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Offline Sanguine

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I don't believe the government can't be made to be useful.

Of course it can.  However, that does not address the question.  Or, any of the prior 574.

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Of course it can.  However, that does not address the question.  Or, any of the prior 574.

I think we're simply at an impasse.
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I'll use an extreme example to demonstrate my point.

How successful do you think Bill Gates and Albert Einstein would have been if they had been born in an illiterate African tribe instead of the United States? Success is determined by hard work and opportunity. The more opportunity young people have the more they will get out of their hard work.

Your assumptions are not true. Nor are your definitions.
I am very successful, and I am broke on my ass.

You should see how many of your millennials are finding out that success has nothing to do with climbing the social, academic, or corporate ladder.

Many are checking out of 'society', finding an acreage they can afford, building or remodeling a house thereon within their means, and finding peace and sanity in old, old ways - becoming self-sufficient and self-reliant... Staying out of debt, and raising their kids up with mud between their toes... And I admire them, I really do.

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I don't believe the government can't be made to be useful.

Then you are no different than the ones who are running it now.

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Then you are no different than the ones who are running it now.

I wish politics wasn't such a shit hole that you have to sell your soul to.
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I wish politics wasn't such a shit hole that you have to sell your soul to.

You would do better to let folks do for themselves, and do the same yourself. When you do that, you will find that government and politics are in your way, and not benevolent.

Your wishes are wonderful and utopian. And if wishes were wings a frog's ass wouldn't bump the ground.

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You would do better to let folks do for themselves, and do the same yourself. When you do that, you will find that government and politics are in your way, and not benevolent.

Your wishes are wonderful and utopian. And if wishes were wings a frog's ass wouldn't bump the ground.

I'm not in charge though, and they'll kill you. I won't fight that fight with you brother.
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Your assumptions are not true. Nor are your definitions.
I am very successful, and I am broke on my ass.

You should see how many of your millennials are finding out that success has nothing to do with climbing the social, academic, or corporate ladder.

Many are checking out of 'society', finding an acreage they can afford, building or remodeling a house thereon within their means, and finding peace and sanity in old, old ways - becoming self-sufficient and self-reliant... Staying out of debt, and raising their kids up with mud between their toes... And I admire them, I really do.

I've been watching the Tiny House movement for some time.  What an idea - live within one's means and without going into debt. 

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I'm not in charge though, and they'll kill you. I won't fight that fight with you brother.

Nah, they can't kill me. I mean, my own body may be gone, and me on to better places... But when what they do has turned everything to a smoking crater, my kind will crawl out of the rocks, make a spear and a fishin pole, and go right back to living.

It's yours that will be the cannon fodder, because of your reliance on others and faith in noble government. Them that do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

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Nah, they can't kill me. I mean, my own body may be gone, and me on to better places... But when what they do has turned everything to a smoking crater, my kind will crawl out of the rocks, make a spear and a fishin pole, and go right back to living.

It's yours that will be the cannon fodder, because of your reliance on others and faith in noble government. Them that do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

What can decent people do? Do you really think the Republicans are going to save us?
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I don't believe the government can't be made to be useful.

That didn't address my suggestion, either.
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BTW, I prefer a good, rich merlot, but I'm doing low-carb so it will have to be a nice whiskey.

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(I made it myself.)
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
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Nah, they can't kill me. I mean, my own body may be gone, and me on to better places... But when what they do has turned everything to a smoking crater, my kind will crawl out of the rocks, make a spear and a fishin pole, and go right back to living.

It's yours that will be the cannon fodder, because of your reliance on others and faith in noble government. Them that do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

Humans have always relied on each other. It's how we have survived for this long.
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Humans have always relied on each other. It's how we have survived for this long.

That is no excuse for embracing socialism.
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
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That is no excuse for embracing socialism.
Helping one another has never been the same as socialism.
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I've been watching the Tiny House movement for some time.  What an idea - live within one's means and without going into debt.

@Sanguine
God, but I am so proud of em. There's a young feller with a place up Patrick Creek that comes and sits on my porch... He spent his money on raw land, and spent as much as he could. Twenty acres of raw land paid in cash... it's got a good creek, and used to be a homestead before, so a couple pastures, though they are in fair disrepair. The forest has intruded for around 20 years.

He went up there with a pickup, a chainsaw, an Alaskan chainsaw mill, and a tote full of hand tools... and determination a mile wide.

He was up there on his own, living in a tent, and fell the trees and milled em, all by himself, after working all day... He made him a shed with a dirt floor in the first year to move into, and a barn, and a garden, and set about clearing the pastures and putting up jack-fence... After the first winter, he brought his wife and kid out.

You should see what that boy has done... all with his own two hands. What an adventure. They still don't have electricity... but he made her a neat little cabin. They have a couple rigs and a tractor now... And a barn full of critters. Them kids are coming up strong, and they'll do.

Now there's a millennial that knows where his bread is buttered.

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Helping one another has never been the same as socialism.

But people have been pushing socialism as a way of helping each other.  It sucks, and we are watching it right here, in the comfort of our homes.   9999hair out0000
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I will NOT comply.
 
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That is no excuse for embracing socialism.

One day technology is going to all but destroy the need for any human labor. It's very possible that technology will before too long become beyond human comprehension. One day the entire world will be socialist. It'll probably have one government too. I want to delay that for a while because I think it's better for me and mine, but yeah, it's happening.

Sorry.
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What can decent people do? Do you really think the Republicans are going to save us?

Wrong question. What can YOU do to save yourself? Then you don't need savin.

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Wrong question. What can YOU do to save yourself? Then you don't need savin.

They have forced me to live in the world they created. It's not that easy.
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Humans have always relied on each other. It's how we have survived for this long.

Humans have relied on each other in small, insular, related groups.  Contact between unrelated groups has generally been bloody, and frequently one group loses.

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They have forced me to live in the world they created. It's not that easy.

You have a strange way of standing up for yourself.
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
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Humans have always relied on each other. It's how we have survived for this long.

No... America is hewn out of raw land by rugged individuals, each their own. THEM folks rely on each other... Because they each can stand on their own, and thereby have something to offer the others.

That is a damnsite different than government handing out goodies, and in fact, it is government that removes people from standing on their own.

LIFE IS HARD. Stand up on your own two damn feet and get harder. Take the hit, and then some. That is winning.

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Those people should be identified and prevented from wasting more resources. We become the greatest in the world by identifying all of our most brilliant people and giving them plentiful opportunities to become educated so they can grow into the people that will make sure America stays on top forever.

You mean through things like college admission standards and scholarships for exceptional students?  Yes, let's throw more money into doing something that is already done.

Aight, I'm out, but it's been oodles of fun talking with the National Socialist about what a selfish creep I am for wanting to keep the money I earn.  Heil Dexter!