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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2019, 05:50:23 pm »

Elections are a matter of national security.

Get back to me with photos of Halderman, Erlichman, Mitchell, Dean and others in handcuffs, officers in riot gear.
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2019, 05:50:36 pm »
Especially during a shutdown. Who's paying these guys? Soros?


They took out loans, from the credit union, just like Wilbur Ross told them.
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2019, 05:51:30 pm »

They took out loans, from the credit union, just like Wilbur Ross told them.

Ok, now that's funny.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2019, 05:51:34 pm »

Roger Stone, walking out of the court house in Fort Lauderdale

Stone has been waiting 45 years to do Nixon on the big stage.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2019, 05:52:31 pm »
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2019, 05:52:46 pm »
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Oliver Darcy and CNN must think we are all credulous morons. 95% chance the FBI tipped off CNN!
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2019, 05:53:55 pm »
Stone still speaking..he is a camera hog
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2019, 05:57:55 pm »
Stone has been waiting 45 years to do Nixon on the big stage.

Lol!   Can't get much bigger (stage) than what he has now.
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2019, 06:02:26 pm »
And don't expect there to be a trial.  Methinks Stone is going to suffer a "fatal heart attack" in prison.

Other than that little stint today, Stone won't go to prison. He would throw his own slave gimp under the bus to save his skin; he has never been one to remain loyal, he just uses who he needs to for his advantage at the time. He threw his partner Lee Atwater under the bus with the whole Ferdinand Marcos fiasco he set up went tits up.  Then there was the whole Joe Bruno/Elliot Spitzer game where he almost undermined the entire case against Spitzer by threatening his father.  Nixon was about the only guy Stone was ever loyal to.

Stone will say or do whatever he thinks he needs to in order to protect himself and he has no line he won't cross.  If you want to talk about the swamp, then Stone is the worm feeding off the muck in it.
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2019, 06:05:49 pm »
Other than that little stint today, Stone won't go to prison. He would throw his own slave gimp under the bus to save his skin; he has never been one to remain loyal, he just uses who he needs to for his advantage at the time. He threw his partner Lee Atwater under the bus with the whole Ferdinand Marcos fiasco he set up went tits up.  Then there was th whole Joe Bruno/Elliot Spitzer game where he almost undermined the entire case against Spitzer by threatening his father.  Nixon was about the only guy Stone was ever loyal to.

Stine will say or do whatever he thinks he needs to u order to protect himself and he has no line he won't cross.  If you want to talk about the swamp, then Stone is the worm feeding off the muck in it.

He does look like a slimy one, that's for sure,  we shall see.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2019, 06:08:01 pm »
To provide a photo-op/headline sensation (yet another "bombshell") for the Trump-hating leftist media?  (just a wild guess)

Yep!

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2019, 06:08:14 pm »
Other than that little stint today, Stone won't go to prison. He would throw his own slave gimp under the bus to save his skin he has never been one to remain loyal, he just uses who he needs to for his advantage at the time. He threw his partner Lee Atwater under the bus with the whole Ferdinand Marcos fiasco he set up went tits up.  Then there was th whole Joe Bruno/Elliot Spitzer game where he almost undermined the entire case against Spitzer by threatening his father.  Nixon was about the only guy Stone was ever loyal to.

Stine will say or do whatever he thinks he needs to u order to protect himself and he has no line he won't cross.  If you want to talk about the swamp, then Stone is the worm feeding off the muck in it.

Yeah... well... while you're busy displaying your disdain for Stone.... consider this.   If the Deep State fascists can send their jack-booted thugs, in the dark of night, with heavy artillery, after Stone.... on a "process crime charge"... in reality, merely for his association with the Trump campaign....

they can send the same after you or me, any damned time they please.. and for any transgression that you or I may, in future, make.   Like....
wearing a MAGA hat.

That is the main issue at hand that should be focused on here, IMO.  JS....
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2019, 06:09:33 pm »
Who exactly do you suppose would do the investigating!

We need a REAL million man march on Washington!

We do, @Bigun.   We really, really do.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2019, 06:13:05 pm »
We do, @Bigun.   We really, really do.

