to LBJ's "Great Society", the universally acknowledged route to prosperity among minorities was hard work and education. As the New Left (Marxists) took control of the Democrat Party, a coup largely achieved during the Vietnam War, that emphasis shifted away from education, and the Marxists (Communists) in the education establishment first vilified those who decried their activities, then proceeded to change the focus of what passed for education. The Marxists in the mass media not only reinforced that change, but set about altering the perceptions of Americans about their day to day world. manipulating their emotions and beliefs through the unprecedentedly powerful medium of television, often through the content in entertainment, bolstered by the selective and even biased reporting of events.
With that, people accepted flawed versions of history, political theory,and even science, and here we are.

No public well educated in history would fall for the nonsense of Marxism. Despite the allure of 'free stuff', the rampant failures of the doctrine are written large in those pages. Only the distortion of that history, through absolute falsehood and shifting blame, could convince anyone that Marxism and the associated ideologies which remove any semblance of equality and fairness for all but the lowest common denominator are ideas with any merit.

Otherwise, people would know these things for what they are, and they would reject them outright.

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You left out the part about making sure that all the teachers in public schools have been properly indoctrinated,  AKA have a teaching certificate..
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« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2019, 08:46:41 pm »
@Sanguine

To paraphrase, this won't fly. Don't people know an existential crisis is occurring?

You lost the wall.  It is long past time to get past that point, and figure out where to go from here.  Some rats will agree border security is important and needed, but because it is Trump no legislation can pass with the word "wall."  Nothing will get passed through Congress except Amnesty.  What are you willing to give up cheerleader #1?

I think the best you can hope for is funding for "barriers" hidden in the 2019 DACA protection bill.

or keep fantasizing about how the American people will rise up and demand action. 
I'm gonna go take a nap during this "existential crisis."

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« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2019, 09:01:43 pm »
I'm gonna go take a nap during this "existential crisis."

Don't forget to put your weapon of choice under your pillow.

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« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2019, 09:08:38 pm »
Don't forget to put your weapon of choice under your pillow.

Why?  Is there a caravan marching to Wisconsin?

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« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2019, 02:03:31 am »
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You left out the part about making sure that all the teachers in public schools have been properly indoctrinated,  AKA have a teaching certificate..
Yep, I did leave that out. And I left out the nature of the courses to get that certificate. 
I had checked into a position teaching junior high Earth Science back in the '80s. I had a Bachelor's degree, a year of work on a Masters', a few years experience in the oil industry, and had taught lab classes as a grad student (and assisted as an undergrad). It was 1986 and I'd been through another layoff in oil and it didn't look good for the near future.
The bugaboo was that I didn't have a teaching certificate. I also didn't have the two years it would take to get the coursework done to get one.

I was reminded of the Education majors where I did my undergrad work, who got a degree in education, but often didn't know any field well enough to teach it.

I also noticed when I was in college that there were mobs of Psychology and Sociology majors running around. Some were holdover 'professional student' types, six years into their draft deferment four year degree (changed majors), some had a heartfelt desire to help people or save the world, and some were following what they saw as the path of least resistance to a BA.

We thought we 'had it good' in Geology because sometimes there were a couple of acceptable theories to answer the same problem/question (nature is complex, even if it does follow the same chemical processes and physical laws, and sometimes there is more than one way to get the same result), but just about any wild-eyed theory seemed to fly in their fields.

We spent our weekends in the field or nights in the lab, and a lot of them partied, even through the week--not that I really cared, because I loved what I was doing and prized the social interaction of my colleagues more than some of the budding lunacy I saw even then, which I foolishly dismissed as a ticket to a menial job somewhere.
 
It later dawned on me that the same scene was being repeated at College and University after College and University, and that there was already a glut of social workers on the market (some of the more earnest ones were talking about advanced degrees in their sophomore year). But the PhD's had the 'secret weapon'--they did studies which found that we needed them to tell us how to live--something we'd done rather well as humans (and a country) for quite some time.

I didn't know it, but these would be the ground troops and officer corps of the war on American culture.

