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What you are seeing is the Democrats saying loudly "We will not protect the border. Society's security doesn't matter". All that matters to them is Impeachment.

They learned nothing from 2016.

Social security won't be affected anyways ... that's been a scare tactic of the DEMS for a long time. Pretty much a lot of services would still continue on. This is what a shutdown would affect:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/government-shutdown-affect/story?id=52463538
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Yes, but what about the very serious issue of Donald Trump’s campaign finance violations and collusion with Russia? Any deal on wall funding would be forever tainted by having been struck with an illegitimate president!!!!


Everything you posted is LEFT TALKING POINTS and wrong.  You are talking about OBAMA. Clintons Money Laundering foundation & Obamas money from SAUDI'S. Tom Fife on Russia grooming Obama to be president. Clintons Uranium deal with Russia.  Obama is the illegitimate president. Not born in USA.  Why are there so many uninformed people?

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https://youtu.be/y84Rt5PHHDA


The First Time I Heard Of Barack.      By Tom Fife.   11-20-08
 
During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.
 
V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.
 
One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.
 
As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.
 
The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:
 
"You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn't do it."
 
The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.
 
"Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."
 
The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.
 
"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"
 
The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."
 
It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."
 
"Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your President."
 
She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."
 
We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.
 
She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.
 
She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."
 
At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.
 
Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African'", she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."
 
She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.
 
So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?
 
Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.
 
Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.
 
Tom Fife
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With thousands of migrants rushing the border,  I think this is the hill to die on.   I've never supported shutting down the government for stupid stuff like defunding PP,  but national sovereignty and the security of our borders are worth the price.   Trump is past the most recent election cycle and right now is in as good a position as any to take the pain of a prolonged government shutdown.   

The issue is important,  and easy to understand and articulate to the American people.   Go for it, Mr. President - if Schumer/Pelosi won't approve full funding to secure the border, shut the damn government down.   That's a far better approach than crippling commerce by stopping cross-border traffic.

Right on, @Jazzhead.  The most fundamental obligation of any government is to protect the country's territory.  A government which cannot accomplish that, or worse, *will* not accomplish that, is simply not needed by the people.  If the FedGov won't do this, then let's turn out the lights.
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THAT is why Donald Trump is the ONLY man for the job right now...any other Republican in that discussion would have wilted under that spotlight...the man just plain fights for the border wall....fights for Border Security....fights for every Conservative issue....and calls out these Left wing phonies for the vacuous-blathering-hypocrites they are. Put any of the Never Trump Republican in that room...like Flake, Sasse, Murkowski, Kasich, etcetera...and you hear a bunch of mealy mouthed, surrendur monkey, double speak about bipartisanship...ending with the Right giving away everything in a “compromise” and the Left giving up nothing.

Shut it down, Mr President.  And I say this as someone who will not get paid if this happens.

Totally agree and this is what I always think and say when people criticize Trump.  Trump is really a Man for this Time.
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Social security won't be affected anyways ... that's been a scare tactic of the DEMS for a long time. Pretty much a lot of services would still continue on. This is what a shutdown would affect:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/government-shutdown-affect/story?id=52463538

Correct.  And Pelosi the communist, supported Obama when, Obama did it!  Veterans could not go to memorial's, kids could not tour W.H. with his  sequester.   It is all temp. and everyone affected, receive their PAY later.  Social security still is paid, police & firefighters still paid.  CONGRESS....NOT PAID.   P.S.  I was wrong about congress. They still get paid. Crap.
So it is only Federal employees.   So Congress support staff pay, is stopped. They have to get their OWN COFFEE! 
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The last shutdown happened in 2013 and lasted 16 days.  UNDER OBAMA.  HEY PELOSI!  :seeya:

Nearly 800,000 federal employees were out of work without pay. In addition, more than a million other working employees had their paychecks delayed. On day five of the shutdown, Congress voted to give the furloughed government employees retroactive pay.
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Everything you posted is LEFT TALKING POINTS and wrong.  You are talking about OBAMA. Clintons Money Laundering foundation & Obamas money from SAUDI'S. Tom Fife on Russia grooming Obama to be president. Clintons Uranium deal with Russia.  Obama is the illegitimate president. Not born in USA.  Why are there so many uninformed people?

You’re right. I was speaking ironically in my best democrat/NeverTrumper voice. Sorry, for not adding a sarcasm tag.

