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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2019, 05:09:11 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on January 26, 2019, 05:02:34 pm
The Senate Chamber is unavailable when the Speaker of the House declares the entire Capitol off limits to the POTUS.  She actually has that authority.

Don't know about her having authority over the Senate Chamber, but the Senate option was closed anyway when it came out the Senate had to pass a Resolution to Invite, that was subject to the Filibuster, and the Rats would not vote either Cloture Motion to permit it. 

I could be wrong.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2019, 06:18:16 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 26, 2019, 05:09:11 pm
Don't know about her having authority over the Senate Chamber, but the Senate option was closed anyway when it came out the Senate had to pass a Resolution to Invite, that was subject to the Filibuster, and the Rats would not vote either Cloture Motion to permit it. 

I could be wrong.
The Speaker is designated to have responsibility for the 
security of the entire Capitol.  A Senate invitation would have stirred the waters, but otherwise irrelevant.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2019, 07:15:57 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on January 26, 2019, 06:18:16 pm
The Speaker is designated to have responsibility for the 
security of the entire Capitol.  A Senate invitation would have stirred the waters, but otherwise irrelevant.

Besides, the President didn't want to do a Senate-only speech.  I see his point.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2019, 07:19:02 pm »
He still ain't getting the SOTU.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2019, 07:22:11 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on January 26, 2019, 07:19:02 pm
He still ain't getting the SOTU.

Pelosi said she ain't running no section 8 Hud program.  No SOTU for You.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2019, 07:53:52 pm »
Quote from: DB on January 26, 2019, 06:02:25 am
The "epiphany" they imagine is to assuage their 9conscience for voting for what they voted for. Never mind the obvious.
I never voted for Trump.  (I didn't believe he had a change of heart.)  I now do believe it--at least with respect to his basic ideology.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2019, 08:00:09 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on January 26, 2019, 07:53:52 pm
I never voted for Trump.  (I didn't believe he had a change of heart.)  I now do believe it--at least with respect to his basic ideology.

See, this is why I always read your posts.  I watched your big ol' ship turn, as did mine.  I learned a lot along the way, which is why I won't get into a spitting match with you.... :tongue2:
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2019, 09:03:23 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 26, 2019, 08:00:09 pm
See, this is why I always read your posts.  I watched your big ol' ship turn, as did mine.  I learned a lot along the way, which is why I won't get into a spitting match with you.... :tongue2:
You're as kooky as I am
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2019, 09:19:26 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on January 26, 2019, 07:19:02 pm
He still ain't getting the SOTU.

I'll bet he will, though.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2019, 09:21:47 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on January 26, 2019, 09:19:26 pm

I'll bet he will, though.

I think he will, too, just not the 29th as originally planned.  It will be interesting if Pelosi tries that routine again in a few weeks.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2019, 10:27:07 pm »
Quote from: EasyAce on January 26, 2019, 06:01:36 am
The key is that the written messages were sent to Congress. It would still be quite constitutional to revert to that practise. God only knows I wish it would, once and for all. But delivering it as a spoken address from any venue other than Congress itself could be very unconstitutional.

How about if the official version of the SOTU were delivered in writing to Congress and Trump informally delivered the same address to the nation from the Oval Office?

FWIW, Nixon's 1973 address and Carter's 1981 address were in writing.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2019, 10:28:14 pm »
Quote from: Machiavelli on January 26, 2019, 10:27:07 pm
How about if the official version of the SOTU were delivered in writing to Congress and Trump informally delivered the same address to the nation from the Oval Office?

FWIW, Nixon's 1973 address and Carter's 1981 address were in writing.

That makes way too much sense.   
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2019, 10:31:51 pm »
Quote from: Machiavelli on January 26, 2019, 10:27:07 pm
How about if the official version of the SOTU were delivered in writing to Congress and Trump informally delivered the same address to the nation from the Oval Office?

FWIW, Nixon's 1973 address and Carter's 1981 address were in writing.

If I were Jimmy Carter I'd have crawled under a rock in January 1981 too.  Don't know why Nixon would have done that having won a 49-State election.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2019, 10:32:34 pm »
Quote from: Machiavelli on January 26, 2019, 10:27:07 pm
How about if the official version of the SOTU were delivered in writing to Congress and Trump informally delivered the same address to the nation from the Oval Office?

FWIW, Nixon's 1973 address and Carter's 1981 address were in writing.

Yes. And the point is he could have done that bypassing Pelosi and the house. How many cameras were present seemed to be more important though.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2019, 10:38:38 pm »
Quote from: DB on January 26, 2019, 10:32:34 pm
Yes. And the point is he could have done that bypassing Pelosi and the house. How many cameras were present seemed to be more important though.

Yeah, that really sticks in my craw.  It looks like he could tolerate a whole bunch of lower-level Gummint employees not getting paychecks and beer labels not being designed, but he promptly caved when his big, beautiful speech got canceled.

I'm sure there's more to it than that, but that's the optics.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2019, 08:56:05 pm »
Quote from: DB on January 26, 2019, 10:32:34 pm
Yes. And the point is he could have done that bypassing Pelosi and the house. How many cameras were present seemed to be more important though.
The media has reportedly already told him that they won't televise a primetime SOTU speech from the Oval Office, but only from the House Chamber. 

Notice from this that they are trying to block Trump's broad access to the American people.  THAT underscores how important the speech is.

Trump is facing much more fervent opposition than even Reagan did.  Trump has to win the communications war.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2019, 09:11:56 pm »
As a LEGAL IMMIGRANT..who loves America & supports a great president..It really makes me sad, how so many UNDERMINE OUR COUNTRY and are not supportive of president TRUMP.  People have lost their way, &  think It is about 'THEIR FEELINGS"...not what is good for the country.  We will not have a country, if N.T.'s can't see that.  They would rather we be like VENEZUELA, instead of supporting the man who wants to secure our country. This is NOT a football game!  N.T.'s don't see the communist/socialist who want to destroy our country? Pelosi, was an actual card carrying communist one time. Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders.  You think, we can just poo poo these nutty people, that THEY aren't making headway into America?   Venezuela, once was great, now they are eating dogs & Zoo animals, & last I heard cannabalism to survive, but people still think NOT SUPPORTING our president, is th thing to do. People boiled shoe leather, to try & get some broth, food to eat In Ukraine. I lived socialism and we were starving.
This will get mocked & fall on deaf ears. It is heartbreaking how people are clueless about, what they are doing to America, fo their "personal ethics, pride, principle ". Try EATING...THOSE.
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2019, 09:17:10 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on January 27, 2019, 08:56:05 pm
The media has reportedly already told him that they won't televise a primetime SOTU speech from the Oval Office, but only from the House Chamber. 

Notice from this that they are trying to block Trump's broad access to the American people.  THAT underscores how important the speech is.

Trump is facing much more fervent opposition than even Reagan did.  Trump has to win the communications war.


Doc, you know, most people already,,KNOW...."the state of the union".   N.T.'s are thrilled as if, this is a football game & not the life or death of our country!  For them too.  I don't care about the SOTU.......president TRUMP has told us many times, how things are going. I Love America and support a great man & president. Compassionate & caring Human being. People have been brainwashed for years about him. They eat up the lies, & are no better than the next human being.  Virtue signaling is PHONY tool. So many scripture touting people, yet ,"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"....forgotten.  www.magapill.com


Sorry...
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Re: Either bored or because he was bluffing, Trump blinks on State of the Union
« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2019, 09:25:22 pm »
   You may have a point there @LegalAmerican

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