At least five dead in Florida bank shooting standoff

[goatprairie]

Yeah, but when they don't.... why should taxpayers have to foot the bill of giving them a 'freebie' trial so they can sit in a prison cell for the rest of their lives, at taxpayers' expense.  And this perp has a LOT of years left to spend on that taxpayer dime....

unless somebody in prison offs him.   

I'm thinking of how I'd feel if he had just killed someone in my family.

Maybe you've seen the video of the sex offender who was walking down the hallway being led into a courtroom somewhere in America.
As he was being led down the hallway, he passed a man who was supposedly talking on a telephone located in the hallway. You can see the whole thing on the video.
As the sex offender walks by, the man on the phone puts it  down, turns around, pulls out a gun and shoots the pos dead.
It turned out the scum had sexually assaulted the guy with the telephone's daughter.
I believe the father received no punishment for his extra-judicial act.

[SZonian]

No motive according to DM. Just another sick wacko. I wonder if he was on meds. Many/most shooters are.
And yes. He did announce what he was going to do more than once.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6627913/Florida-man-accused-killing-five-people-bank-fascination-death-ex-claims.html

Being reported that all 5 killed were women...

[XenaLee]

Maybe you've seen the video of the sex offender who was walking down the hallway being led into a courtroom somewhere in America.
As he was being led down the hallway, he passed a man who was supposedly talking on a telephone located in the hallway. You can see the whole thing on the video.
As the sex offender walks by, the man on the phone puts it  down, turns around, pulls out a gun and shoots the pos dead.
It turned out the scum had sexually assaulted the guy with the telephone's daughter.
I believe the father received no punishment for his extra-judicial act.

Well, when government fails to deliver justice.... it is (and will be again some day) up to citizens to deliver said justice.   An expected result from too many liberal judges inexplicably giving perps a slap on the wrist for heinous crimes...(too many instances of the truly guilty getting away with it).

That kind of justice depends upon which state you're in, of course. 

[240B]

Being reported that all 5 killed were women...

A report I read said that he simply killed everybody in the bank. They just happened to be all women.
If this is true, it makes it even more baffling why swat didn't take him out?

[XenaLee]

A report I read said that he simply killed everybody in the bank. They just happened to be all women.
If this is true, it makes it even more baffling why swat didn't take him out?

Another case of law enforcement being ordered to "stand down"?

[bigheadfred]

A report I read said that he simply killed everybody in the bank. They just happened to be all women.
If this is true, it makes it even more baffling why swat didn't take him out?

Maybe because SWAT has a bit more on the professional (legal) side and not so much on the vigilante side?

[Sanguine]

Maybe because SWAT has a bit more on the professional (legal) side and not so much on the vigilante side?

That would be my guess.

[SZonian]

A report I read said that he simply killed everybody in the bank. They just happened to be all women.
If this is true, it makes it even more baffling why swat didn't take him out?

His ex-girlfriend is saying she'd be warning authorities for a while now...it appears that again, LE has failed their due diligence, "see something, say something".

[bigheadfred]

That would be my guess.

Small town. My guess would be the SWAT team was called in and not local. If a local cop(s) went in and saw their neighbor, or relative, lying there dead, the end result may have been very different.

[XenaLee]

His ex-girlfriend is saying she'd be warning authorities for a while now...it appears that again, LE has failed their due diligence, "see something, say something".

Another case of deliberate negligence and refusal to protect citizens.   How many does that make now...?

[Cyber Liberty]

Another case of deliberate negligence and refusal to protect citizens.   How many does that make now...?

Meanwhile, the state of Floriduh does everything possible to ensure nobody can defend themselves by throwing the full force of the State into locking up George Zimmerman for shooting a Yout that was bashing his brains out on a sidewalk and grabbing for Zimmerman's gun.

[XenaLee]

Meanwhile, the state of Floriduh does everything possible to ensure nobody can defend themselves by throwing the full force of the State into locking up George Zimmerman for shooting a Yout that was bashing his brains out on a sidewalk and grabbing for Zimmerman's gun.

Oh yeah.   And Martin was yet another Yout that had been protected by the Obama/Holder "rule" of not arresting perps of color.... as was the school shooter Cruz.   The blood on their hands will, I hope, haunt them to their graves and beyond (same with Hillary).

[RoosGirl]

If you noticed that maybe this video will interest you.


Sorry...

I tried it.  I really did.  But I can't handle that stuff.  Some things I think they were being overly alarmist about, but most of what they talk about I have no interest and/or participation in.  I'm comfortable and confident in my beliefs and I have no interest in people warning me about what bleep nuts like celebrities do to draw more attention to themselves.  I already know that celebrities are not people to be idolized or copied. 