Need a method to quietly organize or it will be stopped before it gets started.
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2019, 06:17:17 pm »
Yeah... well... while you're busy displaying your disdain for Stone.... consider this.   If the Deep State fascists can send their jack-booted thugs, in the dark of night, with heavy artillery, after Stone.... on a "process crime charge"... in reality, merely for his association with the Trump campaign....

they can send the same after you or me, any damned time they please.. and for any transgression that you or I may, in future, make.   Like....
wearing a MAGA hat.

That is the main issue at hand that should be focused on here, IMO.  JS....

I didn't say that his this was handled was right, just that one needs to watch their back for knives with Stone. Stone is one of those swamp dwellers politicians should not get in bed with. There isn't just one swamp out there. Everyone thinks of the Deep State swamp in DC made up of career bureaucrats, but Stone comes from the NYC political money swamp that is just as bad and often worse in magnitude (the same swamp Soros is in, just on the right beach instead of the left, but it is all the same muck).

...and don't discount the power of process charges- it is what got Bill Clinton.
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #90 on: January 25, 2019, 06:20:03 pm »
I didn't say that his this was handled was right, just that one needs to watch their back for knives with Stone. Stone is one of those swamp dwellers politicians should not get in bed with. There isn't just one swamp out there. Everyone thinks of the Deep State swamp in DC made up of career bureaucrats, but Stone comes from the NYC political money swamp that is just as bad and often worse in magnitude (the same swamp Soros is in, just on the right beach instead of the left, but it is all the same muck).

...and don't discount the power of process charges- it is what got Bill Clinton.

Ok.  Point taken.
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #91 on: January 25, 2019, 06:23:35 pm »

...and don't discount the power of process charges- it is what got Bill Clinton.

Last time I checked, Bill Clinton served out his entire two terms.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #92 on: January 25, 2019, 06:24:59 pm »
Last time I checked, Bill Clinton served out his entire two terms.

He was still impeached.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #93 on: January 25, 2019, 06:26:32 pm »
He was still impeached.

So?   Outside of folks who spend most of their time on Political Forums, nobody cares about that.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2019, 06:28:06 pm »
He was still impeached.

Yeah, but that was for lying under oath, I believe.

Edit:  I guess I should clarify.  My definition of a "process crime" is one that had no real connection to the original reason for investigation or testimony.  Am I wrong?   In Clinton's case.... his testimony, under oath, had everything to do with the investigation.   In Stone's case, the process crime was created AFTER the investigation began.  Hope that clarifies what I'm getting at. 

If anybody can give a better definition, please do so.
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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2019, 06:33:02 pm »
Yeah, but that was for lying under oath, I believe.

And suborning perjury in a sexual harassment case.

And the media was far harder on the special prosecutor than the president.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2019, 06:33:59 pm »
Yeah, but that was for lying under oath, I believe.

Edit:  I guess I should clarify.  My definition of a "process crime" is one that had no real connection to the original reason for investigation or testimony.  Am I wrong?   In Clinton's case.... his testimony, under oath, had everything to do with the investigation.   In Stone's case, the process crime was created AFTER the investigation began.  Hope that clarifies what I'm getting at.

The original investigation was about improper financial structuring of Whitewater land deals.   None of that made it to the impeachment charges or the questioning that led to it.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #97 on: January 25, 2019, 06:34:38 pm »
And suborning perjury in a sexual harassment case.

And the media was far harder on the special prosecutor than the president.

Oh yeah.   Anybody 'else' (but a Clinton/Democrat)... would have been frog-marched to jail.
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« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2019, 06:35:53 pm »
Oh yeah.   Anybody 'else' (but a Clinton/Democrat)... would have been frog-marched to jail.

That's kind of my point. Don't think these little process crimes will amount to nothing.

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Re: Breaking: Trump ally Stone faces seven charges
« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2019, 06:36:47 pm »
The original investigation was about improper financial structuring of Whitewater land deals.   None of that made it to the impeachment charges or the questioning that led to it.

Because... it literally became the proverbial 'can of worms'.... that, the more you looked into it, the worse it got.  Unlike the Mueller witch-hunt... where the only thing Mueller has been able to dredge up is Scooter Libby-like process crimes.   **nononono*
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