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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2019, 07:04:52 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 18, 2019, 06:51:53 pm
I comprehend it quite well.  No actual source .... as in the name of any source.... was mentioned.  All of your hopes are being hung on Cohen's testimony and his words to law enforcement aimed at saving his lying a$$ and lessening his time served.   It's obvious to everyone here... but you.  lol

The source is the ultimate insider...goes by the name of "Anonymous". For Once-ler, Anonymous is unimpeachable...unlike the President. In fact, if you've got TDS "Anonymous" knows all, sees all, and should always be acknowledged as the arbiter of truth. Deep Throat...no, not the movie...was an outsider by comparison.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2019, 07:08:57 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on January 18, 2019, 07:04:52 pm
The source is the ultimate insider...goes by the name of "Anonymous". For Once-ler, Anonymous is unimpeachable...unlike the President. In fact, if you've got TDS "Anonymous" knows all, sees all, and should always be acknowledged as the arbiter of truth. Deep Throat...no, not the movie...was an outsider by comparison.

So the issue is one of proof.   But do you agree that if the charge is true - that Trump instructed to Cohen to lie under oath before Congress - that's an impeachable offense?   (Remember that Clinton's impeachable (and disbar-able) offense was perjury.)   
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2019, 07:12:27 pm »
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So the issue is one of proof.   But do you agree that if the charge is true - that Trump instructed to Cohen to lie under oath before Congress - that's an impeachable offense?   

Of course. If President Trump directly and clearly told Cohen..."go lie to congress on my behalf"...then that is an impeachable offense. Do you really believe that that is what occurred?

At this point, there is no more reason to believe that than to believe unicorns are real...or that Once-ler is a double agent Trump supporter secretly sabotaging the NT's with his postings.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2019, 07:23:51 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on January 18, 2019, 07:04:52 pm
The source is the ultimate insider...goes by the name of "Anonymous". For Once-ler, Anonymous is unimpeachable...unlike the President. In fact, if you've got TDS "Anonymous" knows all, sees all, and should always be acknowledged as the arbiter of truth. Deep Throat...no, not the movie...was an outsider by comparison.

Yeah.  I know.  I just wanted him to acknowledge it.

The real source is that a$$hat Mueller, I'm betting.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2019, 07:26:07 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 18, 2019, 06:51:53 pm
I comprehend it quite well.  No actual source .... as in the name of any source.... was mentioned.  All of your hopes are being hung on Cohen's testimony and his words to law enforcement aimed at saving his lying a$$ and lessening his time served.   It's obvious to everyone here... but you.  lol

Time will tell @XenaLee .  I understand this is a story and the facts remain unproven, but the story sounds credible to me.  Perhaps with multiple House investigations the facts will eventually emerge.  I'm sure we are both thankful that Speaker Pelosi and her House delegation was thwarted from a secret visit of our troops in Afghanistan.  Unfortunately this may make them more anxious to jump start the investigations.


https://twitter.com/JoaquinCastrotx/status/1086116842224140289
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If the @BuzzFeed story is true, President Trump must resign or be impeached.

They sound interested.

I believe we will endure many more months of bitterness before Trump is replaced.  Yay  :cheerlead: and I'm hoping we can squeeze out at least one more season of the Trump show before it gets cancelled.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2019, 07:26:50 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 18, 2019, 07:08:57 pm
So the issue is one of proof.   But do you agree that if the charge is true - that Trump instructed to Cohen to lie under oath before Congress - that's an impeachable offense?   (Remember that Clinton's impeachable (and disbar-able) offense was perjury.)   

Uh... there's a big/huge difference here.  Clinton lied under oath in front of God and everybody.  All the idiot left has (thus far) is Cohen's lies to cover his @ss.   

They got NOTHING.   Unless or until they create and/or fabricate something they 'think' will stand or work for them.  And I have no doubt that they are furiously working on that fabrication as we speak.

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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2019, 07:31:44 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 18, 2019, 07:26:07 pm
Time will tell @XenaLee .  I understand this is a story and the facts remain unproven, but the story sounds credible to me.  Perhaps with multiple House investigations the facts will eventually emerge.  I'm sure we are both thankful that Speaker Pelosi and her House delegation was thwarted from a secret visit of our troops in Afghanistan.  Unfortunately this may make them more anxious to jump start the investigations.

Oh... make no mistake.   The tits (pardon pun) for tat are tallying up by the day... and I have to wonder if this trip business wasn't just a classic setup by the left to give them something (else) to use against Trump.  If so, it worked like a charm. 

