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Re: Senate to take up Trump's border-immigration plan next week
« Reply #100 on: January 22, 2019, 02:07:38 am »
Quote from: edpc on January 22, 2019, 02:01:44 am

Imagine the reaction at one of his rallies if instead of saying “we’re going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it,” he said, “we’re going to protect DACA kids and you’re going to pay for it.”

Exactly.  888high58888
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Re: Senate to take up Trump's border-immigration plan next week
« Reply #101 on: January 22, 2019, 02:16:36 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 21, 2019, 11:26:59 pm
You can have your insults, you can have your hate, you can have your tantrum, but you cannot have your own facts @Hoodat

The President has not proposed, endorsed or suggested amnesty in any shape, manner or form.  Anyone with two working brain cells knows this.

Trump's immigration plan: Deport the undocumented, 'legal status' for some

By Jeremy Diamond, CNN     |     Updated 8:48 AM ET, Thu July 30, 2015

 (CNN)Donald Trump, the Republican presidential hopeful who shot up to the head of the pack over his controversial comments about illegal immigrants, is finally starting to lay out an immigration policy.
Trump said Wednesday in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash that as president he would deport all undocumented immigrants and then allow the "good ones" to reenter the country through an "expedited process" and live in the U.S. legally, though not as citizens.
"Legal status," Trump suggested. "We got to move 'em out, we're going to move 'em back in if they're really good people."

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/29/politics/donald-trump-immigration-plan-healthcare-flip-flop/index.html

This is what is known as Touchback Amnesty.  Trump even campaigned on it.  And people like you have been lying about it the entire time.  I believe an apology from you is in order, @Right_in_Virginia
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Re: Senate to take up Trump's border-immigration plan next week
« Reply #102 on: January 22, 2019, 02:28:54 am »
   Very appropriate response, @Hoodat I was looking for the video of that earlier.
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Re: Senate to take up Trump's border-immigration plan next week
« Reply #103 on: January 22, 2019, 02:32:34 am »
Legal status is not the same as naturalization. I don’t think DACA will go as far as citizenship anyway. Most Americans would probably support the idea of eventual permanent resident status for DACA.

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Re: Senate to take up Trump's border-immigration plan next week
« Reply #104 on: January 22, 2019, 02:44:25 am »
Quote from: aligncare on January 22, 2019, 02:32:34 am
Legal status is not the same as naturalization.

However, Legal Status is still Amnesty.  It takes an illegal status and turns it into a legal one.
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Re: Senate to take up Trump's border-immigration plan next week
« Reply #105 on: January 22, 2019, 02:46:31 am »
Quote from: aligncare on January 22, 2019, 02:32:34 am
Legal status is not the same as naturalization. I don’t think DACA will go as far as citizenship anyway. Most Americans would probably support the idea of eventual permanent resident status for DACA.

No.  Permanent residency IS amnesty -- and is an eventual path to citizenship

Let's not forget the DREAM Act of 2017 --


On July 20, 2017, Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Jeff Flake (R-AZ), and Chuck Schumer (D-NY) introduced the Dream Act of 2017. It is a bipartisan bill that would provide a direct road to U.S. citizenship for people who are either undocumented, have DACA or temporary protected status (TPS), and who graduate from U.S. high schools and attend college, enter the workforce, or enlist in the military.

https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/dream-act-2017-summary-and-faq/
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Re: Senate to take up Trump's border-immigration plan next week
« Reply #106 on: January 22, 2019, 04:10:11 am »
Quote from: libertybele on January 22, 2019, 02:07:38 am
Exactly.  888high58888

Somehow I don't think that would go over at all.

I think this is going to be a tough vote for a lot of Democrats. Odds are that when a real court hears the silly injunction ordered by #Resistance judges that DACA will be dead. Even without that, there is a lawsuit brewing in the Fifth Circuit to have DACA ruled unconstitutional much as its demented sibling, DAPA, was.

If this bill passes the Senate, then Nancy Pelosi will be in a very awkward position. She either has to spurn an offer that gives relief to DREAMers or she can continue to act out on her snit.

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/01/21/mitch-mcconnell-ups-stakes-government-shutdown-game/
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