Progressives unseated all 59 Republican judges up for re-election in Houston in the midterms

[LegalAmerican]

...NOT ABOUT RELIGION.  ABOUT VOTER FRAUD...BIG TIME AS ALWAYS.  Religion is used to defect from the real issue.

VOTER FRAUD!    THAT'S IT. 

[libertybele]

..........clap, clap, clap.   RIGHT ON. 

  "We either conquer it or it conquers us and we continue to lose this country."=LIBERTYBELE

Conquering doesn't necessarily equate to violence as you are advocating.  I'm still hopeful somehow for a peaceful resolution.  I certainly don't have the answers.

[libertybele]

...NOT ABOUT RELIGION.  ABOUT VOTER FRAUD...BIG TIME AS ALWAYS.  Religion is used to defect from the real issue.

VOTER FRAUD!    THAT'S IT.

Our politicians on the right are again FAILING to hold those on the left accountable and they are going unchecked.

[Silver Pines]

I advocate violence. That is the only recourse.  We are under siege by COMMUNISTS.  This  is what they do to get in power. ViOLENCE. SETH RICH.  NEW BLACK PANTHERS..intimidating people again, in Georgia.  I loathe the  P.C. term, "we are better than that", as it binds our hands and we are destroyed by P.C.ed ideas, to our actual death.  The LEFT..like all crooks, do not abide by our values.  We are shooting ourselves in the foot. "MAKE A SOWARD OUT OF YOUR PLOWS."
WE ARE NOT TO SIT AROUND AND ALLOW THE ENEMY TO SUCCEED.  The constitution was created by basic bible principles. Just the facts, don't care to argue that, much proof.    DO WE SAVE THE CONSTITUTION AND FIGHT FOR IT OR NOT?  Even Tom Jefferson said, from time to time, there has to be bloodshed to refresh the ranks.  All those men who died before us, fighting for the constitution and our land, was for NOTHING?   

@LegalAmerican
 
Are you going to fight? 

[the_doc]

I advocate violence. That is the only recourse.  We are under siege by COMMUNISTS.  This  is what they do to get in power. ViOLENCE. SETH RICH.  NEW BLACK PANTHERS..intimidating people again, in Georgia.  I loathe the  P.C. term, "we are better than that", as it binds our hands and we are destroyed by P.C.ed ideas, to our actual death.  The LEFT..like all crooks, do not abide by our values.  We are shooting ourselves in the foot. "MAKE A SOWARD OUT OF YOUR PLOWS."
WE ARE NOT TO SIT AROUND AND ALLOW THE ENEMY TO SUCCEED.  The constitution was created by basic bible principles. Just the facts, don't care to argue that, much proof.    DO WE SAVE THE CONSTITUTION AND FIGHT FOR IT OR NOT?  Even Tom Jefferson said, from time to time, there has to be bloodshed to refresh the ranks.  All those men who died before us, fighting for the constitution and our land, was for NOTHING?   

I think things are almost as serious as you are suggesting, but I think our military will handle it if it comes to large-scale violence originating on the Left when they try to retaliate against Trump.  The military would tell patriotic civilians to hunker down and try to stay out of such a mess.   

[Smokin Joe]

I think things are almost as serious as you are suggesting, but I think our military will handle it if it comes to large-scale violence originating on the Left when they try to retaliate against Trump.  The military would tell patriotic civilians to hunker down and try to stay out of such a mess.

If it is time to 'vote from the rooftops', we will know. Do stay off the streets, though, and be extra careful to avoid 'blue on blue'.

[libertybele]

...NOT ABOUT RELIGION.  ABOUT VOTER FRAUD...BIG TIME AS ALWAYS.  Religion is used to defect from the real issue.

VOTER FRAUD!    THAT'S IT.

Perhaps one solution to help ensure that voter fraud doesn't occur is to have EACH precinct under video surveillance and ALL ballot counting done under video surveillance as well as the building and parking lots, with security guards and a member from each party overseeing the process.

Secondly, there should be a FEDERAL law, that any Supervisor of Elections who does not comply with election rules, WILL face mandatory firing and possible jail  time and a mandatory minimum fine of $100,000.00 and up to $250,000.00.

[the_doc]

If it is time to 'vote from the rooftops', we will know. Do stay off the streets, though, and be extra careful to avoid 'blue on blue'.

Perzackly. 

[libertybele]

Perzackly.

All this talk of fighting?  Really?  I like my idea of video surveillance in each precinct with security guards and members from each party overseeing our elections.  Then we would have a chance at the ballot box and a chance to restore this Republic.  We need to try to save this Republic peacefully.  Violence and bloodshed??  That's not what I want to see for my children or grandchildren.