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You’re right. I was speaking ironically in my best democrat/NeverTrumper voice. Sorry, for not adding a sarcasm tag.


Ok, we are good.  :patriot:   Sarcasm does not translate well in the written word!   888high58888

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Ok, we are good.  :patriot:   Sarcasm does not translate well in the written word!   888high58888

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After he gets the wall built, it’s...

TRUMP 2020  :0012:

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Sorry...

That was great, I love it! "Transparency", that's why they want to hide behind closed doors and he wants it all out in the open, he's transparent.

Side note: Chuck really does look like a weasel
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The real title.  (Don't forget how NEWS loves to make it all president TRUMPs fault. BACKWARDS.)


DEMENTIA PELOSI & Loud mouth Schumer, don't fight for AMERICA. PRESIDENT TRUMP..DOES.


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Correct!  One of many, Paul Ryan,  who were PAID by SOROS to be traitors to America.  As long as THEY receive a lot of money for that.  Screw the Americans.  We the peasants.   :patriot:

I'm sure you have a credible link to show that Ryan was on the take from George Soros don't you?
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The real title.  (Don't forget how NEWS loves to make it all president TRUMPs fault. BACKWARDS.)


DEMENTIA PELOSI & Loud mouth Schumer, don't fight for AMERICA. PRESIDENT TRUMP..DOES.

OFFS!  *****rollingeyes*****
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This was a joke. Trump knows full well, after two years in office, there’s no political will for a real budget or a wall. The many iterations could not pass the House and he understands the 60 vote rule in the Senate is not constitutionally based. How? Because he’s called for the nuclear option to pass a budget and fund border security before.





This is all a charade.
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H/t DLR Pyro:

less than a month ago, pelosi was crowing about how the next congress will have transparancy...

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"I have overwhelming support in my caucus to be Speaker of the House," she told reporters last week at the U.S. Capitol. "I happen to think that, at this point, I'm the best person for that."

She has pledged the next Congress will aim for bipartisanship and transparency.

"We are going to be opening this Congress in a very, very open and transparent way to do what we said we were going to do," Pelosi said last week, detailing some of the priorities, including healthcare, minimum wage and shedding light on corruption in Washington.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/20/nancy-pelosi-house-speaker-bid-what-we-know/2073648002/

yet today, she seems to shun transparency...
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H/t DLR Pyro:

less than a month ago, pelosi was crowing about how the next congress will have transparancy...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/20/nancy-pelosi-house-speaker-bid-what-we-know/2073648002/

yet today, she seems to shun transparency...

Even more amazingly, today Pelosi thinks elections have consequences.


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From the article:
Pelosi noted, "this has spiraled downwards."

Translation:
We thought we were going to roll this guy, and he wouldn't budge.

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I don't see what the big deal is. We have more heated discussions here about biscuits than doddering old Nancy could splutter out today.

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The real title.  (Don't forget how NEWS loves to make it all president TRUMPs fault. BACKWARDS.)


DEMENTIA PELOSI & Loud mouth Schumer, don't fight for AMERICA. PRESIDENT TRUMP..DOES.

I am almost beginning to really pity her.  When she spoke she had a weakness and almost a stutter to her voice and fighting confusion.  Her dementia is very obvious.  Meanwhile Chuckie sat and laughed at the President. Nothing was accomplished other than the DEMS acknowledging that they aren't budging and neither is Trump and Pelosi's dementia is really taking hold.
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I loved watching this!

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I am almost beginning to really pity her.  When she spoke she had a weakness and almost a stutter to her voice and fighting confusion.  Her dementia is very obvious.  Meanwhile Chuckie sat and laughed at the President. Nothing was accomplished other than the DEMS acknowledging that they aren't budging and neither is Trump and Pelosi's dementia is really taking hold.

And yet incredibly, she's still marginally more coherent than 0bama without his teleprompter...
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Imagine that!!   :shrug:

If you're having trouble with my statement it's because you haven't been paying attention. 

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If you're having trouble with my statement it's because you haven't been paying attention.

Phffft!

I've been paying attention to you playing on that median strip going on four years now.    **nononono*

Very quick to jump in when a house NT is getting their ass handed to them...never showing any objectivity toward the POTUS in your posts.

You ain't fooling anyone, dear. 

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