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Offline libertybele

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This absolutely nails it!

Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse

.........If we consent to the notion that the president is prohibited from following the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and his inherent executive authority to stop this invasion, then there’s nothing we can do, and we as may as well cede the presidency to Kamala Harris. But if the president is willing to use his lawful powers and more aggressively push back against lawless lower court opinions and their illegal universal injunctions, there is a lot he can do. By credibly threatening to use executive action based on lawful powers, the president can upend Pelosi’s leverage.

The first step is for the president to communicate his message directly to the American people. There is no way around that. This entire battle is one of messaging............

...........to that end, the president should reconsider his decision to scuttle the State of the Union and deliver it at a venue on the border flanked by law enforcement and Angel Families. He should use imagery to depict the severity of the problem caused by Pelosi’s preferred immigration policies and that this has gone on long enough. This speech, because of its unique circumstances, would get more viewers and look better for the president than anything he could have done in the House chamber. In some ways, it would be the most dramatic use of the bully pulpit ever..........

...............Threaten executive action

As long as Trump makes it clear that he cannot do anything to stop the invasion without Pelosi caving, she will not cave. But the minute he makes it clear that he will act unilaterally anyway, it will change the dynamic..........

............End DACA

How can a district judge tell the president he must continue Obama’s illegal amnesty? Trump needs to tell the American people that statute tells him these people must be deported, while a district judge, forum-shopped by the Left, says otherwise. He must follow statute. Nobody can challenge his use of executive action when that action itself is a mere reversal of Obama’s unprecedented action. He should explain the illegality of these rulings based on statute, rules of standing, and the fiction of universal injunctions.

Remember, the Judge William Alsup said very clearly that he was not saying DACA “could not be rescinded as an exercise of Executive Branch discretion,” he just disagreed with the way in which Trump got rid of it. While the judge was still off his rocker, nothing is stopping Trump from ending DACA now.................

................................Shut down all border migration

Nobody can ever credibly argue that a president lacks inherent executive authority as well as delegated authority to shut down all migration at our border, no matter how a judge wants to erroneously create loopholes in asylum.................

.......................Threaten a military buildup

You know what we need more than a partial border wall, at least in the short term? A serious military operation at our border. If we can’t understand the threat the cartels pose to our nation and the cost in terms of thousands of homicides, drugs, gangs, and financial burdens, we have no business being a sovereign nation. If a president can deploy troops in 140 countries without authorization from Congress, then you better believe a president can repel an invasion when cartels are on our soil directing their operations. Even Joe Biden called for such a military operation decades ago when the cartels weren’t nearly as powerful...............

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/trump-should-revisit-3-executive-powers-to-break-the-border-impasse/

Romans 12:16-21

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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 02:46:45 am »
All of the above... sounds good to me!

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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2019, 02:13:02 pm »
All of the above... sounds good to me!

Indeed.  Why is he waiting?
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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2019, 02:32:06 pm »
End DACA

How can a district judge tell the president he must continue Obama’s illegal amnesty? Trump needs to tell the American people that statute tells him these people must be deported, while a district judge, forum-shopped by the Left, says otherwise.



The problem with this is he’s already ended the program and gave it a lead time to work on a legislative fix. Later, after the time expired, he declined to include DACA in negotiations, citing the legal challenge process. So, he’s basically given credence to the judicial intervention. Additionally, he’s given statements he’s not willing to deport them en masse.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2019, 03:52:55 pm »
BKMK
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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2019, 03:55:41 pm »
Do it! Get’er done!
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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2019, 03:57:36 pm »
Liberal judges will stop almost all of it.
As a matter of fact, judges will probably stop the Wall from being built if Trump gets the money. That $5B will go to lawyers.
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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2019, 04:06:17 pm »
Liberal judges will stop almost all of it.
As a matter of fact, judges will probably stop the Wall from being built if Trump gets the money. That $5B will go to lawyers.
Let them issue their bs rulings. Since a national emergency was presumably issued, appeal every single one of them directly to SCOTUS. Inundate them. They will either take the cases, or show they also don’t care about our country.
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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2019, 04:21:41 pm »
Let them issue their bs rulings. Since a national emergency was presumably issued, appeal every single one of them directly to SCOTUS. Inundate them. They will either take the cases, or show they also don’t care about our country.

It's the funding that will still be in question; does he have the Constitutional authority to re appropriate funds? He has the full authority to declare a national emergency.  EVEN if the lower courts rule against him ... he still has the authority to proceed.  No different than past presidents proceeding and ignoring the lower courts.  Perhaps lawyers can try to tie up construction by ordering injunctions, but hopefully he and his team of lawyers have already worked out the possible kinks and are fully prepared.  I hope this is one of the reasons why he's waiting.  IMHO, he should have kept silent on this and caught the DEMS off guard. 

My biggest hope is that he is getting better advice from others on this issue besides from Giulliani or Kushner.  They are a disaster just waiting to happen.  Both of them have conflicts of interest on this issue.
Romans 12:16-21

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Re: Trump should revisit 3 executive powers to break the border impasse
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2019, 04:25:21 pm »
It's the funding that will still be in question; does he have the Constitutional authority to re appropriate funds? He has the full authority to declare a national emergency.  EVEN if the lower courts rule against him ... he still has the authority to proceed.  No different than past presidents proceeding and ignoring the lower courts.  Perhaps lawyers can try to tie up construction by ordering injunctions, but hopefully he and his team of lawyers have already worked out the possible kinks and are fully prepared.  I hope this is one of the reasons why he's waiting.  IMHO, he should have kept silent on this and caught the DEMS off guard. 

My biggest hope is that he is getting better advice from others on this issue besides from Giulliani or Kushner.  They are a disaster just waiting to happen.  Both of them have conflicts of interest on this issue.
From what I’ve read (don’t have links from my phone), but the emergency declaration allows him to use funds from other sources already appropriated, otherwise reallocate.
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid."  -- John Wayne
"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.� ? Euripides, The Bacchae
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.� ? Laurence J. Peter, The Peter Principle
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.� ? Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy