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Been said before, nothing new....Supreme Court is set to have a conservative majority for maybe decades, oh, I definitely agree, we don't know how these judges will vote.   Nothing succeeds like success.

Tax me Enough Already has what to do with preachers??? That's just lame.

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Not wanting to do undue harm to others. Wanting to help people that need help.

Not long ago a modern civilized country decided putting certain people's genetic line into ovens was a good idea for the greater good. The greater good has been the bases of numerous genocide events throughout history.

Without a moral anchor the "greater good" is deadly.

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Conservatism -- i.e., keeping the status quo -- is, by its very definition, a compromise between a move to the left and a move to the right.  But what we've seen is a perversion of the playing field.  The struggle is now portrayed as "conservative vs. liberal", which places the middle ground to the left of center. 

Conservatives have compromised away to the left for decades, else we'd be right where we used to be, with a strong Constitution respected and upheld, with personal liberties also respected.  We wouldn't have a huge behemoth of a federal government, and spending would be under control.

The fact that conservatism is no longer seen as the centrist position highlights distortion and annexation by the Left.


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This is going to result in howls of outrage,but the blame for this lies solely at the feet of the religious right. They are about as open to compromise as their Muslim counterparts.
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@Suppressed

This is going to result in howls of outrage,but the blame for this lies solely at the feet of the religious right. They are about as open to compromise as their Muslim counterparts.

Actually, most of us "conservatives" are classical liberals as in individual liberty through smaller government. The left has bastardized the terms "liberal" and "conservative". "Liberals" really leftests demand the exact opposite of liberty these days. They demand more government, more taxation, more laws, more adherence to their way or else.

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Compromise is how we got here. The line should have been drawn a long time ago, and that failure is haunting us now.

@Smokin Joe

Not true. A compromise is when you give up something and in return you get something. The alleged Republicans have been doing nothing but giving since the 60's,and getting nothing in return. The reason for this is the Religious Right/Moral Majority disciples insist on establishing their particular beliefs in our nations laws.

As a result of this a lot of citizens who would normally vote Republican vote Dim instead because the Dims don't try to control their personal lives. Especially when it comes to sex.

The Republicans that are devoutly religious are up front about this whole "deys jist too many peeples having too much fun out dere,and Gawd doesn't like it so we has to pass laws to punish these sinners!" This scares away a lot of sane people.

The Dims,on the other hand,don't hesitate an eye blink to lie about their positions. They know it will get them into uncontested power one day,and on that day they WILL smack the rowdies into control via labor camps or executions. The typical Dim voter really and truly does believe the Dims promote individual freedoms,and don't have a freaking clue what the monster they support will unleash once they gain the power. The Dim leadership will make Pat Robertson look like Caligula by comparison.

Make no mistake about it,the people who back the DNC want nothing less than a Global Police State ran by and for the benefit of themselves.
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Did conservatives compromise or were they simply defeated on certain issues? I've said all I can say about my opinion on this. I think if people aren't willing to let go of some of the social stuff and focus on economics and immigration the left will win it all within the next couple of decades.

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Not wanting to do undue harm to others. Wanting to help people that need help.

You just described a christian value.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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 John Adams as we've heard before, said the Constitution is for a moral and religious people. 



@TomSea

Sounds like you are one tiny step away from saying the US Constitution does not protect people who are not religious.

Gee,I wonder why people would take statements like that to mean they should register and vote Dim?
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@Smokin Joe

Not true. A compromise is when you give up something and in return you get something. The alleged Republicans have been doing nothing but giving since the 60's,and getting nothing in return. The reason for this is the Religious Right/Moral Majority disciples insist on establishing their particular beliefs in our nations laws.

As a result of this a lot of citizens who would normally vote Republican vote Dim instead because the Dims don't try to control their personal lives. Especially when it comes to sex.

The Republicans that are devoutly religious are up front about this whole "deys jist too many peeples having too much fun out dere,and Gawd doesn't like it so we has to pass laws to punish these sinners!" This scares away a lot of sane people.

The Dims,on the other hand,don't hesitate an eye blink to lie about their positions. They know it will get them into uncontested power one day,and on that day they WILL smack the rowdies into control via labor camps or executions. The typical Dim voter really and truly does believe the Dims promote individual freedoms,and don't have a freaking clue what the monster they support will unleash once they gain the power. The Dim leadership will make Pat Robertson look like Caligula by comparison.