[Dexter]

I'm done with fighting in general, and I certainly won't fight Americans. Reasonable people will abandon you if you start turning towards violence.

[libertybele]

If it is time to 'vote from the rooftops', we will know. Do stay off the streets, though, and be extra careful to avoid 'blue on blue'.

Pleading ignorance here; blue on blue?

[Smokin Joe]

All this talk of fighting?  Really?  I like my idea of video surveillance in each precinct with security guards and members from each party overseeing our elections.  Then we would have a chance at the ballot box and a chance to restore this Republic.  We need to try to save this Republic peacefully.  Violence and bloodshed??  That's not what I want to see for my children or grandchildren.

I, too have long advocated a peaceful solution, a return to Constitutional government, and an end to mollycoddling the ranting Leftists who show their disdain for the democratic processes of this Republic by 'winning' by any means, fair or foul, including taking to the streets to intimidate and impose their presence on a peaceful population. We have dealt with their tantrums and the destructive results off and on since the '60s.

I agree that violence is a last, and likely strictly defensive resort. It is not something I want to see for my children, grand children, or great-grandchildren, for that matter. But the Neville Chamberlain method of winning hearts and minds has predictable results, and sooner or later, either we make a peaceful return to peaceful discourse, or there will be a lack of civility which will require undesirable action to resolve.

I am definitely not advocating overthrowing the legitimate aspects of a duly elected government, nor advocating any action against the United States or any other governmental authority acting within its Constitutional and lawful bounds. It is the mobs of violent 'protestors' who are my concern. A vote 'from the rooftop' is a nay vote: the other three boxes are eminently preferable to the last one.

However, if it comes down to defending my home and my neighborhood from the roving mobs we have seen in cities in this nation of late, any mob employing destruction in my area of operations will be stopped, with whatever force is necessary and justifiable (as in the rules established by statute for the use thereof), either by the authorities, or, in extremis by those of us who have a stake in the area. This isn't Fergusson, it isn't Baltimore, and we aren't having that sh*t around here.

If you won't fight to defend civil order, those who are willing to do so to disrupt it will prevail.

[Smokin Joe]

Pleading ignorance here; blue on blue?

Don't engage friendlies.

[libertybele]

I'm done with fighting in general, and I certainly won't fight Americans. Reasonable people will abandon you if you start turning towards violence.

??? Americans are already fighting Americans and have been; perhaps not in the violent sense, but there is still fighting going on.

I would like nothing more than to see a peaceful resolution, but remember it takes both sides wanting a peaceful resolution in order for things to remain civil and calm.  Clinton has already opened her loud trap proclaiming that the left cannot be civil unless they are in control.  She is stirring the pot...she wants civil unrest...as does Soros ...as does the far left.  It gives them a chance at completely taking over.  Hopefully, the right will be able to find a peaceful resolution instead of handing them what they want.

[Dexter]

??? Americans are already fighting Americans and have been; perhaps not in the violent sense, but there is still fighting going on.

I would like nothing more than to see a peaceful resolution, but remember it takes both sides wanting a peaceful resolution in order for things to remain civil and calm.  Clinton has already opened her loud trap proclaiming that the left cannot be civil unless they are in control.  She is stirring the pot...she wants civil unrest...as does Soros ...as does the far left.  It gives them a chance at completely taking over.  Hopefully, the right will be able to find a peaceful resolution instead of handing them what they want.

Both sides are stoking fires that lead to violence. That's the end result of an us vs them mentality. This is what happens when two sides refuse to compromise.

[Smokin Joe]

Both sides are stoking fires that lead to violence. That's the end result of an us vs them mentality. This is what happens when two sides refuse to compromise.

Compromise is how we got here. The line should have been drawn a long time ago, and that failure is haunting us now.

[Dexter]

Compromise is how we got here. The line should have been drawn a long time ago, and that failure is haunting us now.

If you think either side has truly been open to compromise, well, we might be viewing different timelines. Either way I stick to what I said. Polarized us vs them thinking is what leads to bloodshed.

[the_doc]

All this talk of fighting?  Really?  I like my idea of video surveillance in each precinct with security guards and members from each party overseeing our elections.  Then we would have a chance at the ballot box and a chance to restore this Republic.  We need to try to save this Republic peacefully.  Violence and bloodshed??  That's not what I want to see for my children or grandchildren.

