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Re: Abuses and Usurpations
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2018, 03:41:09 am »
Well, I did say I never saw the show.  So his character Nagin is meant to show the most vile creatures wear nice people skins?

He's actually an interesting character. Before the zombie apocalypse he was just a useless drunk that had nothing to offer society. His set of skills had no place in that world. Chaos and the law of the jungle gave him the space he needed to really take advantage of his strengths. He dominates people with fear and brutality.
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Re: Abuses and Usurpations
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2018, 05:04:40 am »
Republicans need to ditch the losing social issues and focus on the stuff that matters most before the left gains complete control and kills economic conservatism as well.

Impossible. The social issues are the cause of the spending.
And economic conservatism is long, long gone. When was the last balanced budget?

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Re: Abuses and Usurpations
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2018, 06:26:40 am »
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Re: Abuses and Usurpations
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2018, 01:46:34 pm »
Well, I did say I never saw the show.  So his character Nagin is meant to show the most vile creatures wear nice people skins?

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Or nice looking skins, lol.

Actually I think the point of Negan is to prove that TV writers can manipulate the viewers any way they want.  After two seasons of this guy, they’re trying to make him likeable. 

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« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2018, 01:49:06 pm »
He's actually an interesting character. Before the zombie apocalypse he was just a useless drunk that had nothing to offer society. His set of skills had no place in that world. Chaos and the rule of the jungle gave him the space he needed to really take advantage of his strengths. He dominates people with fear and brutality.

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Was he a drunk?  I missed that.

I love how he gets so outraged about rape, saying he doesn’t tolerate it.  Meanwhile he has women he forces to be his “wives” so he can take his pick for the night.

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Re: Abuses and Usurpations
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2018, 02:00:23 pm »
Was he a drunk?  I missed that.

Yeah, at one point Rick realizes that he knew him before the zombie outbreak. He said he used to be the town drunk and recalled having to arrest him on more than one occasion.

I love how he gets so outraged about rape, saying he doesn’t tolerate it.  Meanwhile he has women he forces to be his “wives” so he can take his pick for the night.

There's definitely more than a little bit of cognitive dissonance. That's probably not too uncommon for violent psychopaths.
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Re: Abuses and Usurpations
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2018, 03:38:22 pm »
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Or nice looking skins, lol.

Actually I think the point of Negan is to prove that TV writers can manipulate the viewers any way they want.  After two seasons of this guy, they’re trying to make him likeable.

American Lit reference:  Edgar Alan Poe style (See "Telltale Heart").
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Re: Abuses and Usurpations
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2018, 07:55:35 pm »
Yeah, at one point Rick realizes that he knew him before the zombie outbreak. He said he used to be the town drunk and recalled having to arrest him on more than one occasion.

There's definitely more than a little bit of cognitive dissonance. That's probably not too uncommon for violent psychopaths.

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Oh, I remember that quote now.  I'm pretty sure Rick wasn't speaking literally, though.  I think he was tearing down Negan's ego, letting him know he wasn't anything special or powerful, but just a run of the mill troublesome piece of crap. 

Yeah, that's too true about the cognitive dissonance and Negan's psychological state.  AMC is going to do some character backstories--would be interesting to see Negan's pre-ZA story.

If we want to continue, there's a Walking Dead thread.

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« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2018, 07:56:32 pm »
American Lit reference:  Edgar Alan Poe style (See "Telltale Heart").

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Which proves I haven't read much Poe.

Btw, CL, can you tell me what Bookface is? 

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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2018, 08:38:58 pm »
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Which proves I haven't read much Poe.

Btw, CL, can you tell me what Bookface is?

What I call "Facebook."  I detest them (although I still post nonsense there), and my fingers are programmed likewise.   :laugh:

The Poe reference was a short story where the protagonist is portrayed though very sympathetic prose, as he plots, then executes the murder of an old man in the man's own room.  Afterwards he was haunted by an audio hallucination of a beating heart, which drove him to confessing his crime. 

"Could have been anybody doing this, right?"
  is the apparent takeaway, or so the Lit prof told us.  :shrug:  I read quite a bit of Poe on my own before it ever came up in a class.  He wasn't just Macabre genre.
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