In those days, many of the aberrant behaviours that are all over the news cycle, "entertainment", and demanding 'rights' above and beyond that of normal humans today (and far beyond what in that day would have been considered normal human decency), were not talked about much, except in a clinical or, frankly, derisive sense, tolerated only as a quirk of some talented entertainers or artists, the butt of off- color jokes or material for pulp magazines, but not the subject of polite conversation.
Such things were just not mainstream, and instead the manly (and womanly) virtues of those everyday heroes, those who displayed strength of character, self-sacrifice for greater causes, 'war heroes', firemen, EMS, soldiers, police, athletes, and women such as Clara Barton and others who had shown the devotion to healing and nurturing, or science such as Marie and Pierre Curie, were all held up as models for the youth to emulate--but even then, that was in flux, as the Media were starting to push and had been pushing what, in retrospect, was the classic socialist revolutionary as outlaw heroes, and deviancy as normal.
 
Previously, even those on the other side of the law had at least some aspect that was considered strength, had undertaken risk to themselves, and, when caught suffered the consequences, but the Butch Cassidays, Al Capones, Jesse James, and the like had done their crimes like men, despite their evil.
 
No, we were seeing the era of the pampered getting others to take their risks, unlike the generals we grew up learning of, who at some point in their careers had led from the front, been shot at, or prevailed in some primal conflict, and the media somehow took social tantrums and held them out as virtuous.
What were they revolting against? Sexual morality (always a siren's song for the young and prurient), sobriety (and beyond that, extolling the alleged virtues of 'mind expanding' and addictive drugs), the Government, moral conventions, and traditions, which represented the deeper social structure of our culture (the "Generation Gap", something which has ever existed in transition with one generation growing up with technology their parents did not have, but still bound by deeper cultural commonalities of morals and standards of behaviour, of 'fairness', and of Liberty), religion, and the ideals of hard work and perseverance.

Perhaps not so much against that last, because if anything, the Communists have been unrelenting in their pursuit of their goals. In 1963, those goals seemed far off, and indeed, improbable. Link to the 45 Communist Goals read into the Congressional Record in 1963  Those concepts were rejected out of hand.

Today, after the ongoing study of human behaviour and manipulation of such in the test beds of college campuses and universities, (every student a lab rat), those campuses have become something unrecognizable in the context of American culture from the '60s and '70s, a twisted caricature of American culture, one which would not even have reached the pages of Mad Magazine, but today would not dare be made fun of for the lawsuits and 'outrage' that would be perpetrated, not just by those fringe groups who advocate their particular behaviour, but the media who celebrate those aberrations as normal or virtuous.
 
Now we have social workers telling parents how to raise their children, instead of parents talking with their mom or dad or grandma or grandpa, and following those ties which bound not only family but tradition. Failure to behave as the State demands is a ticket to summary judgement, sans anything close to due process, with a presumption of guilt, often 'proven' by the lies and distortions of fact of those who will strip the children from their homes. Daily, parents are  separated from their children in America, but while dysfunction in those homes is often cited, once targeted (whether dysfunctional or not), the evidence will be found, if not created, to do so.
 
Not all are instances of abuse, or neglect, by any metric, instead, it is a way to cripple those who have the moral basis to object to the actions of the State, justified by using presumed behaviours from statistical pools, and using lies and distortions as 'evidence', and denying the accused the ability to refute those, cross examine, or present evidence or testimony to the contrary. A pointed finger, an 'anonymous tip', brings the proverbial knock on the door. The burden to prove innocence is on the accused, and often the means to do so denied under the guise that the proceedings are not criminal proceedings, despite the severity of the outcome. Those who face this have to attend parenting and other 'classes' to get their children back, classes taught by childless women who are hostile toward males and masculinity. (Can you say 'reeducation camp'? I knew you could)
There has been a concerted war on the family unit, first the extended family, then the family itself through no-fault divorce, and now, the war on masculinity and 'abuse abuse' to justify the mechanisms to destroy reputations, deny rights, and economically destroy the very providers who worked selflessly to do so.