Make no mistake about it,the people who back the DNC want nothing less than a Global Police State ran by and for the benefit of themselves.

Republicans have been doing what Dexter suggests for at least the last two decades and look what it's gotten us.

A country that is less civil...less moral and more totalitarian...all because the "smart people" thought the best way to get people to like the GOP and vote for them was to sound like Dem lite on certain issues...like social issues and religion.

And while the turn away from the values that formed and shape this country excites religious bigots like yourself dexter and jazzy...for the rest of us out here suffering under an increasingly more "progressive" country and all that entails...all it does is play into the hands of the left and allows them to more easily turn this country into one giant blue Utopian disaster.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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All IS lost if the GOP continues to play their game instead of coming up with their own game plan.  They tried softening their position on many social issues to appease the DEMS, that got them no where and lost elections.  Had the party united and ALL promoted Republican ideals and conservatism and stood by their party, we wouldn't be in this mess.  It seems you are suggesting that the GOP needs to lean more to the left.  I couldn't disagree more. 

 

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Organized religion is NOT a Republican idea. It is a religious practice favored by SOME people who happen to vote Republican. Our Republican was established to guarantee freedom of religion,as well as freedom FROM religion. The Founding Fathers were all born and grew up in societies where the Catholic Church was a branch of government,and unanswerable to all  at one time. They will understood the dangers of a religious police state.
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Many RINO's refused to join in on the Trump bandwagon and many retired their positions from the House, including their leader Lyin' Ryan; the results to me were not unexpected.


@libertybele

These Bible Thumpers are the primary members of the Never Trump Movement. They/you see him as an unrepentant sinner,and nothing he accomplishes while president will ever change your opinions of him.

It just occurred to me that one reason you hate him so much as you see his successes as a threat to the political power of the Religious Right.
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@libertybele

Organized religion is NOT a Republican idea. It is a religious practice favored by SOME people who happen to vote Republican. Our Republican was established to guarantee freedom of religion,as well as freedom FROM religion. The Founding Fathers were all born and grew up in societies where the Catholic Church was a branch of government,and unanswerable to all  at one time. They will understood the dangers of a religious police state.

Oh bullshit. Look at the founding of Maryland. That'll shut you up.



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Like who?

The kill your baby set? The I wanna get high set?

People who aren't happy with the way the mean old laws just won't let them be totally irresponsible?

Like, Liberals?


They aren't going to vote GOP anyway, if they want a liberal in office, they can just vote for the real thing.

The GOP has been running from the Right and sucking up to the former Leftists they called the "Middle".

No one is saying you have to go to church on Sunday, can't drink, and as I pointed out earlier, at least some of the folks who did not vote for the GOP Senate Candidate in ND this go-round still voted against legalized recreational pot. (still not a good idea, imho).
Blue Laws (generally a southern Democrat thing) are pretty much gone, and the only real reason the Homolobby pushed for "marriage" was so they could get insurance on each other's plans--incidentally why the preexisting condition clauses were in Obamacare--so they'd have to be covered. (1.3 million HIV/AIDS infected and counting, and guess who is the prime high risk group).
So just what "Christian morality" is the GOP 'treying to shove down anyone's throat'?

There is no opt out on a whole slew of progressive programs from putting condoms on pickles to lectures on S&M for grade schoolers, but you better not mention Jesus.

Give me a chance to vote to turn those tables and I sure will, but no one is advocating that--instead the GOP is rushing to embrace the perversion du jour and leave its traditional base behind, again, citing that they will vote GOP because they have no place else to go. (false dichotomy, as the GOP is discovering). No one is under any obligation to vote for that which they don't like, and the GOP is finding that out--from people on the Right.

If you do the math, there is nothing for the GOP to gain by discarding its traditional base in favor of a group of voters who, if they want a Liberal Socialist Government, can always vote Democrat and have the real thing.

@Smokin Joe

Joe,nothing personal,but just about every word in your rant above describes perfectly why it is so hard for Republicans to win. The left wants a communist police state,and the right as defined by you want a religious police state.

Either way you end up with a police state,and very few people want that.

The Dims are just better at lying about it. They always seem to be advocating more freedoms and less government control,and in YOUR police state it's always about LESS freedoms and and MORE government control.
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Oh bullshit. Look at the founding of Maryland. That'll shut you up.

@roamer_1

So,when are you going to move to the northeast and start wearing black and white and churning your own butter?

