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Yep, that's exactly why George Bush...Senior and Junior...got that wall built and fixed our immigration system....all of that "reasoning and thoughtful conversation" they used brought in enough RINO's and Dems to get it done. Oh...wait...that's exactly the opposite of what happened...could it be that no amount of huggy-feely conversation was or would ever sway the RINO's to support a wall. If we don't get a wall...and I still think we will under Trump...all of you NT/RINO's should be proud. Take your victory lap. You won. You undermined, backstabbed and/or simply did nothing when the fight for the wall was/is hot...way to go!
If we don't get a wall...and I still think we will under Trump...all of you NT/RINO's should be proud. Take your victory lap. You won. You undermined, backstabbed and/or simply did nothing when the fight for the wall was/is hot...way to go!
Sorry, Mesaclone, but this is all on Trump. This was his big campaign issue and the one that people voted for him on. (Well, that and he wasn't quite Hillary)Whether a few hard-core NTs here posted less-than-flattering opinions about Trump has had absolutely no effect on his ability to get things done in Washington.After two damned years in DC he still doesn't understand how the place works and how to get what he wants? And, invoking GWB isn't going to work either. W was never big on border control and never really tried. Same with GWHB.
Trump needs to stop being the "Whiner In Chief" and start getting things done. He has the power to make it happen......Use It!
CNN supports racism and violence daily on their channel and their pieces are allowed to be posted. Looks like you agree with me that CNN should be banned on the site.
You're the one rewriting history. It only took a few in strategically positions to bring a halt to everything. And, apparently, you're hell bent on editing out Paul Ryan, John McCain, Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski, Rob Porter et al. They were not going to be "won over" because they were consumed with hate that Donald Trump won. They would have been more amenable to Hillary Clinton.I won't let you rewrite this. For the last two years the GOP Congressional caucuses have been under diehard Never-Trump control They brought us --- willfully ---- to this point
So, postponing the SOTU wasn't a concession, ending the shutdown wasn't a concession. I'm afraid of what else isn't going to be a concession, or maybe I should be afraid of what will be one.
Perhaps if he had actually tried to convince them with reason and thoughtful conversation, he would have convinced at least a few.It's called "leadership." And it's what real Presidents do.
I know a thing or two about concessions. I own the coffee and donut concession in The Lounge.
Yes, he does!
Yep, that's exactly why George Bush...Senior and Junior...got that wall built and fixed our immigration system....all of that "reasoning and thoughtful conversation" they used brought in enough RINO's and Dems to get it done. Oh...wait...that's exactly the opposite of what happened...could it be that no amount of huggy-feely conversation was or would ever sway the RINO's to support a wall. Especially when they know they can take refuge in the arms of NT's who are so willing to be Quisling's and undermine the conservative cause. Trump being an MF'r is the ONLY way we get this done...the Dems will never go along with a wall, and with you RINO/NT's undercutting the work to get it done...well...here we are. Luckily, the President will fight on...and ultimately succeed...while all you delicate NT flowers poo-poo from the sidelines and facilitate the Left in its opposition. That's bad enough...but blaming Trump for your effective work to stop him as NT/RINO's...well that's just rich. If we don't get a wall...and I still think we will under Trump...all of you NT/RINO's should be proud. Take your victory lap. You won. You undermined, backstabbed and/or simply did nothing when the fight for the wall was/is hot...way to go!
Thank you for proving my point, since I know that the plain ones didn't start out that way.
As if you can convince open border globalists like Ryan to help build a wall.
Hey! I haven't done that since I started my diet. I already lost >55 lbs.@Victoria33 @musiclady
I'm definitely not going to defend the Republicans in Congress (at least most of them), but the test of leadership when you are in the WH is to convince your own party to follow its own purported policy.If you can't do that, you fail the leadership test.It's a time honored policy that the person in charge bears the responsibility for what goes on under him. Bush 43 was to blame for the profligate spending of Congress, as is Trump, as well as his incoherent positions about the wall and our national security.He wanted the job. It's his.
Do you really think that the GOP could be convinced to give up their feeding at the trough of lobbyists and vote for the security of the American people? I don't.