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« on: January 13, 2019, 02:34:55 pm »
J.R.R. Tolkien: A Biographical Sketch
By David Doughan MBE

Who was Tolkien?

John Ronald Reuel Tolkien (1892–1973) was a major scholar of the English language, specialising in Old and Middle English. Twice Professor of Anglo-Saxon (Old English) at the University of Oxford, he also wrote a number of stories, including most famously The Hobbit (1937) and The Lord of the Rings (1954–1955), which are set in a pre-historic era in an invented version of our world which he called by the Middle English name of Middle-earth. This was peopled by Men (and women), Elves, Dwarves, Trolls, Orcs (or Goblins) and of course Hobbits. He has regularly been condemned by the Eng. Lit. establishment, with honourable exceptions, but loved by literally millions of readers worldwide.

In the 1960s he was taken up by many members of the nascent “counter-culture” largely because of his concern with environmental issues. In 1997 he came top of three British polls, organised respectively by Channel 4 / Waterstone’s, the Folio Society, and SFX, the UK’s leading science fiction media magazine, amongst discerning readers asked to vote for the greatest book of the 20th century. Please note also that his name is spelt Tolkien (there is no “Tolkein”).

https://www.tolkiensociety.org/author/biography/

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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 04:35:57 pm »
I've tried to read his drivel several times,and never could make it past the first few chapters.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 04:48:23 pm »
I've read them all!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 05:13:50 pm »
I've read them all!

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You are clearly made of sterner stuff than I am.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 11:49:33 pm »
I've never had any interest in the Tolkein books.
Stuff like that just doesn't interest me.

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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 02:37:14 pm »
Tolkien vs. Lewis on Faith and Fantasy
http://www.cslewis.com/tolkien-vs-lewis-on-faith-and-fantasy/

...For Lewis, the connection between his faith and his fantasy was explicit, and he actually joked about “smuggling theology” into his stories. By contrast, Tolkien believed that the connection should be implicit, explaining that he deliberately “kept allusions to the highest matters down to mere hints” (Letters 201). Tolkien believed that the highest calling of the Christian artist was to be a “sub-creator,” to create plausible and self-consistent Secondary Worlds, rather than composing tales set in the Primary World in which we live.

The doctrine of sub-creation was especially congenial to Tolkien, both as a Christian and as a fantasy writer.  As a Christian, Tolkien could view sub-creation as a form of worship, a way for creatures to express the divine image in them by becoming creators.  As a fantasy writer, Tolkien could affirm his chosen genre as one of the purest of all fictional modes, because it called for the creation not only of characters and incidents, but also of worlds for them to exist in.

But this same doctrine has created some confusion among Tolkien’s readers and interpreters. Some critics assume that Tolkien compartmentalized his faith and his fiction, that his personal convictions are largely irrelevant to his fantasy tales. Others have erred in the opposite direction, finding allegory in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, so that Gandalf = Christ, Sauron = Satan, etc. Tolkien heartily disliked allegory, and he strenuously objected whenever readers tried to “translate” his Middle Earth tales into either theological or historical parables....
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 09:45:46 pm »
Respectfully,
Many appear unaware of the trans-formative event of Tolkien's life.
In 1916 he was a 24 year old Lieut. in the Lancashire Fusiliers.
That year was arguably the most disastrous in the 10,000 year history of Britain and English people.
Engaged in a relentless and losing struggle w/Imperial Germany, the British High Command decided
that a massive breakthrough was the key to winning the Great War; hence on July 1, 1916 they launched an attack at the Somme in Belgium.
By the end of the first day of battle, Britain had sustained some 58,000 killed, wounded and missing.
Refusing to face reality, her Generals continued the attack till November sustaining almost 500,000
casualties; an event from which Britain has never recovered!
Tolkien witnessed all of it and it colored everything he thought and wrote from that event onward!!!!
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2019, 06:24:52 am »
I've tried to read his drivel several times,and never could make it past the first few chapters.

@sneakypete


I suppose it depends on how young you were.

Most of his characters were washed out, bleached stereotypes lifted from old Viking poems and tales of 1,000 years earlier.

It cracked me up that his main hero, Gandalf, wasn't even his.

The name comes from a section of an old poem, called a 'thular' which was a listing of Viking Elf names.

It translates directly as the "Sorcerer Elf".

And his mythical 'Varg' the wolf like creature his Orcs rode, is a Viking name for Outlaw, meaning Wolf.


Comparing him to Lewis, that don't work for me either.

Tolkein was fun when I was a little kid but Lewis I didn't get to till my forties.

And by then his Narnia was juvenile gibberish so I never got there.

But I did make 2 stabs at his explanations of Christianity.

EGAD! Circular arguments that made NO sense at all.


Both those guys made a Major Impression on me, and all of it bad by the time I sat down to write my own.

It was "DON'T DO THIS" under any circumstances.

And since 'magic' and witches are almost required, I made some adjustments.

My witch has no supernatural powers beyond suggestion.

She's a nasty old woman with a tongue like a razor.

And she's the Chieftain's lawyer.

Lawyers/Witches, what's the difference?
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2019, 09:28:23 am »


Lawyers/Witches, what's the difference?
One is an evil creature which deceives, conjures evils, and generally creates misery.

The other is a witch. :shrug:
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2019, 01:49:10 am »
Respectfully,


Tolkien witnessed all of it and it colored everything he thought and wrote from that event onward!!!!

@Absalom

I have to admit that would make ME dream of a different world also,but still don't understand why anyone else would be interested in it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2019, 02:58:19 am »
@Absalom

I have to admit that would make ME dream of a different world also,but still don't understand why anyone else would be interested in it.
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Sneaky, fair enough.
I suspect he needed the fantastic to survive.

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Sneaky, fair enough.
I suspect he needed the fantastic to survive.

@Absalom

I can't argue with anything anyone can find that works for them.  I just didn't and don't "get it" when it comes to fantasy sci-fi.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2019, 03:51:33 am »
@Absalom

I can't argue with anything anyone can find that works for them.  I just didn't and don't "get it" when it comes to fantasy sci-fi.

For quite a while JRR's legacy as a kingpin of Heroic Fantasy got badly bruised by Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian.

LOTR was predicated upon a King/Divine Right returning to power to restore the proper order of things.

Howard's Conan was a dirt poor, savage mercenary and thief who robbed, fought, and murdered his way to the top.

BTW: Howard, HP Lovecraft, and Clark Ashton Smith were pen pals who regularly traded stories for critiques by each other before sending them out to magazine editors for sale.

Of the three I found Smith to be the best writer.

Follows my favorite of Smith's: (complete)

http://www.eldritchdark.com/writings/short-stories/210/the-testament-of-athammaus

I choose to read it as an allegory of Govt grown and run completely amok.

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