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They sound interested.

I believe we will endure many more months of bitterness before Trump is replaced.  Yay  :cheerlead: and I'm hoping we can squeeze out at least one more season of the Trump show before it gets cancelled.

You're counting, like the rabid left is, on Trump being replaced.   I suggest that you 'gird your loins' (pardon Biden ref) and prepare yourself for sublime disappointment.   :laugh:
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2019, 07:35:11 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 18, 2019, 07:08:57 pm
So the issue is one of proof.   But do you agree that if the charge is true - that Trump instructed to Cohen to lie under oath before Congress - that's an impeachable offense?   (Remember that Clinton's impeachable (and disbar-able) offense was perjury.)   

I would consider suborning (sp) Perjury an impeachable offense. Ask Bill Clinton.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2019, 07:58:42 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 18, 2019, 07:31:44 pm
I suggest that you 'gird your loins' (pardon Biden ref) and prepare yourself for sublime disappointment.   :laugh:

I've been disappointed by Trump for over 2 years.  Bring it on.   happy77
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2019, 08:21:35 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 18, 2019, 07:58:42 pm
I've been disappointed by Trump for over 2 years.  Bring it on.   happy77

What, specifically, has disappointed you? 
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2019, 08:34:52 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on January 18, 2019, 07:12:27 pm
Of course. If President Trump directly and clearly told Cohen..."go lie to congress on my behalf"...then that is an impeachable offense. Do you really believe that that is what occurred?

At this point, there is no more reason to believe that than to believe unicorns are real...or that Once-ler is a double agent Trump supporter secretly sabotaging the NT's with his postings.

I don't believe @Once-Ler is a double agent.  The left would not have him.

But I don't believe Cohen has any credibility in this. 
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2019, 08:43:45 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 18, 2019, 08:21:35 pm
What, specifically, has disappointed you?

You should recognize some of it already but spending, tariffs, making government swampier, abandoning Clinton investigations, appeasement to Putin, but mostly being the worst human on the face of the planet.  Trump believes America revolves around Trump.  Things like being thankful for himself on Thanksgiving, slighting war veterens because it's raining, dis-inviting the Eagles, slandering a race as rapists and gangbangers...stuff like that.

He takes credit for saving Christmas and ending plane crashes.  Great economy?   Trump didn't do that.  Speaker Ryan did that.  Conservative judges?  Trump didn't do that either.  Cocaine Mitch did that.  Trump has spent more time tweeting and golfing than glad handing and making deals.  Almost all of his legitimate accomplishments are executive orders that will disappear faster than Obama's...but the damage to our country will last much longer.

Thanx for asking.

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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2019, 08:57:10 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 18, 2019, 08:43:45 pm
You should recognize some of it already but spending, tariffs, making government swampier, abandoning Clinton investigations, appeasement to Putin, but mostly being the worst human on the face of the planet.  Trump believes America revolves around Trump.  Things like being thankful for himself on Thanksgiving, slighting war veterens because it's raining, dis-inviting the Eagle, slandering a race as rapists and gangbangers...stuff like that.

Wow.  Where to begin.   

I agree on the spending issue... but then, Trump never presented himself as a fiscal Conservative (which is one reason most Conservatives were not 'for' him).  At least he didn't ""misrepresent (lie) himself" on that one. 

Tariffs thus far don't seem to have done much damage... that story ain't over yet.  So I'd have to say "meh" on that one. 

Making government swampier?  Than what it already is?  Impossible!  So no. 

Abandoning Clinton investigations.... yeah.  I'll agree with that one. 

Appeasement to Putin... I interpret as him seeing no point in pushing for bad or worse relations with an enemy nation. It's logical and common sense.  Do YOU see any point in pushing for bad or worse relations with Russia? 

For the rest, let me be blunt.  I see it as just emotional blather... similar to what you would see on DU or any of the rabidly leftist websites.  That's on you. 

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He takes credit for saving Christmas and ending plane crashes.  Great economy?   Trump didn't do that.  Speaker Ryan did that. Conservative judges?  Trump didn't do that either.  Cocaine Mitch did that.  Trump has spent more time tweeting and golfing than glad handing and making deals.  Almost all of his legitimate accomplishments are executive orders that will disappear faster than Obama's...but the damage to our country will last much longer.

Wrong.  Trump's policies like cutting corporate tax rates, and tax cuts (NOT targeted like the idiot left always wants) across the board .... putting more cash in people's pockets.... is what has boosted the economy.  It is literally the adrenaline shot the economy has needed for the past decade.   