It is necessary to destroy that fundamental governmental unit, to erode or destroy the traditions that bind our culture, and to eliminate the morality which has been the basis of Western Civilization for its entire period of development, in order to form the vacuum that the Marxists believe their doctrine will fill, if they just 'get it right this time'.
(Foolishly, they have enlisted the aid of Islam, and I think they are in for a surprise. Their 'allies' will gladly become their masters.)
It is a war on the moral fibers that bound Americans to each other, in concert with social movements to further those divides by destroying the traditions and the relationships which kept them alive, with the State seeking to supplant those family ties with loyalty to the State, to take over the children. Only the theoreticians and the like who are using our society for lab rats have only one such practical model, that of the Soviet, Chinese, and other Communist societies, where you literally comply or are severely punished (or eliminated), a relationship revealed as more abusive than even the worst parents in a free society.

But that could not be accomplished without destroying the family, something which could not be accomplished without attacking religion, without fostering the drug addled environments which lead to bad parenting or unmanageable children, without redefining what is good and what is evil, without indoctrinating the children with teachers who have 'secret seminars' with their students, and without taking away the tools by which a parent might enforce standards of behaviour in their very home.
School security isn't so much to stop crazed gunmen, it is an excuse to keep the parents out, to keep them from seeing and hearing (and disputing) what their children are being programmed with.

They, (the Communists/Socialists/Progressives/Marxists--they keep changing the name but the stink is the same) have been wildly successful, waving advanced degrees and 'experts' like Dr. Spock, and wrecking not only the lives of millions, but the cultural fabric that binds America together.

And those goals read into the Congressional Record back in '63?  Well, that shopping list is pretty much filled.
Communism never made such strides as when it was declared 'dead'--even after those nations which embraced it have failed--and the social and political 'elites' (an alien concept for America, really, where we have no royalty, and in theory anyone can be elected to office) only fight those who would fight the transformation, because they think they are going to be the ones who are 'on top', who benefit wildly from the subjugation of the masses.

The ordinary American has no one to represent them in D.C., and the folks entrenched there will do all in their power to make sure we don't. They all see themselves as the ones who live well at the expense of all else.

The only hope this country has comes from those of us who remember the relative freedom of the 1950s and 1960s subverting the Communists, and teaching our grandchildren what once was, and what they should strive to be, how to subvert the 'revolution'. We can try, because it is the right thing to do, but it may be too late.
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Re: Ted Cruz Issues Statement
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2019, 03:50:05 am »
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With your permission, I would like to post this on another site.  I would portray it as an e-mail response to a question I asked "the other day" while talking with a group of friends.
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« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2019, 04:08:27 am »
@Smokin Joe

With your permission, I would like to post this on another site.  I would portray it as an e-mail response to a question I asked "the other day" while talking with a group of friends.
Be my guest. I think the ideas are more important than attribution.
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Re: Ted Cruz Issues Statement
« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2019, 04:22:48 am »
I believe Trump and crew are doing so much damage the left is going to get voted in easily for many years to come. Bush brought us Obama and Trump is going to bring in something even worse.

Trump not being able to implement what he promised is without a doubt going to sink him. He was in over his head in the beginning and he even stated so.  Running a government is far different than running a corporation, there is this thing called "congress" that got in his way.  IF ALL of the GOP would have stood behind him, we would be looking at a much brighter picture.  Too many RINO's were out to sink his ship and made that very clear before he was even nominated. 

I do find fault with him for waiting till the last minute to act on this issue.  I really question why he waited.  Perhaps we'll never know the answer.

AS for the DEMS being voted in easily.  No doubt about it.  The GOP will lose in 2020.  The party is dead. The last 2 years of Bammy's reign of terror the GOP had both Houses, yet, he and the DEMS made them very incompetent. The GOP had the oval office and both Houses of Congress and still couldn't get anything done.  So, I'm done. Done voting for any individual political candidate and I stopped supporting the GOP in general and the RNC long ago.

I don't have a crystal ball, but I feel that ALL we have left now is our 2nd Amendment rights.  That's it. No wall and millions have invaded this country for decades and they're still pouring in. The DEMS will soon be in full control and without the 2nd Amendment we will have nothing.