I was not talking about the elections, my TBR friend.  It is true that the election frauds are at the center of the whole mess at this time, and it must be stopped at all costs, because voting fraud is a key component of an existential threat against the USA.  But whatever we do about the election fraud, the violence that I mentioned will not be initiated by Trump.  You have overlooked the fact that I indicated that any violence will be initiated by the Leftists.  I predict that they will ramp up their violent rhetoric into real violence against us for even daring to stop their Radical Juggernaut.

In 2016, the Global Socialists believed they would be moving from their middle game (Obama) to their end game (Hillary).  The Global Socialists' endgame for a totalitarian takeover is always revolutionary violence (ordinarily with foreign assistance in one form or another).

Since the Global Socialists lost the 2016 election, they realize that they have to get Trump out of the White House if they are to salvage their decades-old plans to destroy utterly--and that means as violently as necessary--our American Republic.  Their obvious problem is that Trump has been rapidly dismantling everything the Socialists were setting up for their final offensive against America.  By doing this, Trump is essentially taking them into an endgame that they cannot win. 

Our POTUS will not have to start a shooting war.  But he has to be ready for violence, i.e. ready in the SCOTUS and in the military and in the power centers of the Executive Bureaucracy.  And the reason why he has to be ready for violence is because the Socialists are likely to bring violence into play in a last-ditch effort to salvage their decades-old plan to destroy our Republic.  They are dead serious and determined to defeat America--because we are the single biggest obstacle to their Global Socialist dream. 

(I actually believe that many if not most of the leading Socialists are scared out of their gourds--which would explain why they have started pulling out all stops to destroy Trump.  They probably remember what HRC reportedly said when she discovered on Election Night in 2016 that she was likely going to lose to Trump:  "If that blankety-blank wins, we will all hang by nooses!" 

So, yeah, I think we are in the early stage of another American Revolution--this time a POTUS-led revolution against a Shadow Government, against an extraordinarily dangerous Deep State that had slowly but surely and yet almost completely taken over our Congress and our Executive Branch and most of our Federal Court System.  If we don't win this Trump-led revolution against the Deep State, then I'm afraid that you can kiss your children's future happiness in liberty goodbye.)

[sneakypete]

 

[mystery-ak]

I advocate violence. That is the only recourse.  We are under siege by COMMUNISTS.  This  is what they do to get in power. ViOLENCE. SETH RICH.  NEW BLACK PANTHERS..intimidating people again, in Georgia.  I loathe the  P.C. term, "we are better than that", as it binds our hands and we are destroyed by P.C.ed ideas, to our actual death.  The LEFT..like all crooks, do not abide by our values.  We are shooting ourselves in the foot. "MAKE A SOWARD OUT OF YOUR PLOWS."
WE ARE NOT TO SIT AROUND AND ALLOW THE ENEMY TO SUCCEED.  The constitution was created by basic bible principles. Just the facts, don't care to argue that, much proof.    DO WE SAVE THE CONSTITUTION AND FIGHT FOR IT OR NOT?  Even Tom Jefferson said, from time to time, there has to be bloodshed to refresh the ranks.  All those men who died before us, fighting for the constitution and our land, was for NOTHING?   

You do not advocate violence here of any kind....understand!

[Suppressed]

If you think either side has truly been open to compromise, well, we might be viewing different timelines. Either way I stick to what I said. Polarized us vs them thinking is what leads to bloodshed.

Conservatism -- i.e., keeping the status quo -- is, by its very definition, a compromise between a move to the left and a move to the right.  But what we've seen is a perversion of the playing field.  The struggle is now portrayed as "conservative vs. liberal", which places the middle ground to the left of center. 

Conservatives have compromised away to the left for decades, else we'd be right where we used to be, with a strong Constitution respected and upheld, with personal liberties also respected.  We wouldn't have a huge behemoth of a federal government, and spending would be under control.

The fact that conservatism is no longer seen as the centrist position highlights distortion and annexation by the Left.

[libertybele]

Compromise is how we got here. The line should have been drawn a long time ago, and that failure is haunting us now.

 

[Dexter]

Conservatism -- i.e., keeping the status quo -- is, by its very definition, a compromise between a move to the left and a move to the right.  But what we've seen is a perversion of the playing field.  The struggle is now portrayed as "conservative vs. liberal", which places the middle ground to the left of center. 

Conservatives have compromised away to the left for decades, else we'd be right where we used to be, with a strong Constitution respected and upheld, with personal liberties also respected.  We wouldn't have a huge behemoth of a federal government, and spending would be under control.

The fact that conservatism is no longer seen as the centrist position highlights distortion and annexation by the Left.