As for Conservative judges, which judges did Mitch the Bitch nominate???   

As for damage to this country, that's all been done and will continue to be done by the g'damned leftist Democrats.  Not by Trump.

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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2019, 09:04:28 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 18, 2019, 08:57:10 pm
Mitch the Bitch

Good one.  Trump can use that during impeachment. 

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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2019, 09:23:07 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 18, 2019, 09:04:28 pm
Good one.  Trump can use that during impeachment. 

My pleasure.

Your answer is a good one, though I may disagree with some of it.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2019, 09:31:35 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 18, 2019, 08:57:10 pm
Wow.  Where to begin.   

I agree on the spending issue... but then, Trump never presented himself as a fiscal Conservative (which is one reason most Conservatives were not 'for' him).  At least he didn't ""misrepresent (lie) himself" on that one. 

Tariffs thus far don't seem to have done much damage... that story ain't over yet.  So I'd have to say "meh" on that one. 

Making government swampier?  Than what it already is?  Impossible!  So no. 

Abandoning Clinton investigations.... yeah.  I'll agree with that one. 

Appeasement to Putin... I interpret as him seeing no point in pushing for bad or worse relations with an enemy nation. It's logical and common sense.  Do YOU see any point in pushing for bad or worse relations with Russia? 

For the rest, let me be blunt.  I see it as just emotional blather... similar to what you would see on DU or any of the rabidly leftist websites.  That's on you. 

Wrong.  Trump's policies like cutting corporate tax rates, and tax cuts (NOT targeted like the idiot left always wants) across the board .... putting more cash in people's pockets.... is what has boosted the economy.  It is literally the adrenaline shot the economy has needed for the past decade.   

As for Conservative judges, which judges did Mitch the Bitch nominate???   

As for damage to this country, that's all been done and will continue to be done by the g'damned leftist Democrats.  Not by Trump.

Thanks for answering.

I think Trump might have mentioned something about paying off the debt.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2019, 12:57:21 am »
Hmm... 

Levin says that Mueller & Co. released (finally, after 7 pm) a comment saying today's BuzzFeed BS claims about Trump is NOT ACCURATE.

Mark takes issue with why it took them so long to correct that record.  But we know why.

Idiot lefties are probably on suicide watch right about now.   :2popcorn:

https://www.axios.com/muellers-investigation-goes-on-the-record-to-deny-buzzfeed-report-a07f65a6-611a-42de-adf6-91f337ddfdf1.html


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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #67 on: January 19, 2019, 01:01:14 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 18, 2019, 03:41:16 pm
Not the Trump zombies.  Trump can break any laws he wants.  Trump could shoot a man on 5th ave and those poor souls wouldn't care.

My friend...it seems you've got your heart rate up for yet another fake news story.

Shame on BuzzFeed.

And shame on Robert Mueller for waiting until Friday evening to speak up.  Dirty bastard.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2019, 01:05:59 am »
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Are you kidding buddy?  We are gonna have a great weekend.   444444


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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2019, 01:19:28 am »
Two years and nothing on Trump.  All you fools that think Mueller will manifest anything against Trump are dreaming.

This Buzzfeed story is bogus, and Cohen is going to prison because he has lied to authorities, so nothing he says can be taken with anything more than a grain of sand.  This story goes no where.

Trump goes to bed laughing at these fools. 

And frankly, had Trump explored the possibility of building a tower in Russia, there is no law against that either.  The idiocy of declaring our president to be anything but patriotic is astounding.  I am sick of this nonsense, and frankly, the Dems are burying themselves with this narrative.  It is un-American.  They should prepare for record losses in 2020, because America will be sick of Pelosi, Waters, Schumer, Warren, AOC, and the rest of the fruitloops.  I no longer consider the Democommie Party a viable party in the USA.  The Green Party has more credibility.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #70 on: January 19, 2019, 01:20:54 am »
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My friend...it seems you've got your heart rate up for yet another fake news story.

Shame on BuzzFeed.

And shame on Robert Mueller for waiting until Friday evening to speak up.  Dirty bastard.

I think waiting was good so they would blow their wad on this story.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2019, 01:23:43 am »
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I think waiting was good so they would blow their wad on this story.

...except that the typical citizen subconsciously got pummeled for another 24 hour period with this Russia, Russia, Russia nonsense.
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Re: Dems demand answers following explosive new Cohen report
« Reply #72 on: January 19, 2019, 04:26:18 am »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mueller-team-disputes-buzzfeed-report-claiming-trump-told-cohen-to-lie

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