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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2018, 01:16:56 am »

That's a perpetual problem. Lefties have the Santa Claus Factor while others have to somehow sell freedom. The lefties promise goodies from magic money while others have to explain how freedom begets more goodies with real money.

And conservatives have a natural disdain for Government, so they don't even want to get involved.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2018, 01:23:26 am »
Conservatives?  You're blaming conservatives for this?

It's a combination of a leftist mainstream media and academia together with a fractured girly man GOP that had no interest in ruling as a majority.
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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2018, 01:28:20 am »
It's a combination of a leftist mainstream media and academia together with a fractured girly man GOP that had no interest in ruling as a majority.

And conservatives "leaders" with a pen and a microphone who refuse to "taint" conservatism with reality and join a political fight by refusing to participating in a political strategy that moves the needle in the right direction.

They're self-ostracizing --- and wondering how the hell support for conservatism could be dropping.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2018, 01:29:05 am »
It's a combination of a leftist mainstream media and academia together with a fractured girly man GOP that had no interest in ruling as a majority.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2018, 01:31:01 am »

And right on cue...

Scalise on Needing to Do 'a Lot Better' at Articulating Conservatism: 'We're Going to Get There'

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Bridget Johnson
Nov. 14, 2018

WASHINGTON -- House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) said he expects "it's going to be very difficult" to "build on the growth we're seeing in our economy" with a new Democratic majority in the 116th Congress.

"America lost its competitive edge and everybody acknowledged that. It wasn't a partisan issue. And so when we made our country competitive again, we're seeing the benefits of it by millions of new jobs being created for families who want to get in the work force," he told Fox Business on Tuesday.

More... https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/scalise-on-needing-to-do-a-lot-better-at-articulating-conservatism-were-going-to-get-there/

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2018, 01:31:43 am »
And conservatives have a natural disdain for Government, so they don't even want to get involved.

I disagree.  "We the People" are the government .... the government should be working for us and us NOT working for them!!



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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2018, 01:35:37 am »
I disagree.  "We the People" are the government .... the government should be working for us and us NOT working for them!!
 

But good conservative politicians don't just fall from the sky, they have to want the job, and apparently not nearly enough of them do.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2018, 01:45:55 am »
Conservatives?  You're blaming conservatives for this?

Of course she is.  God forbid the blame get put where it belongs.
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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2018, 01:47:54 am »
Of course she is.  God forbid the blame get put where it belongs.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2018, 01:49:27 am »
Pointing fingers is a waste of energy. That energy should be spent figuring out how to win more elections.
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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2018, 01:52:21 am »
Duly noted.
Apparently it's all our fault for being too conservative.
That's why there are fewer conservatives and why the FSA* is growing. The new mantra is "It's okay when our guy does it", and principle is cast to the wind.

...and it doesn't have anything to do with yet another generation of Marxist indoctrinated, whiny people who don't have a clue how good they have it, who blame everyone else for their self-imposed problems, and who look to the nanny state to coddle them from cradle to grave at others' expense.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2018, 01:53:13 am »
But good conservative politicians don't just fall from the sky, they have to want the job, and apparently not nearly enough of them do.

Very true.  Unfortunately, we FAILED to hold our senators and representatives responsible and accountable a long, long time ago and consequently we are paying the price...BIGLY ....

We have a corrupt DOJ
Corrupt FBI
Corrupt Election
Corrupt Politicians
Corrupt Judges

...and many in society who remain absolutely clueless ...

IMHO (though it's probably a little too late) the GOP should have demanded that our educational system return to teaching U.S. Government, U.S. History and Constitutional Law; instead we have allowed the liberal educational system to change the mindset of our youth by  brainwashing them to embrace a corrupt society.
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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2018, 02:00:00 am »
Pointing fingers is a waste of energy. That energy should be spent figuring out how to win more elections.

It's too late for that.  The shipped sailed awhile ago.  The integrity of our elections has been compromised as we are witnessing right now by the recounts and continuous flow of ballots after the election is over.  Secondly, DACCA is still alive and well and when the additional votes by illegals either being granted amnesty or asylum outnumbers the GOP, it will be mathematically impossible for them to get elected.  That's been the whole push behind the DEMS wanting amnesty.  That's the push right now for the mobs of caravans knocking at our door (funded by the left).
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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2018, 02:04:04 am »
I agree:

#1  How??

#2  Who will lead?

#3  Where will the $$ come from?

Not trying to be difficult, just pointing out the obvious reality.