[240B]

Small town. My guess would be the SWAT team was called in and not local. If a local cop(s) went in and saw their neighbor, or relative, lying there dead, the end result may have been very different.

If he had fired at SWAT, he would be dead right now. So he had the "bravery" to shoot five unarmed women but when the real guys showed up, he dropped his weapon and went peacefully. What a coward.

BTW, something that has been bothering me is, where was the security guard in all this? Is this a bank with no security? Is this bank a 'gun free zone'?

[bigheadfred]

I tried it.  I really did.  But I can't handle that stuff.  Some things I think they were being overly alarmist about, but most of what they talk about I have no interest and/or participation in.  I'm comfortable and confident in my beliefs and I have no interest in people warning me about what bleep nuts like celebrities do to draw more attention to themselves.  I already know that celebrities are not people to be idolized or copied.

I respect that.

The things they talk about in the vid is stuff that would draw in this guy. Apparently, he has a fascination with death. Where does he get that from?

Some people stopped by to look at the pups a little while ago. One for their slightly off, or should I say "special needs" 12-year-old. He was here, too. He seemed nice enough and "here". My wife asked him what he liked? He calmly replied, "Killing people", and after a few seconds added, "I play video games". I am serious. My eyes widened a bit. But I didn't say anything. He was very excited about getting a puppy. His interaction with the one he chose kinda showed his more true mental age. His mom says they have a couple of other cats. But this will be his dog. They will be weaned in 3 more weeks.

[Wingnut]

Is this the guy that was "upset" that he was still a virgin?

[bigheadfred]

If he had fired at SWAT, he would be dead right now. So he had the "bravery" to shoot five unarmed women but when the real guys showed up, he dropped his weapon and went peacefully. What a coward.

BTW, something that has been bothering me is, where was the security guard in all this? Is this a bank with no security? Is this bank a 'gun free zone'?

Again small town. The town I live in--4000 pop. has a branch of the credit union we use and 3 banks. No guards. Nor anyone visible in the credit union main branch in the big town. Not that go in and ask about any of their security. They seem to do a good job on the cyber side.

[mountaineer]

... Xaver kept a scant presence on social media with a Facebook page that listed nine friends while including a single photo of the man. The page shows he lived in Sebring and is single. Another Facebook Page, apparently set up when he lived in Plymouth, Indiana, shows an image of the Grim Reaper and a meme that reads, ‘God is busy right now…may I help you?’

That page shows 334 friends and that Xaver, who also appears to be a Japanese anime fan, lived in Bremen, Indiana. A Twitter account set up in 2017 also turns up, following a variety of people, including President Donald Trump, Rolling Stones lead singer Mick Jagger and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker.  ...USA Today

[jmyrlefuller]

Yet again, the media only cares about a shooting if they can blame a white man.

[RoosGirl]

I respect that.

The things they talk about in the vid is stuff that would draw in this guy. Apparently, he has a fascination with death. Where does he get that from?

Some people stopped by to look at the pups a little while ago. One for their slightly off, or should I say "special needs" 12-year-old. He was here, too. He seemed nice enough and "here". My wife asked him what he liked? He calmly replied, "Killing people", and after a few seconds added, "I play video games". I am serious. My eyes widened a bit. But I didn't say anything. He was very excited about getting a puppy. His interaction with the one he chose kinda showed his more true mental age. His mom says they have a couple of other cats. But this will be his dog. They will be weaned in 3 more weeks.

Yeah, well, the guy was obviously unstable, and all the stuff that video was talking about I attribute to being followed by the mentally infirm.

[bigheadfred]

Yeah, well, the guy was obviously unstable, and all the stuff that video was talking about I attribute to being followed by the mentally infirm.

"mentally infirm" is a broad brush.

Am I allowed to say "broad"?

[Wingnut]

Yeah, well, the guy was obviously unstable, and all the stuff that video was talking about I attribute to being followed by the mentally infirm.

He was such a moody child, very hard to touch.
Even as a baby he never smiled too much.....

[Cyber Liberty]

"mentally infirm" is a broad brush.

Am I allowed to say "broad"?

Only chicks are allowed to say, "broad."  What kind of an idiot calls a broad a chick?

[RoosGirl]

"mentally infirm" is a broad brush.

Am I allowed to say "broad"?

You can say broad, as long as you don-t follow it with brush.

[Wingnut]

There is nothing like a dame
Nothing in the world.