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Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
Breitbart, Jan 27, 2019

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Partial transcript as follows:

TODD: You have said you are opposed to the national emergency option. In three weeks, I know you have no appetite on either side of the aisle for another shutdown. So if that’s the only way to keep the government funded, he goes national emergency, how defiant are you on this option? Will you fight the president on this or not?

RUBIO: I don’t think it’s a good I think it will be a terrible idea. I hope he doesn’t do it.

TODD: But would you fight him on it?

RUBIO: Sure. Because I think it’s important. Look I don’t think we will have to fight. I’m not sure they will do that. I know it’s an option they looked at. But now you are at the mercy of a district court and ultimately an appellate court. It may not withstand if you look at some of the other rulings we have seen. The other is the precedent it would set. It’s not a good precedent to set. It doesn’t mean I don’t want border security. I do. I think that’s the wrong way to achieve it. It doesn’t provide certainty. You could wind up in a theatric victory at the front and not get it done. The best way to do it is to have a law that funds border security so we know it’s going to happen.


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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2019, 08:52:47 pm »
The GOP talking point this morning was:  "We don't want to set a precedent".

I can't figure out the deal they're setting up here, but it involves tying the President's hands.



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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2019, 08:53:45 pm »
The GOP talking point this morning was:  "We don't want to set a precedent".

 

As if the Rats wouldn't do it, anyway.

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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 08:57:29 pm »
As if the Rats wouldn't do it, anyway.

I agree ... and it's been done dozens of times by several presidents.

I'm getting a queasy feeling that something's being ironed out that the President and we will not like.  And our side (OUR SIDE) is telling the President not to there ....

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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2019, 08:58:20 pm »
   I agree @dfwgator If the dems gain the Senate in 2020, the first Legislation Majority Leader schumer will do is 'Full Nuck Option' for everything.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2019, 09:04:47 pm »
You could wind up in a theatric victory at the front and not get it done.

That's all Trump cares about.  It's the ratings, now go get some water. 88finger point

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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2019, 09:16:26 pm »
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RUBIO: Sure. Because I think it’s important. Look I don’t think we will have to fight. I’m not sure they will do that. I know it’s an option they looked at. But now you are at the mercy of a district court and ultimately an appellate court. It may not withstand if you look at some of the other rulings we have seen. The other is the precedent it would set. It’s not a good precedent to set. It doesn’t mean I don’t want border security. I do. I think that’s the wrong way to achieve it. It doesn’t provide certainty. You could wind up in a theatric victory at the front and not get it done. The best way to do it is to have a law that funds border security so we know it’s going to happen.


He’s correct about the precedent. The issue with a legal challenge won’t be over authority to declare the emergency, but over the re-allocation of money. The challenges will take time. Even if SCOTUS decides in favor of the executive branch, under the 1976 law, the legislative branch can block the declaration. The legal battle will give them time to gauge opinion and gather support. Even if the measure was defeated through the court or legislative action, the precedent is set for the next president to make a declaration on their pet project, such as gun control or healthcare.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2019, 11:38:40 pm »
K Street has issued it's orders and they WILL be carried out.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2019, 11:41:13 pm »

He’s correct about the precedent. The issue with a legal challenge won’t be over authority to declare the emergency, but over the re-allocation of money. The challenges will take time. Even if SCOTUS decides in favor of the executive branch, under the 1976 law, the legislative branch can block the declaration. The legal battle will give them time to gauge opinion and gather support. Even if the measure was defeated through the court or legislative action, the precedent is set for the next president to make a declaration on their pet project, such as gun control or healthcare.


or Climate Change..


I think Trump should do it the old fashioned way. The go through Congress part that was setup by our Founding Fathers.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2019, 11:46:30 pm »
or Climate Change..


I think Trump should do it the old fashioned way. The go through Congress part that was setup by our Founding Fathers.


What he’s likely to get is a bill for ‘border security’ that includes tons of things, except funds specifically for a wall.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2019, 11:49:08 pm »


   The Gang of 8 is still strong in that boy.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2019, 11:50:23 pm »

What he’s likely to get is a bill for ‘border security’ that includes tons of things, except funds specifically for a wall.


Probaly since Mexico is going to pay for it.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2019, 11:54:50 pm »
I am not familiar with this Rubio guy. There used to be a Senator Rubio who swore to everyone he was done with politics after he embarrassingly flamed out in a Presidential run.

Marco Rubio Says He Won’t Run for Re-Election — or Governor in 2018

https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/03/17/marco-rubio-says-he-wont-run-for-re-election-or-governor-in-2018/


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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2019, 12:03:04 am »
   I would certainly acknowledge that the Tea Party make some mistakes in Endorsements in the 2010 election cycle, Hindsight is always 2020, which I incidentally think would make a Great Bumper Sticker for Sen. Cruz later this year.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 12:05:21 am »
K Street has issued it's orders and they WILL be carried out.

So... in actuality, there's no real point in voting?
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2019, 12:07:15 am »
So... in actuality, there's no real point in voting?

Sure looks that way.

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2019, 12:13:11 am »
So... in actuality, there's no real point in voting?


People like Steyer and Soros run the Democratic Party and the GOP is controlled by the Koch Organization and the Chamber of Commerce. Both are subservient to Wall St entities like Goldman Sachs.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2019, 01:48:37 am »

What he’s likely to get is a bill for ‘border security’ that includes tons of things, except funds specifically for a wall.

He's not getting squat for anything border related guaranteed.  Open borders is what DEMS want.  It increases their voting base.  Game over.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2019, 01:52:30 am »
He's not getting squat for anything border related guaranteed.  Open borders is what DEMS want.  It increases their voting base.  Game over.


He’ll get offers including money for BP agents, port of entry upgrades, and tech....but no barrier funding.
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Re: Rubio: I Will Fight Trump Declaring National Emergency for Border Wall
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2019, 03:14:15 am »
RUBIO!


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