It has been my past experience that it is very difficult to get even a small group of people to get together for a cause, let alone a large mass of people.  How do you energize a group (conservatives/GOP) who for the most part are complacent, working, in denial and/or apathetic??

Meanwhile, the leftists are years ahead of the game as far as organization, money and exciting masses for the cause; namely rejecting anything Trump/GOP/conservative.

Case in point; I had the Tea Party patriots call me yesterday afternoon, looking for $250.  I told them my $$ went to support candidates in the mid terms.  They then asked for $100.00.  Not a mention of meetings, rallies, groups to join, etc., etc.,...they just wanted $$.  Money to beat the left.  Again, no mention of how, who, what, where or when.

I get the same e-mails, texts and phone calls from the NRSC.  All they want is $$.

IMHO there is no plan to mobilize. The only plan I see is to fleece the GOP and conservative voting base.  This isn't working.  It hasn't worked in the past and it sure as heck isn't working now!!!

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2018, 02:07:12 am »
Of course she is.  God forbid the blame get put where it belongs.

IMHO, she just did.   happy77

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2018, 02:10:46 am »
There is a way to connect freedom to actual real life examples. The GOP could be heading into the Ghetto and telling it's inhabitants that the Police are government. They hate the police. Tell them that limited govt' means getting the Fuzz off their backs.

Republicans have always sucked at communicating.  At this point they’d do better to put the new & improved Lindsey Graham on the trail and let him rip.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2018, 02:12:06 am »
What's your policy on Pantyhose? I'm trying to decide who is right in this argument.

I’m right, but you’re still stuck in the seventies.  There’s still hope you’ll catch up.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2018, 02:14:36 am »
And right on cue...

Scalise on Needing to Do 'a Lot Better' at Articulating Conservatism: 'We're Going to Get There'

PJ Media
Bridget Johnson
Nov. 14, 2018

WASHINGTON -- House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) said he expects "it's going to be very difficult" to "build on the growth we're seeing in our economy" with a new Democratic majority in the 116th Congress.

"America lost its competitive edge and everybody acknowledged that. It wasn't a partisan issue. And so when we made our country competitive again, we're seeing the benefits of it by millions of new jobs being created for families who want to get in the work force," he told Fox Business on Tuesday.

More... https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/scalise-on-needing-to-do-a-lot-better-at-articulating-conservatism-were-going-to-get-there/

Oh, for God’s sake.  “Going to get there.”  If you have to take a college course to do it, just stop.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2018, 02:22:01 am »
Frank Cannon observed:
"Rats on the other hand are very clear on issues that effect people personally. Free shit for everyone. Free healthcare. Free education. Free base income. Are Conservatives going to bother ever coming up with a plan to combat this?"

The problem is that... you can't.
Faced with hard truths v. attractive fantasies, what's gonna win most of the time?

Frank continued:
"That right there is why there are a shrinking number of "Conservative" areas. They don't offer anything anyone wants to care about."

The problem there is the young are being groomed in such a way that they aren't going to care about such things, or even to be hostile towards "traditional/conservative" ideas and notions. Blame that on Gramsci, The Frankfurt School, Critical Theory, etc.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2018, 02:24:47 am »
What's your policy on Pantyhose? I'm trying to decide who is right in this argument.

Pantyhose are uncomfortable, horrendous and downright unhealthy.  There is an alternative, thigh highs!  Much more comfortable ... and ... they are much, much easier to get on and off.   Best alternative ... live in a warm climate, keep your legs tanned, avoiding the necessity to ever have to wear thigh high or pantyhose again.





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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2018, 02:34:11 am »
Conservatives?  You're blaming conservatives for this?

Of course. It's always Conservatives' fault, no matter what.
I learned that a helluva long time ago.
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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2018, 02:36:55 am »
There simply is no other choice, it has to be Trump.

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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2018, 02:41:28 am »
Pantyhose are uncomfortable, horrendous and downright unhealthy.  There is an alternative, thigh highs!  Much more comfortable ... and ... they are much, much easier to get on and off.   Best alternative ... live in a warm climate, keep your legs tanned, avoiding the necessity to ever have to wear thigh high or pantyhose again.



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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2018, 02:46:25 am »
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Re: Conservative-Leaning States Drop From 44 to 39
« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2018, 02:50:52 am »
Oh, for God’s sake.  “Going to get there.”  If you have to take a college course to do it, just stop.


Well, what should they say? I doubt that Scalise has a plan but who does?