I will continue to support the NRA, Gun Owners of America, National Association for Gun Rights, etc.
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« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2019, 04:55:13 am »
I believe Trump and crew are doing so much damage the left is going to get voted in easily for many years to come. Bush brought us Obama and Trump is going to bring in something even worse.

I know I'll catch hell for this but I'm going to say it anyway.

I have yet to vote for Trump and fought like hell to prevent his nomination but his performance to date has made me regret both. He has surprised me on just about every front possible and I doubt a person alive could have done any better than he has given the forces arrayed against him.  Flame suit on!

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Re: Ted Cruz Issues Statement
« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2019, 05:03:06 am »
I know I'll catch hell for this but I'm going to say it anyway.

I have yet to vote for Trump and fought like hell to prevent his nomination but his performance to date has made me regret both. He has surprised me on just about every front possible and I doubt a person alive could have done any better than he has given the forces arrayed against him.  Flame suit on!

@DB

We disagree, but I'm not going to flame you for it.

We needed someone who can organize and motivate people to get something accomplished. Trump isn't that person. He's a lone operator. Everything centers on him.

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« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2019, 05:30:12 am »
Teachers and the writers of and those who approve of curricula are a serious part of the equation.
Prior to LBJ's "Great Society", the universally acknowledged route to prosperity among minorities was hard work and education. As the New Left (Marxists) took control of the Democrat Party, a coup largely achieved during the Vietnam War, that emphasis shifted away from education, and the Marxists (Communists) in the education establishment first vilified those who decried their activities, then proceeded to change the focus of what passed for education. The Marxists in the mass media not only reinforced that change, but set about altering the perceptions of Americans about their day to day world. manipulating their emotions and beliefs through the unprecedentedly powerful medium of television, often through the content in entertainment, bolstered by the selective and even biased reporting of events.
With that, people accepted flawed versions of history, political theory,and even science, and here we are.

No public well educated in history would fall for the nonsense of Marxism. Despite the allure of 'free stuff', the rampant failures of the doctrine are written large in those pages. Only the distortion of that history, through absolute falsehood and shifting blame, could convince anyone that Marxism and the associated ideologies which remove any semblance of equality and fairness for all but the lowest common denominator are ideas with any merit.

Otherwise, people would know these things for what they are, and they would reject them outright.

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« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2019, 05:40:44 am »
I know I'll catch hell for this but I'm going to say it anyway.

I have yet to vote for Trump and fought like hell to prevent his nomination but his performance to date has made me regret both. He has surprised me on just about every front possible and I doubt a person alive could have done any better than he has given the forces arrayed against him.  Flame suit on!

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Thanks you Sir for having the courage to say that and a BIG

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« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2019, 05:43:55 am »
We disagree, but I'm not going to flame you for it.

We needed someone who can organize and motivate people to get something accomplished. Trump isn't that person. He's a lone operator. Everything centers on him.

Trump is the first president since Reagan fighting for us everyday Americans. G*d bless President Trump.

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Re: Ted Cruz Issues Statement
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2019, 06:12:53 am »
I know I'll catch hell for this but I'm going to say it anyway.

I have yet to vote for Trump and fought like hell to prevent his nomination but his performance to date has made me regret both. He has surprised me on just about every front possible and I doubt a person alive could have done any better than he has given the forces arrayed against him.  Flame suit on!

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No flame, not from me.  He has done things (or his appointees/minions have) I disagree vehemently with, but considering the amount of slow walking and outright resistance to getting the signature promises fulfilled--some from the GOP--the rest, media and the usual suspects, he has done surprisingly well. He has made decisions which have benefited my home state (half the state revenue comes from oil taxes, and nearly half that oil is moved on the DAPL), and my industry, and even though that is not THE metric by which I will judge his administration, it is something which has had economic benefits I cannot ignore.

I remain disappointed in the GOP Congress, the 'good ol' boys' who have managed to thwart much of the policy the POTUS had proposed. Many of them were supported by the TEA party folks to do some of those same things.
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Re: Ted Cruz Issues Statement
« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2019, 06:29:52 pm »
Trump is the first president since Reagan fighting for us everyday Americans. G*d bless President Trump.

Yes.  God Bless President Trump and America.  Both are in deep trouble.
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