Even THOSE cretins you are talking about came here to ENJOY RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. They didn't like the religious police states where they were born,so they came her to create their own little mini-version.
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@roamer_1

So,when are you going to move to the northeast and start wearing black and white and churning your own butter?

Even THOSE cretins you are talking about came here to ENJOY RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. They didn't like the religious police states where they were born,so they came her to create their own little mini-version.

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Your objections aside, the various states DID have religious tests, and DID form 'state religions'.... in the presence and with the acceptance of the Founding Fathers. That is the precedent.

It is the overweening nanny state a century and a half later that struck down those states and insisted upon a one-size-fits-all secularism -- Your view of the founding is warped by your vendetta.

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And I already DO churn my own butter, by the way.

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Your objections aside, the various states DID have religious tests, and DID form 'state religions'.... in the presence and with the acceptance of the Founding Fathers. That is the precedent.



@roamer_1

Ok,if that is true PLEASE splain to us all why the US Constitution forbids the establishment of a state religion.

What you are doing is cherry picking and mentioning states that existed as virtual countries before the various states were united into the US.

A partial lie is still a lie.
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@roamer_1

Ok,if that is true PLEASE splain to us all why the US Constitution forbids the establishment of a state religion.

What you are doing is cherry picking and mentioning states that existed as virtual countries before the various states were united into the US.

A partial lie is still a lie.

Not at all @sneakypete
The plain truth of the matter is that your cherry-picking of Jefferson and Franklin is just that - Cherry-picking.

Blue laws were in place all the way up into the 60's. The various states DID have religious autonomy, and did have religious tests UNTIL THEN.

The truth of it is that Jefferson's separation did not go clean to the ground - It was specific to the federal government, and not imposed upon the states - And anyone honestly looking at the history will see the truth of it.

And that is the beauty of the Federalist system. If you ain't a Catlick, don't move to Maryland. Go somewhere else.

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Ok,if that is true PLEASE splain to us all why the US Constitution forbids the establishment of a state religion.

So that we wouldn't have another Church of England situation where the head of state is also the head of the church.

That is what the Framers meant by "Congress shall establish no law".


It wasn't put in there to prevent a natavity scene on the front lawn of city hall or a prayer before a football game.

Its quite the opposite...it's there to protect those things...not prevent them.

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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So that we wouldn't have another Church of England situation where the head of state is also the head of the church.

That is what the Framers meant by "Congress shall establish no law".


It wasn't put in there to prevent a natavity scene on the front lawn of city hall or a prayer before a football game.

Its quite the opposite...it's there to protect those things...not prevent them.



It is broader than just preventing the combination of head of state and head of a particular church.

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Not at all @sneakypete
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Blue laws were in place all the way up into the 60's. The various states DID have religious autonomy, and did have religious tests UNTIL THEN.

@roamer_1

And they were UN-Constitutional. Your excuse is like saying stealing or murder isn't illegal if you don't get charged with it.

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The truth of it is that Jefferson's separation did not go clean to the ground - It was specific to the federal government, and not imposed upon the states - And anyone honestly looking at the history will see the truth of it.

Yeah,and to HELL with all that "freedom stuff",huh? We should all just allow your Ayatollah to make the rules for all of us to live by,right?


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So that we wouldn't have another Church of England situation where the head of state is also the head of the church.


It wasn't put in there to prevent a natavity scene on the front lawn of city hall or a prayer before a football game.

Its quite the opposite...it's there to protect those things...not prevent them.

@txradioguy

On that,I am in 100 percent agreement with you. The government has no right to dictate religion or to deny anyone their religious rights as long as they don't involve committing crimes,like child rape,murder,etc,etc,etc.
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It is broader than just preventing the combination of head of state and head of a particular church.

@Oceander

EXACTLY! It is about protecting people FROM religion also.
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And they were UN-Constitutional. Your excuse is like saying stealing or murder isn't illegal if you don't get charged with it.


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No, they were rendered 'unconstitutional' by fiat, after hundreds of years. In fact, the precedent denies the verdict. There is no basis for the decision EXCEPT a reinterpretation. The very same 'penumbras' that Conservatives always abhor.

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Yeah,and to HELL with all that "freedom stuff",huh? We should all just allow your Ayatollah to make the rules for all of us to live by,right?

We are not free. We have (had) liberty.
Liberty has responsibilities.
Freedom has consequences.

We are currently experiencing those consequences.