Did conservatives compromise or were they simply defeated on certain issues? I've said all I can say about my opinion on this. I think if people aren't willing to let go of some of the social stuff and focus on economics and immigration the left will win it all within the next couple of decades.

[TomSea]

@Jazzhead

i am already quite familiar with your positions, which I disagree with.
You are correct in your first sentence, that you cannot speak for @Dexter, but, lo and behold, it sure didn't stop you from trying.

"Coercive conservatism, on the other hand,  is different only in emphasis and degree from the coercive collectivism of the typical leftist", which is exactly what you and Dexter are advocating, by trying to silence debate which which you are uncomfortable with, and that is leftist.

 

In truth, Reagan, Trump, Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, clearly Lindsay Graham, maybe Nikki Haley too, they do not cower from these social issues, I admit, same-sex marriages is a different kettle of fish than abortion but what these folks talk about is secular humanism, we might as well be Europe then, or at least, parts of Europe. It's a losing proposition.

[libertybele]

I was not talking about the elections, my TBR friend.  It is true that the election frauds are at the center of the whole mess at this time, and it must be stopped at all costs, because voting fraud is a key component of an existential threat against the USA.  But whatever we do about the election fraud, the violence that I mentioned will not be initiated by Trump.  You have overlooked the fact that I indicated that any violence will be initiated by the Leftists.  I predict that they will ramp up their violent rhetoric into real violence against us for even daring to stop their Radical Juggernaut.

In 2016, the Global Socialists believed they would be moving from their middle game (Obama) to their end game (Hillary).  The Global Socialists' endgame for a totalitarian takeover is always revolutionary violence (ordinarily with foreign assistance in one form or another).

Since the Global Socialists lost the 2016 election, they realize that they have to get Trump out of the White House if they are to salvage their decades-old plans to destroy utterly--and that means as violently as necessary--our American Republic.  Their obvious problem is that Trump has been rapidly dismantling everything the Socialists were setting up for their final offensive against America.  By doing this, Trump is essentially taking them into an endgame that they cannot win. 

Our POTUS will not have to start a shooting war.  But he has to be ready for violence, i.e. ready in the SCOTUS and in the military and in the power centers of the Executive Bureaucracy.  And the reason why he has to be ready for violence is because the Socialists are likely to bring violence into play in a last-ditch effort to salvage their decades-old plan to destroy our Republic.  They are dead serious and determined to defeat America--because we are the single biggest obstacle to their Global Socialist dream. 

(I actually believe that many if not most of the leading Socialists are scared out of their gourds--which would explain why they have started pulling out all stops to destroy Trump.  They probably remember what HRC reportedly said when she discovered on Election Night in 2016 that she was likely going to lose to Trump:  "If that blankety-blank wins, we will all hang by nooses!" 

So, yeah, I think we are in the early stage of another American Revolution--this time a POTUS-led revolution against a Shadow Government, against an extraordinarily dangerous Deep State that had slowly but surely and yet almost completely taken over our Congress and our Executive Branch and most of our Federal Court System.  If we don't win this Trump-led revolution against the Deep State, then I'm afraid that you can kiss your children's future happiness in liberty goodbye.)

Very well stated and your points very valid, and I am in agreement with you.  I do have hesitation.  I am not as confident as you are that Trump will be willing to lead a revolution. There are things that he has done that make me continue to question him.  There has always been question in the back of my mind that Trump just may be part of their game? It's a terrible thought, but one that I have been unable to shake and one thought that has been nagging me in the back of my mind since he went after Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, Fiorina, Jeb!, Walker, Carson, Christie, Huckabee, Paul, Perry, and Graham without casting any shots at Hillary until the final debates and even at that, he handled her with kid gloves in comparison. 

I'm not so sure that he has led any revolution against the Deep State.  He could have shut down Sessions, Mueller and Rosenstein long ago and certainly he could have very easily ordered an investigation into Hillary as there has been all kinds of evidence brought forward pertaining to her corruption and collusion yet he has done neither.  Along with that, we still have no wall.  I can't fully blame that on Congress ... Trump has a pen ... there are discretionary funds sitting that he could use.  He was willing to give the DEMS amnesty for DACCA recipients in exchange for ending chain migration. etc., ... somehow that mess went through a revolving door which never to me quite added up. 

On the other hand, I do know that our Republic is in deep trouble; and he is the one person between us losing this country to the leftists/socialist and restoring this country.  He has displayed great patriotism and shown leadership along with doing some really good things for this country.  He is a very intelligent man and seems to be usually one step ahead of their game for the most part.

Certainly, time will tell.